Measurments
-------------------------------(front)----(rear)-----(air dam)---(cat.)
Before (stock springs) ------ 2 1/8"-----1 7/8"---- 7 1/2'' -----5 1/2"

After (DropZones w/ 1/2 ----- 1/2"---- 1 3/8" ----5 3/4" ---- 3 1/2"
of a coil cut from front springs)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total drop ------------------ 1 5/8" ---- 1/2" ----- 1 3/4"------- 2"

Ok here they are the new pics with the springs installed (I could only take it out for a few snapshots as its currently being stored for the winter)

 

Looks good, but i would not have cut half a coil off of the front. It looks like you are going to have some tire rubbing issues.

I was going to get DropZone springs but for like 13 dollars more you can get some from a company called Spring Tech, with 35 years experience. These are the ones I bought and they advertise a 1.75 inch drop all the way around. They say that the rates are very similiar to that of the stock Z-28 or IROC spring but at a lower ride height.

I'll let you guys know how it goes.

 

I dont have any rubbing yet and I have been over a few bumps and have turned the wheel from lock to lock driving around and no rubing yet...So hopefully I wont notice any in the future.

 

WOW! now thats low on the front. I hope you dont regret cutting those front springs cause I almost bet that in time you are going to lose that 1/2 you got. Then you will have 0...in the front....are those measurements from the top of the tire to your fender and quarter lips?

Its does look great! I just hope they dont settle some...You havent really driven the car alot since you put them in so you say....

Hey how much snow you guys got up there?

 

The car looks good! Hopefully you won't develop any tire rubbing issues.

 

I went outside and looked at my car closer...did you remove the inside fender well on the fronts? cause if my tires were as low as those they would be hitting the fender wells?

 

I emailed whoever was selling those on ebay. and it says that those springs could lower the V6 by 1.7"? is this BS? if i buy them would i have to cut coils off to achieve that look you got? also note that i have 18" wheels

 

<b>Ok guys, yes I thought real hard about cutting the springs before I did it,,I just want to make it clear,,,that IF YOU cut your springs and they are too low, that I want to make it clear I am in no way respossible as every car can be different as the springs are too,,,,,so if you cut them you may be screwed,,,just a warning!!</b>

If I do come out having any real bad rubing problems I get some rubber coil lifters and raise it a little,,,but I would almost bet Im going to be ok.

Wishmaster's87IROC: We got a good bit of snow,,,maybe a yard or so average. Ya my measureing was from the very top of the tire to the very start of the fender/body,,,So I acually got more room then 1/2" for spring travel,,,as the wheel can go inside the fender a good bit more. I dont think it will ever realy rub because I still have those rubber snubs on the a arm to conect with the frame of the car when the car bottoms out. You also have to think that cutting a 1/2 of a coil will make the spring harder/stiffer. Think of it this way,,,,,how many times have you heard your tire rub when it bottoms out in a pothole with stock springs,,,,never, right. Gm put those snubs there for just that reason,,,,so thats why its not a good idea to remove them.

91FIREBIRDGT: I DON'T think you should cut them....you have a firebird with a v6,,,I have an Iroc with a v8,,,theres too much there different for you to go on any of my results. Firebirds could be a bit different. The drop measurment they gave you is a aprox lowing difference from a NEW stock spring and a DZ lowering spring. As GM used many different springs in the 3rd gen fbody we dont know what spring they are baseing their results on. Plus your springs arnt new, like they base there tests on. Its not important at all in what size of rim you got its how high your tire is,,,because of your tire size. My tire is about 24" high, whats yours? Most guys see about a 3/4 inch drop all the way around or so when the springs are supposed to drop 1 1/2" or 1 3/4". Best idea is if you get a set,,,try them out w/o cuting them,,,then if you want it a bit lower cut off 1/3 of a coil or so....but this is only if you can take them out yourself,,as it would be costly to keep screwing around with them at a shop.

 

Jeff
It looks great If the fronts do start to rub then you can put shims in to fix it up. I doen't know if you have taken it for a long drive yet but do you think the ride in any rougher?

z28redline:hail:

 

Ya like I said in my last post if I have to Ill get some rubber coil lifters. I drove it from the shop home,,,and there are lots of bad roads on the way and it didnt rub so,,,,,it doesnt really ride that rough, I mean it was pretty rough before anyway,,Id say its a lit' bit rougher but not a whole lot....the rear doesnt bottom out as much. I like the ride,,,I need some shocks tho, but first I need headers as my monifold leak is geting bad. Im very happy with everything about the swap!!!

 

Hey next time your at your car, go out there and measure it from the ground to the fenders lips on all fours? I want to know what those measurements are.


Cause here a pic of my car just last week when I cleaned it and coverd it back up. My fronts have gone down another 1/4 but that just may be me.
Also my tires are so far worn all the way around if I was to measure from the top of the tire to the lip when they are new or atleast legal the may be closer to what you got,,,,not as much but closer...

 

nice pics!! car looks good..

 

Wishmaster's87IROC:
ya it seems like my fronts got less air in them or its ause there is way more weight on the front tire. but heres the tire measurments. Plus they only have 5 months use on them I just bought them.

front tire height is 24 3/4"
rear tire hieght is 25"

so that equals total hieght from ground to fender is:

front 24 3/4" + 1/2" = 25 1/4"
rear 25" + 1 3/8" = 26 3/8"

hows that compare to yours?......just to be sure mine dont go lower like your how long have your springs been in there exactly???

Ya man kick *** pics ,,,nice car and it does look lower!

 

my tire hieght is 24 1/2 ...they are way worn out... i just went out and measured the hieght of the car. The rear is at 26 3/4 and the front is 26 to 25 3/4

SO thats not much different than yours but you got to remember that I didnt cut the springs either......

As to how long Ive had them on......They were put on the car on 1/5/2003 and I have only drove the car mabe about 250 miles....its been in my garage ever since...so Im sure the car will drop more once the summer hit and I drive it everyday ..of course except when it rains.....

plus when I buy a new set of tires that will fill the gap in the fenders...they are really not that bad right now though....you can barley see them, its just hard cause I painted my fender wells and keep them clean so they tend to match the tire area pretty good...

 

24 7/8" front, 25 3/4" rear and no rubbing for 8 years now.

 

I guess a pic would be nice. I run 800lb front springs and a lightweight V6

 

wow! shiny rims....you got a better picture of your car? what kind of springs are you talking about that you have?

 

Just 16" Iroc rims chromed. Springs I custom fitted years ago- I think they were Eibach race springs if I recall correctly (doesn't really matter) I custom cut them to ride height. They actually started out at 800lbs and are probably more like 825 now because of the trimming increases spring rate.
I need to take a better picture of the car outside the garage in daylight. The entire under neath is fully built(mostly Spohn- not one stock part. except for the axle housing- but even that has been built with an Auburn posi, better bearings and a preloaded aluminum diff cover. Trans is a Darrell Young full race 700r4. I am currently acquiring parts including stainless steel ceramicoated headers for a "to be first" fully modified 3.4 60*v6 Camaro hoping to push 220-240 HP combined with lightweight. This car is setup for cornering not dragracing.

EDIT: I should also note that stock the 2.8 V6 puts out only 135HP
and with the little engine mods I currently have combined with my fully built drivetrain I have run a 15.9 1/4. I'm looking to get at least into the 14's with the new built motor. Not bad for the little V6

 

hey a good2.8 could you pm or email me a list of your mods, i have a 91 3.1l and it needs all the help it can get (i can barely edge out my friends 92 305 tbi) i love to drift, but i would also like to break into the 15's on the v-6

any help would be appreciated

 

I listed the drivetrain and suspension above. This is the most crucial part of modifying any vehicle- getting what power you have to the pavement. When I build a car I always build the suspension and drivetrain first before I mess with the motor at all.

Parts list of acquired parts for my V6 waiting for install:
62mm throttle body(stock is 52mm)Have
Weld and match port plenium and intake(Have a good friend that will do this for me when I'm ready to pull the 2.8 out)
GM HT3.4 crate motor-Have (Using cam that came with it.)
Supersix fully ported and polished heads w/ 1.8 intake valves-Will be ordering in the near future
Crane 1.6 gold narrowbody aluminum roller rockers-Have
Stainless steel ceramic coated custom headers and ceramic coated custom y-pipe- Paid for and will have in a week or two- They are at the coaters as we speak
19 # injectors- need to buy still.
Then need to get the module calibrated for new setup

This will put me at least 220 maybe 240HP realiably- the '93-'95 Camaro 3.4 blocks are stonger than the 2.8 and 3.1 blocks. This will be a big boost from the 145HP I'm pushing currently.

Edit: Thought I might add that this to my knowledge has never been done before and GM made claims in their performance catalog of 60*V6 factory race motors exceding 1.5 HP per cubic inch. Its even possible that I may see close to 300 hp but I highly doubt it without more bottomend work. I will be using a Fiero windage tray in the pan.

 

hmm im awaiting my 1.75 inch dropzone springs
should i need worry bout rubbing with the stock 15x7 inch rims
not i will be upgrading to 17x8's later
will that do anything???

hey AGood2.8
where did u get a 62mm TB??
wanting to do the 3.4 swap but wanted to know if the 3.4 DOHC engine was a 60*v6??

 

the 3.4 swap isn't the DOHC its the 93-95 camaro 60* V6 I'm about to get these springs myself too.

 

Ok Ive been searching and reading about cutting springs and not....to each there own is the word....

anyway...I am going to redo my springs all the way around. Ive been reading about indexing the springs and I did not do it correctly in the rear and from what I read that will make the car lower in the rear....The top "end" of the spring is suppose to be pointed towards the front of the car and that will make the rear sit correctly or lower from what Ive been reading, also I could if I wanted remove the spring isolators and just put some rubber hose around the top of the spring, that will lower it more too.

Now for the fronts, when I indexed the springs for the front I just barely covered the first drain hole and put brand new spring isolators on the tops, the new ones were alot thicker than the old ones so what im going to do is remove the front springs and index them correctly in between the 2 drain holes or just barely covering the second one and maybe put some thinner spring isolators on the tops....Then I almost bet ya I will be close to where you are with out having to cut them.

I'll let you know what I come up with..

 

My rears and fronts are indexed right now,,,,,my front springs have the factory isolators on them. Maybe you should consider cutting off 1/4 of a coil (some say it will give you 1/2" drop),,,but i understand if you dont want to screw with them. Anyway good luck and let me know how it turns out!

 

u guys with ur DZ springs hows the car handle compared to stock?

 

way better!!!!!! No more slopy rearend,,and bottoming out back there. The front is nice and tight...........mmmmmmmm rails-r-us!!!

 

oh ya and its totally the best $200can Ive ever spent on anything for my car!!!!!!!!

 

i got em on ebay for 89 dollars

 

cool,,,mine were 104us off there but buy the time i got them here with shipping and all that jaz they were about 200can. Lets see pics when you get them on dude!!!

 

Man, your car looks exactly like mine. Even your rims are painted too...

 

you mean my ride height?? sorry dude mine is way lower then yours,,,yours looks like a monster truck a nice monster truck at that (ohhh sweet car man),,,,and my rims arint painted I want to do em tho! Do you have any pics of your car showing it look more purple not black like??
Heres a couple better pics of mine:



heres before my springs:

heres after my springs:

 

No, I don't have any decent pics, but it's like bang on colorwise. It does sit a little high for me, but I'll be getting a set of Dropzone's this summer. I have to pay off my heads first.
I have a pic that might perk some interest for you though...

 

yah right on man!!!!!
I think i see it at Camaro Country board ....... really nice man!!!!
Get a set of shocks too if yours are anywere near old cause i didnt at first when i got my DZ in but i wish i had now. I just used a set of Monro struts and shocks and it rides like a new car! Id love to see your car in person......Do you have a cardomain site?? cheack out mine if your bored.

 

Yeah, shoot me your cardomain address I have one on there too my name there is cruznbruzr. Where in Canada are you, PEI?
I plan on through some new 1LE shocks and struts on it, hopefully.

 

I just got my DropZone Springs in the mail today...

Quick Question, do you have a DIRECT side shot of the car??

I was planning on cutting the springs .25" on the front and rear as well, to kinda give the car a lower look...

Any problems thus far with the .5" cut on the front springs....