Are they any good? I was thinkin of using it for replacing my air box, the crappy side intake design on 85?-90 Firebirds. Kragen's having a sale, $30 for one of those. Oh, and TomP, how did you get yours to become Ram Air? Did you remove stuff?? I was thinking of removing the metal mount that holds the air box and the charcoal canister, then stick the ***** filter on the end of the MAF, and mount the charcoal canister on the holes that held the metal mount. I could leave the IAT sensor hangin near the filter right?

 

Karl has a real nice set-up . Hey Karl , post this man a pic of your set-up when you get a chance bud

 

I thought about the same thing,I was gonna yank all the factory $hit out and use bigger round shaped pieces of pipe.And i thought about using a air filter from the ***** shop cuz there alot bigger and it seems like any air filter would work as long as u have one and it's big enough........Andy

 

89V6, yeah, you could do that. 'Fact I left my air temp sensor hanging near my filter, too!

I pretty much replaced everything of my intake except for the MAF. I should get a picture or two up, eh? Maybe after my vacation...

First, I bought a camaro throttle body hose (round) from a junkyard. (Actually the guy just gave it to me.) Then I bought, from SummitRacing.com, a mandrel bent section of exhaust pipe- it was by Hooker, 3" diameter, 180 degree, J-bend for $35. (J-bend is tighter than a U-bend.) I also ordered the biggest K&N I could find. At the Home Depot Speed Shop, I bought two 3"-to-3" flexible rubber PVC connector for $6. At Pep Boys, I bought a 6 foot length of 3 inch "air intake tubing" for $10.

Next, I ripped out all the stock junk. I separated the 45-degree bend from the MAF sensor. (The glue had dried up so it was easy). I pushed the charcoal can up and out of the way.

I cut the J-bend in half to form a 90-degree bend.

I put the camaro TB hose on my TB. I attached the other end to the 90 degree exhaust pipe. I used a flex coupler to connect the exhaust pipe to the MAF. Then, I used the other flex coupler to connect the MAF to the "air intake tubing".

I ran the "air intake tubing" through the inside front of the passenger side fender, and below the car. I stretched the tube so it came out in front of my radiator, and hooked up the K&N. I put the K&N in essentially the same spot that a Camaro would have it's filters, and went for a ride.

It sucked. The car seemed slower, and, the temp rose up really fast. Never occured to me how big the conical was compared to the radiator! So I brought it home, and tried to take the system apart. I then noticed something...

On the passenger side, under the front of the fender, there's the lower fender brace. Its shaped like a "Y". The split part attaches to the bottom of the fender. The single part of the "Y" attaches to the lower frame rail. I placed the K&N right above this fender brace, and used large hose clamps (also from the Home Depot Speed Shop's plumbing aisle) to anchor the filter to the brace.

I then noticed that by loosening the side piece of my air dam- you know, the side of the air dam that covers the bottom of the fender- it acted like an air scoop! I undid all the little 9/32" screws holding the side of the air dam to the bottom of the fender. I stood in front of the bumper, and pulled that cover downward- I could see the filter!

So that's my ram air. I had to wire the flap "shut" because at high speeds, the wind would bend the plastic down, and it would scrape the road. I want to rig up some kind of cable or motor driven scoop... but haven't done it yet. You could really feel the car pull, though, when that flap was down.

 

Tom, I was just looking at the right fender, and I see what you mean, but where did you put the charcoal can? I see no room for a pipe and the charcoal can, if the pipe wants to go to the fender. And the flap thing, I was wondering if you could get really long screws, and then put spacers in between, so that it would stay open, yet secured. Or cut it somehow, and then stick those triangle dryer vent things. Have you seen those, they look like a triangle, with a big opening at the bottom? Then it'll look like some type of scoop.

Oh, BTW, on your other post, when you said you removed your MAF screen and got a code, I did the same, no codes appeared. This is, however with the stock airbox.

I am hoping to see where/how you mounted your charcoal can. That I think is the biggest problem.

 

I went out and got one of those ***** filters for $25 at Pep Boys, and 2 hose clamps, total cost $29.75. And I had a 10 ft 3" PVC drain pipe in the back, so that was no cost, I only needed like 3" or 4". The canister is mounted to where the old <i>mount</i> used to be screwed to. Then there's a piece of PVC pipe in b/twn the MAF and the ***** filter (the ***** filter has a rubber inlet, so I needed to put in something stronger. And finally the IAT sensor is juss hangin there (that was hell to get off the old housing.

Edit: Forgot to say that it feels like the engine <i> is </i> breathing better, and that filter HISSES.

 

Ahh Duct tape, probably the best thing since sliced bread....

 

Man 89V6FBIRD that looks exactly like my setup down to the filter.

 

Looks good! What I did with the charcoal can is I removed it, along with it's mounting bracket. I ran the hose straight into the fender, and the charcoal can was (i think) moved all the way forward, towards the headlights. I say "i think" because I removed the thing for emissions testing in January and haven't put it back yet. Oops.

 

heres my setup...on a 1990 3.1 (no MAF...heheh)

 

and using a paddle bit, I drilled into the PVC, and the ITA sensor screwed right in. the PVC is soft enough where the teeth in the sensor with create a seal as it screws into the PVC (it right under the 45* bend).