which is better for performance? both choices are with K&N's of course.

 

Dual snorkel because it draws cool air from outside the car. Worth 1/4 second in the 1/4 mile on a 16 second 305 3rd gen

Finding one is a different question. Kinda hard anymore. This guy sometimes has them. But make sure to get the complete outfit, including snorkles and ducts for both sides. The individual parts are next to impossible to find.

http://members.***.net/iroczdave1/

 

You cannot go wrong with either. You will have fitment problems with late model 3rd gen TBI cars that re equipt with AC. You cannot be the price and performance of a $20 open element.

 

Yeah, either will beat the heck out of a single snorkle LG4 style cleaner assembly

But I see your car is a TPI model. You are seeking the dual snorkel setup for a QJet 4 barrel, aren't you?

 

yeah, my car is a 4bbl...not the GTA in my sig, my camaro not in my sig yet.. well i guess i'll use whichever i can pick up cheaper.

 

You can make a dual snorkle air filter pretty cheap, just a little junkyard hunting, then cutting and screwing. There's a good tech article on this site about it, also, I made one for my 78 Caprice coupe, you can see the writeup on my page if you're interested:

http://home.earthlink.net/~guy1139/bigcoupe.htm

 

The one I have looks pretty bet up. Do you guys think it would be fixable?

 

yea you could save that DS and clean it up have it chrome plated and itll look real nice, but you will have a difficult time finding the ducts and hoses if you dont already have them, theres a fella on TBI board whos got a super cool chromed DS, according to what hes said you might end up paying a small fortune to get the ducts and hoses since no one carrys the oem pieces.

 

dual snorkel over open element any day

 

Where would I find the snorkel tubes? Can you find repo parts for it. Or am I going to have to go hunting.

 

i found my entire assembly on ebay for 100 bucks. id try there first.

 

Yea, dual snorkel is the best IMO. The ducts are hard to find though, but there is a company called Ram Air or something that does sell a set. I can't find the URL though.

 

possibly http://www.ramairbox.com/ ???

 

Dude, my set up cost like $20 in junkyard parts, the ducts for an f-body are hard to find, I ended up buying several different ducts to try out and cobbling a few together to make the snorkle seen on the driver's side of the car. The assembly on the passenger side is stock for the B-bodies. I just made about 4 trips to the junkyard and whenever I ws looking for something else for my car, I'd also check out ducts. If you want to bolt on and finish in a weekend, then www.ramairbox.com is probably the way to go, but making your own is fun, easy, and looks more stock, if you're into that.

 

Ram Air Box - thats what I was talking about

Thanks guys

 

What about this for a TPI setup?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWA%3AIT

 

Someone here made something like that... worked well for him

 

Thanks for they info. What would I look under on ebay?

 

just search for dual snorkel setup for 3rd gens

 

That is an excellent setup that you cobbled together!

Please do a write up of it listing all the parts and which cars you took them from. Then submit it to this site for a good tech article. So many people really want a dual snorkle setup but can't find all the parts. You've made a fairly good looking piece there and should share your knowledge :hail:

 

For 90-92 TPI, this is the coolest,

 

Thanks for the compliment, I would do that, but I used a tech article on this site as the basis for my build up (I credited and linked it on my webpage), and it's not on an F-body, so the parts might not work that well. Also, the elbow on the driver side is off of an astro van, and the passenger side is stock b-body, but I don't have any idea what the 2nd scoop is from.

Here's the write-up from my page: http://home.earthlink.net/~guy1139/mods/dsnork.htm

Thanks again for the compliment

 

Which one is that?

 

Looks like the SLP setup.

 

Im gonna have to say open element, its alot cheaper unless you know how to make your own dual snorkel

 

The question was specifically "better for performance". In that case, dual snorkel gets the nod.

Unless, of course, there isn't any ducting to a cool air source. In that case, open element and dual snorkel are equivilent. Well, open might actually be a little better.

 

plus, an open element look better. JMO.

 

Oh I don't know. Black chrome dual snorkels look pretty good.

 

Oh man, that is beautiful!!!

Tell me how you did it and how much it cost, please!!!!

 

I run open element sealed against the 3" cowl hood

 

 

The black chrome was $260. Not very many shops will do it. I'm not sure how it is done but there are some special processes that not all shop will take on. You may have to check around a bit to find a shop that does black chrome.

Just to give you an idea of the add cost, my previous dual snorkel I have done in regualr chrome and it was $85.

Ofcourse those prices are just for the plating and does not include the dual snorkel. Which are running anywhere from $100 - $150 or more for a good one. And that will probably not include the duct work.

I think I have some more pics. I'll post if I can find.

 

Well I can't seem to post a pic to here is a link to a post that has the black chrome with the regular chrome lid sitting next to it.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...t=dual+snorkel

 

Can you tell fortunes too?

First off if the air cleaner helped the engine make more power it would result in a higher MPH, not necessarly a faster ET.

The way to tell of a modification has altered horsepower is to see its reflection in MPH. ET relies on too many other variables (Traction, shifts, track temp, etc) to be reliable.

Lets do a little math. ...

HP = (speed / 234)^3 x weight.

ET (if car is set up for perfect traction) = (weight / HP)^1/3 x 5.825

Using the above example, if the car runs 16 seconds and weighs 3600 lbs we can determine that the car makes 173 HP and would run the 1/4 at about 85 MPH

To run the 1/4 at 15.75 the car would have to make 182 HP.

Thats almost a 6% gain. Thats quite a bit for simply changing the TEMPERATURE if the intake charge. If such a mod could provide a 5% increase in power could a 400 HP engine gain 20 HP?

All this is if the car is set up with a perfect suspension.

My point is what little gain, if any, is probably inconsequential. And such hard and fast rules of "its worth a 1/4 second", or a "100 lb weight reduction is worth a tenth" is definatley the exception and not the rule.

 

Alas, it is not a "hard and fast rule" but real and actual dragstrip performance observed and reported by Hot Rod magazine.

Blame them.