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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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Hawks Super Duty Hood for Firebirds!

Basically a much taller SS-style hood, but for third gen Firebirds. Looks like I may be buying another hood for my '87!

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...?v=1&pid=11393
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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sweet , i had no idea that anyone was goin to make a hood like that . I would like to see it on a nice painted finished car unlike the one they show. Its dif, but i think its gonna be one of those hoods like the ram air 2 hood for camaros, it just looks off , i dont think the hood will look good but i would like to see it on a finished car .
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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I've seen one on a 4th gen Trans Am and it looked pretty sweet.
I'd get one if I didn't have the RA II already.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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I dunno about that one.

If I had a poncho, I'd go with the original RA hood.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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OMG! THATS THE HOOD I POSTED ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO AND NOONE REPLYED!!! THATS IT! THATS IT! thanks dude :-D
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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yuck. I absolutely abhor that hood. It doesn't fit with the body lines, doesn't have the stock creases in it......I honestly can't be any more disappointed. But then again...where there is demand there will be supply. Just don't expect one of those monstrosities adorning any of my current, past, or future birds.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by 3.1EyeCandy
yuck. I absolutely abhor that hood. It doesn't fit with the body lines, doesn't have the stock creases in it......I honestly can't be any more disappointed. But then again...where there is demand there will be supply. Just don't expect one of those monstrosities adorning any of my current, past, or future birds.
Sums up my opinion as well.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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I am so glad someone finally made that hood for Firebirds. I love that style of hood and have been wanting someone to make them for Firebirds so badly. I really like the Ram Air II hood, but it is becoming too common. Not just on 3rd gens, but I am seeing them on everything from S-10s to Hondas around here.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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dosent look to bad I might think about getting it if I had a bird wasent really into the ss style hoods on the camaros. but I always thought they would look better on the birds.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:46 AM
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I love it!!! If anyone gets it, post pics pronto! Looks like Kitt's gettin' a new hood soon! Anyone up for a photo shop?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:21 AM
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No offense to anyone here, but some guys change the look of their cars so much that it no longer looks like a Camaro or Firebird. If the look of your car attracted you in the first place, why mess with it that much? As far as I'm concerned, the thing GM really got right was styling on these cars. Now if they could only improve on the quality...
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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Yeah I agree with you 89FormulaRoth, but it could be for other purposes too just not for appearance. Someone could have done a carb swap and need extra room for clearance. Or someone could just want swap to set themselves apart. There's a blue formula here that looks just like mine... he listens to britney spears blaring all the time... so I installed a 8 point and no more confusion if it's my car or not.


That hood looks pretty sweet. Hey hawks finally got around and made new pictures of the firebird hoods instead of just reposting the camaro ones. Glad my bitching finally did something.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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I like the way the birds and camaros look stock, but I also like the modified ones as well.
There are some peices off of different years that make great additions to your car. Example, my 86 Trans Am with the 84 T/A hood and 91-92 Camaro rockers. Those peices add something to the car and makes it look much better,


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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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I typically like "tasty" mods, where it could have driven off the line that way if GM would have thought about it. Or wanted to invest in it.

I do not mind that hood on a firebird any more than if it was on a camaro. Its just different, whatever floats your boats...

John
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Those rockers look pretty sweet Zepher. Guess I have some searching to do to start researching. ;-)
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah I agree with you 89FormulaRoth, but it could be for other purposes too just not for appearance. Someone could have done a carb swap and need extra room for clearance.
Thats the main reason I want it. When I started working on my 87 TA, it was going to be a daily driver, and I was going to build a basic nitroused small block for it...the RA1 was going to give me enough clearance. Now, its no longer a daily driver (gotta love a company car!), and my engine plan has changed... a Pontiac 455 with a few "extras". Hood clearance may be an issue now, and as much as I like the RAII I'm hesitant to use it because there are so many of them out there. I want this car to be distinctive, instantly recognizable as mine, and this hood could help with both goals.

BTW, if anyone would like a nice ASCD RA1 hood, PM me. Its been primed and blocked several times, the seams have been filled on the bottom side (where the top and bottom panels meet...there was a huge gap all the way around), and the rear of the scoop has been opened up to let out engine compartment heat.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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I like the factory styling of the Camaros and Firebirds. However, I don't want to look like every other one out there. I like mine to stand out. Where I live, you see lots of third gen f-bodies. I hardly ever see a customized one around here. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a unique looking f-body.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Photoshop

Here is my crappy attempt at a Photoshop of the hood.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Bruce should make a Johnbloed style hod for the Birds. I bet they would sell really good
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by PontiacRacing
I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a unique looking f-body.
Neither do I.....I just can't stand that hood.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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It's definitely unique. I like it but I'm not really sure just how much. I look forward to seeing actually painted and on a car. I'd also like to see a Jongbloed style as long as it followed the Firebird lines. How about a Pro Am style style hood? Maybe a 4" high at the cowl area?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Anyone else want to attempt a Photoshop of the Super Duty hood?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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pics from the hawks site. no need for photoshop here.




it needs the stock creases to meet up with the nose lines.
without them it looks incomplete.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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What I've been wanting is a big block vette "stinger" style hood... The SS one pictured just doesn't fit the body lines as already mentioned...
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Neither do I.....I just can't stand that hood.
I am different. My car is in good condition. AND looks stock.

I never seen any in good shape around here except for the occasional RS Camaro. The Firebirds are always a mess.

Theres a guy driving one around that's an 87 Formula style with a 85 Style TA nose with no foglights in it and no GFX to go with them. The things been hit so hard from the front that the driver side fender, hood and the mismatched nose are all ruined. It has mismatched wheels and tires and the paints falling off.

The headlight assembly was also destroyed. The thing just needs to be put down. I would say part it out but I don't think it has anything I could use.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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LT1Guy...

If you wanna look unique, and since the 455 is such a mamoth motor, why not get a flat Firebird hood and just smoothly cut out part of it to have a velocity stack(s) poke out?

No one does that anymore, prolly because most people dont do it right and it looks like ***, but i've seen it done right and it can look really mean.

Or maybe a 2ndGen Trans Am shaker scoop? like one on a '79 Trans Am? That looks good too!

If you want a hood to just bolt on, a 'power bulge' hood looks best IMO.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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nah don;t like it, looks like camaro hood. it like putting ws6 style hood on a z just looks all wrong
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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it doesn't have the diagonal body lines on the hood like the other firebird hoods... i don't really like it, they should try to integrate the body lines...
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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I think it would look a whole lot better on the 91-92 firebirds than the 85-90... just IMHO
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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found this pic on my computer... saved it along the way... thought it was the most badass pic of a 3rd gen i ever seen despite being `chopped
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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hey yeaaa dude that looks sick... cant wait to get mine now
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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ya, looks good in that pic, but... with the vision body kit... it just doesn't work, i don't think atleast. with that body kit, it actually flows and works right.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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After seeing it on that p-chopped '91-'92, I retract my previous statement. That does look a lot better on that year. :hail:
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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what is da vision body kit ??????
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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it doesn't have the diagonal body lines on the hood like the other firebird hoods... i don't really like it, they should try to integrate the body lines...
I agree with you. It would look a lot better with the body line in it
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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what is da vision body kit ??????
the vision body kit is where it's all squareish & flat on the front.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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That thing is sweet.............:hail: :hail: :hail:

Props to Hawk's to getting it done, and getting it done well.......
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 04:25 AM
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now, to make a jongbloed hood with IROC louvers for camaros. Then all will be right with the world.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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is it bolt on????
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
LT1Guy...

If you wanna look unique, and since the 455 is such a mamoth motor, why not get a flat Firebird hood and just smoothly cut out part of it to have a velocity stack(s) poke out?

No one does that anymore, prolly because most people dont do it right and it looks like ***, but i've seen it done right and it can look really mean.

Or maybe a 2ndGen Trans Am shaker scoop? like one on a '79 Trans Am? That looks good too!

If you want a hood to just bolt on, a 'power bulge' hood looks best IMO.
I've thought about that, but a good portion of my induction system is going to be above where the factory hood would be, so it would be more sticking out than just a velocity stack or two. I'm really undecided on exactly what to do for a hood, and until the project gets further along I won't be able to tell for sure whats going to look best. The 2nd gen shaker will be too small, and up too high to look right for my combo. The power bulge won't offer near enough clearance, either...even with the Super Duty or the RAII pin on hood I'm now considering, there might have to be some modifications made to run all the turbo and intercooler piping.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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is it bolt on????
Yes, its bolt on, though I don't see why a pin on version couldn't be made available.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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just drill holes, right? for pin that is.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Custom fab your own hood.

If your not willing to do that, or to have someone do it for you, it's only a matter of how LONG you'll have it before everyone else does.

Most of these hoods looks terrible. Just you because it looks good on a 4th gen does NOT mean it will look good on a thirdgen. Look at all the variations of the hoods on 10 years of thirdgens, don't you think GM woulda used these ideas if they thought they looked good? I still think the RA2 for thirdgens of any brand is the the only hood ever made thats uglier than the daytona turbo Iroc hood. I normally accept any and all ideas....I always stick up for the guy gettin' flamed for whatever idea, but all these hoods are killin' me. DON'T do it. Just because they build it doesn't mean you have to buy it. I promise, you can still see the light....put the credit card DOWN.

What about the the bandit 2/shaker hood? That's cool, ahhhh, but that's not "IN" right now, is it?

I can understand the hood clearance issue, but dang, theres gotta be a better way. LT1guy, I hold you in the highest regard, and always look forward to your opinions and your modfications, but this one is better left to others. Put the credit card DOWN!!!
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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dood, it's a new hood, and some people could of been waiting for a hood like this.

looks like the down needs to be "calm down" instead of "put down".. it's alright... it's alright..

& some hoods may look bad, some may look good. WHO CARES!? it's personnal expression. And what may look good to me, or bob so & so, may look like my crap to you.

One mans trash is another mans treasure.

It's able to be applied to all and every situation, this including.

& i doubt anyone on these forums, cept for maybe 5 people, have the money to do "what's in" typed stuff. Most people say, ya, i would liek to have one of those, that doesn't mean they are going to buy it, but that they just like it.

So man, please.. don't diss us all for liking a hood. Look for some other hoods on here, i'm sure the same results have come from them being shown as well. IE, carbon fibre hood, mmm..


*not trying to sound like a a##, cuz i'm not*.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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dood, it's a new hood, and some people could of been waiting for a hood like this.
I am one of those people who have been waiting for that hood to come out for the firebird. I cant wait to get it in the spring when i have the money. I like it, and thats all that matters... its not like a whole lot of people will be seeing the front of my car on the strip anyway
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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OK, put it this way, if you have been waiting for this hood to come out even before it was for sale, then I'm OK with that. (Not that you need my permission).

I love the SS scoop, but it shoulda been made fit the poncho lines a little more.

Think about it this way:
If you were going to design a hood that looked good for your car, what are the chances that you'd take a pre-existing design, and make it work for your car? NONE. You might take the idea, but you'd craft, and design, and massage, until you got a complete custom piece of work. All these hoods are hack jobs where 4th gen hoods are grafted into thirdgen hoods and molded for mass production.



I'm a designer/graphic artist and I have so many original ideas that will never see the light of day, and all these cookie cutter hoods are on the market because they sell. Now, don't get me wrong, that makes GREAT business, but I'd like to see some original thinking....and THEN we'd have some SWEET hoods.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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Let me re-phrase. There not hack jobs. I just wish a little more desing was put into making them match the lines of our cars. Think of how subtle the changes were from 97 Camaros to 98 Camaros. Even with those little changes they redesigned the hood scoop. I wish whoever is making these "fourthgen" style hoods would modify them aesthetically as well as mechanically to fit our thirdgens.

Does that make sense?




-And no, i didn't think you were being an azz.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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90FormulaWS6 Thank you for posting that pic, that gives me a rough idea of what it'd look like on my 'bird.

You guys think it'd look good on a 91-92 Formula? Was originally going ram-air, but this is intriguing...

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Abubaca....

if we could make our own hoods, own styled & everything, most of us probably would. I know i would, i've got some ideas that would be great. Same with body kits. But the fact of the matter is, no one can, so we try to enjoy what we get. WHich sometimes may not be that great, but it's better than nothing.

I respect the way you view this, but you've gotta see how we respect these hoods and the designs they put out as well. It's all that's available, so we try to make the best out of it.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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From: Sophia, NC
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I didn't mean to come across as strongly as it sounded...sorry.

I actually kinda like the SD hood, but it's just the principle behind the whole thing.

The Jongbloed hood is not my cup of tea either, but that's the type of thinking I wish were making all the hoods. It's unique.
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