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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Brake Bleeder won't open! Help ASAP

I am trying to bleed my brakes, and I cannot open the damn bleeder valve. I was told it was a 10mm, but no it's not. It's smaller than 10mm but larger than 9mm. If I continue using my 10mm I will round the thing off. What do I do? I cannot drive my car until I bleed the brakes, and today is my anniversary with the gf so SHE has to drive everywhere and I feel like a loser. "It's always something with you and your car!"
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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is it 3/8?
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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I think it's smaller.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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if you can't find the right size use a vise grip to get it out , then replace it with a new one .... hope that helps
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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3/8 is 9.525mm
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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its a 10mm i just had to do my rear brakes yesterday but if your saying a 10 dont fit you better start looking at standard sizes or try a line wrench
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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If its stock its 10 MM>>>>> BUT biggest problem is they round easily.... BEST advice I can give is FIND/BUY a 6 POINT socket or 6 point wrench to loosen it... Usually they round when people use a 12 point wrench to loosen them...
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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try 11/32 its a little bigger then a 9 and smaller then a 10
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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If it's a front, a whole rebuilt caliper is like $12. Just change them both out and be done with it.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
If it's a front, a whole rebuilt caliper is like $12. Just change them both out and be done with it.
that's cheap! Are there any "upgrades" I can do, IE a two-piston caliper or something? Anything is better than our stock brakes.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Token
that's cheap! Are there any "upgrades" I can do, IE a two-piston caliper or something? Anything is better than our stock brakes.
Yeah...but it won't be done in one day
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by Petes 84Z28
Yeah...but it won't be done in one day
nevermind then, haha

should I attempt to Vice Grip this bastard off, and put it back on until I get to the store for a new one? or do I just sit here and cry about it?
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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If it was me, I'd walk to the store, or use one of my other cars, or borrow one, or call somebody and get a ride. Half-assing brakes and driving around on them isn't my idea of a good idea, if you know what I mean.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Car: 1992 Firebird
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WELL THAT WAS GAY

I broke the bleeder valve off... I didn't round it off, it just friggin snapped!

So I "bled" them the ghetto way; I let the soft line hang until it began to drip (3 drips per second sound good?) with the cap off the resivoir. I manually filled the caliper (which I had used a C-clamp to push the piston in) with brake fluid from the can. I put the bolt through the soft line and let it drip in a little bit. I tightened the bolt and put the caliper back on. Brakes are ultra soft but 100x better than they were. This means there's still a little air in there, right?

Any suggestions? This sucks!
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Token
This means there's still a little air in there, right?
Good guess!
Originally posted by Token
Any suggestions? This sucks!
Time for a trade-in. Wouldn't hurt to install new hoses at the same time, unless you know they've been done in the past couple years. Check the other side as well.
Put some anti-seize on the threads of the 'new' bleed screw.
Don't let the master cylinder run dry of fluid while working on it.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Yeah, that's what they do. Pretty common.

Looks like it's time to replace the calipers.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
Yeah, that's what they do. Pretty common.

Looks like it's time to replace the calipers.
So replacing the calipers isn't a big deal? I mean, not a big costly expense? I've replaced my pads and rotors before but I didn't mess with the fluid. I just compressed the pistons and that was that. Where can I get cheap replacements aside from the obvious two answers (ebay/junkyard)? My pads are still pretty newish with about 12k miles on them- is that normal wear?

How much more persay would some "performance" calipers cost me?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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So replacing the calipers isn't a big deal? I mean, not a big costly expense? I've replaced my pads and rotors before but I didn't mess with the fluid. I just compressed the pistons and that was that. Where can I get cheap replacements aside from the obvious two answers (ebay/junkyard)? My pads are still pretty newish with about 12k miles on them- is that normal wear?

How much more persay would some "performance" calipers cost me?
most likely, you pay more for the pads then for replacement calipers. autozone wants $11.99 with a $10 core.

just undo the same bolts to take it off, take off the line, walk to the store and swapem for $12.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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btw, you DONT want "the performance package" brakes.

thoes are 1LE brakes

and you dont have a 1LE car

and theres more envolved in the 1LE swap then the calipers.


just go buy the $12 caliper, bleed it, and drive away...
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
btw, you DONT want "the performance package" brakes.

thoes are 1LE brakes

and you dont have a 1LE car

and theres more envolved in the 1LE swap then the calipers.


just go buy the $12 caliper, bleed it, and drive away...
I meant if there was a 2-piston non 1LE or something Anyway, $12-ish at any parts center with a core trade in?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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I meant if there was a 2-piston non 1LE or something Anyway, $12-ish at any parts center with a core trade in?
thats about right.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 07:26 PM
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Re: Brake Bleeder won't open! Help ASAP

I have a 95 Bronco and the 3/8 fit perfect.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Brake Bleeder won't open! Help ASAP

While you are buying new calipers, get some Speed Bleeders.
They replace the standard bleeder screw, and they have a spring and check ball inside.
All you have to do to bleed is loosen them about 1/4 turn and pump the brakes. When all the air is removed, then tighten them.
Do 1 wheel at a time. Use a 6 point wrench or socket to prevent rounding. Do not let the master cylinder get empty.
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