Got my TPI SLP Runners today. VERY unhappy. The port openings aren't even round, there are huge amounts of cast mountains, and on one of the tubes on the inside, it looks like someone had a hole, and JBWELDED the thing closed. And the gaskets fit horrible. See pics.

Just letting you all know about my findings.

 

Another shot of the *Goober.*

 

Cast-Cade Mountains....

 

Quote "Precision Machined for a perfect fit." Okay so maybe it will bolt on, but that's some nasty circlulage.

 

Should I have kept them, there would be some massive "Gasket Matching" eh?

 

Damn, that sucks. I would have figured that they would be in better shape than that, especially since they're brand new.

 

unbelievable.... the USED Accel runners I had looked better.

I guess that just goes to show just how much care really goes into these "quality" pieces. The only thing from SLP that I'll be buying are their 1 3/4" headers (later on when/if the engine makes more power).

Look on the bright side.. you can get your money back, and then consider saving up for an HSR ! Yea... I think it must be a sign

 

Those peices of garbage shouldn't have even made it through QC. Or maybe they don't have a QC department anymore.

 

WOW! That is the WORST set of SLP runners I have ever seen.

The machining on those runner ports SUCK!

 

I don't know WHAT they have there, but I just ported my base, and ground off that lip that the stock ::: cough ::: smooth ::: cough ::: runners have on em... and use the 259.95 for subframes and LCA relocation brackets.


Psh... precision machined my butt.

 

I would guess that their purchasing department has more say over engineering. Wouldn't surpise me if they have changed parts suppliers at some time and gone for a low cost provider. They'll get in return what they provide.

 

Them be sexy!!!

 

Those actually came from SLP? Mine looked nothing like that. Yes, there is a bit of gasket matching, but that's easy. It'd also be very easy to fix the ports...but it looks like there's more wrong with them then just shape and roughness.

 

Those have a nasty case of core shift. I expect the tooling is breaking down and they don't want to replace it. The set I bought 3 years ago were bad but not that bad.

 

Typical SLP Runners, One word: CRAP. If people have to put up with that and gasket match, port, ETC, SLP should sell those for $59.95 instead of $259.95.

 

THOSE WOULD HAVE MADE IT THROUGH THE QC DEP. AT MY MACHINE SHOP....LOL

AND WHAT IS "CORE SHIFT" AND WHAT KINDA "TOOLING" DO THEY USE AT A FOUNDRY??RUNNERS HAVE A CAST FINISH

 

Lol, and what do you think a "cast finish" is? "Core shift" is when the "cores" they use "shift" away from where they are supposed to be. The result is misaligned runners. The "tooling" is the actual casts. They break down and start to produce garbage parts.

 

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those runners looks like crap...

lately ive been finding that SLPs quality has been goin down hill. Me and my friend jus ordered some 1 3/4" headers from them and the flange part was crooked where the headers would bolt up to the head. i thought we get what we pay for mother****ers!!!

 

SLP has really been ignoring the thirdgen cars. Do they realise that these cars are becoming incredibly cheap and people will always want go-fast parts for them?

SLP= Only cares about the money

 

There is no reason to buy anything from SLP. The runners are the only piece that is priced less than the competition and now a days they are total crap, proven. Most of the other parts are just priced to high and equivalents are available from other manufacturers.

Twilightoptics
What year runners do you need? I have a set of 85-88 runners that are sitting on a shelf. I bought them in early 1997 installed them and then my car sat stored from Aug 1998 until 4 months ago when the motor was pulled and the TPI was replaced with a Superram. The runners are nice inside with minimal flash. Make me an offer if interested.

 

SLP makes some VERY crappy parts IMO. They have **** for quality and HITHERE think those runners look good compared to how mine came. HITHERE'm never going to buy anything for SLP again. HITHERE was goignt HITHERE get some headers but for over $200 more than other headers the 1 3/4 aren't worth it at all. You could get something else that would add more power than stepping up from 1 5/8 to 3/4.

Josh

 

darn i hope my slp headers and slp catback dont look like that..

i thought i was buying quality...

i was thinking of buying the slp runners next but i dont know now..

 

My SLP runners didn't mate terribly well with the gaskets, but it was nothing that a die grinder didn't fix. There's a reason they cost 1/2 of what all the others cost. A couple hours with a die grinder gets you runners that flow as well as any other brand at half the price. I guess it just depends on whether you want to get your hands dirty in exchange for lower costs.

 

The openings on mine looked pretty crappy from the factory, but I port matched my runners and plenum to the TPIS big mouth plenum/runner gaskets, then I smoothed everything out as far in as I could reach. The results were WELL worth it!

Just my $.02


Mike (1bad91Z)

 

Thats all fine and dandy, but for any cost you shouldn't have to do modifications to make those things fit properly, I can see porting if you want, but the average person wants to buy these and install them without having to make them fit. Even as far back as 1992 I was going to order those but they had the same issues then to, it sucks that after 11 years they still can't make those things right. I have noticed alot of their products are hot and cold as far as quality control, some people but their $499 headers and the flanges are bent, I bought their $399 catback system and it fit perfectly, but that is all I will ever buy from SLP again.

 

Like I said, if it was just the port matching I'd live with it... but it was like someone patched a hole, and tried to grind it down! It's worse than slipping by QC, it's knowing it's there and trying to pull a fast onE!

 

Actually, that isn't true. In the past there have been members who have done extensive port work to their SLP runners, only to switch to AS&M runners and find that the AS&M pieces outflow and outperform the SLP runners. Even if all other aspects of the two runners were equal (and they aren't), the extruded runner will always flow better than the cast runner.

It would be nice if SLP paid more attention to the parts they make for the cars that got their company started.

 

No surprise to me. Thats why I bought AS&M runners. My Slp headers were also like that plus the flanges were twisted and when I called SLP told me they were supposed to be like that, whatever . And for those that say no big deal, use a die grinder, screw that. What Benny said. Time is money. And for all the other problems I have had with them, Slp can kiss my white A$$. Send them back.

 

yea the 91-92 firehawks really got the company started...it almost bankrupted them

but they are secure for now....maybe we should get a thread goin about how unhappy us thirgdgen owners are about there products lately....

but also like jim said, theres a reason there cheaper..bolt them on and youll see gains over stock..but port match them and the gains will be more significant

i dunno i still wouldnt be happy with them even for cheaper

 

IF YOUR INTERESTED I AM SELLING USED AS&M LARGE TUBE RUNNERS, PORTED PLENUM AND INTAKE DONE BY AS&M. THEY CAME OFF MY 89 350. 435.00 INCLUDES UPS GROUND SHIPPING

 

Why send them back just port match them.

Some pictures of my SLP runners.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=173031

Jerry

 

I guess everybody has different priorities. I'll be snowmobiling in hell before I cough up $400+ for a damned pair of runners... especially considering I can get a complete stealth ram setup for a few bucks more. Time is money for some, but for me money is money, and the more I save the better. When everything else on my motor is so good that my runners become my biggest restriction, I'll change my point of view.

 

kevin89formula

do you still have the AS@M setup an is the intake a aftermarket or a stock one just ported..

ty.. Sammy

 

They are stock intake and plenum ported by as@m, just sold them yesterday.