I turned the key over to let the fuel go to the fuel rail and I hear "pssssss" I go look threw the intake manifold , the back screw on the passenger side I did not put on all the way . I took the manifold off and it seems to be stripped . I screw it in , it seems like its going in , then it pops back out . HELP ! WHAT DO I DO ? IM in a panic because I HAVE TO GET THIS CAR RUNNING TODAY . PLEASE HELP ASAP !!!

 

Okay, what piece are you calling a manifold? The intake manifold is the piece that the fuel injectors stick into. The lower plenum is the "V" shaped piece that comes up and around the fuel rail. The upper plenum covers the fuel rail.

Does the car not run? Is there a fuel leak?

 

Shoot ! I meant to say fuel rail , that big bolt with the fuel line going thew it on the passenger side , you know how you have 2 lines in the fuel rail on the passenger side . Looking from the front of the car , it is the second bolt , bigger one in the fuel rail

 

I didn't wanna start it and take a chance of "BOOOMMMM" It does not seem like a massive leak , i touched the fuel rail around the areau where it was leaking , and it was just a little gas but its enough to smell it if you stick you nose down kinda in that areau ...Im in such a big panic here!!!

 

HELP HELP HELP !!!!

 

LOL welcome to the 3.1.

The hard fuel lines are a bitch at best. Its not stripped, its just a PITA to get tightened. Push the fuel line hard till it seats in the fuel rail, hold it there with one hand and slide the fitting into the threads on the fuel rail and turn it as far as you can by hand, then use a flare nut wrench to tighten it. It might take a few tries, but eventually it'll go in.

Isn't it great when gas shoots everywhere? I left a lake of gasoline in my apts parking lot one day cause the fitting was goobered up by a previous owner.

 

Oh, man, why'd you undo those lines?? Here's the problem.

When you undid the steel lines, you undoubtdly bent them somehow. Now, when you try to put them back in, the tube isn't perpendicular to the fuel rail. That means the tube nut isn't perpendicular, either. For instance, what you have now, is:

___ (fuel rail)
\ (tube)

And what you want is:

___ (fuel rail)
| (tube)

And that's how you could mess up the threads on the fuel rail. Right now, there's probably two "cuts" inside the threading of the rail. One cut is the original. One cut is the sideways thread that you made. Try to see if you've bent the fuel line as I showed above. If so, try to straighten the rail.

Keep an eye on how the threads of the tube nut are, compared to the hole in the rail. The threads should be parallel to the rail, not sideways.

At worst, you could remove the metal line from the car's bracketry. That way you can swing the line any way you want, without having to bend the tube. When you get the fitting started (and the threads are even with the rail), tighten the fitting the rest of the way. You might want to stick with using your fingers, for now, to get a better feel.

You should "see" how the crossthreaded fitting looks. Hopefully you'll be able to picture how a perfectly aligned fitting will look. When you see the perfectly aligned fitting, then you could tighten with tools.

And Then, you could reattach the line to it's brackets on the car. Let us know how it goes...

 

You can say that again ! There real bitches !!! lol . I got it in , and Im almost positive it did not leak any gas this time when I cranked it . I dont think it goes in all the way does it ? B/c before I took it out , it was not in there all the way but it was good and tight . Now the bolt on the drivers side is leaking .prabably was leaking before and did not notice it . Id like to talk to the Einstein that invented these gas lines and bolts for our cars ! Atleast its running now , and its not going "pssss" from gas pouring out on the passenger side

 

I had to , there was not enough room to work with it .One of the injectors took me like 30 min to get out .There was no way it would have come out with it in there because I had to jerk it out pretty hard . Plus I wanted to spray the rail with carb cleaner and didnt want it going everywhere .

 

Im almost there , Its running , I just have to fix the line on the drivers side . I dont know when I will get to it gain , because Im at work . Working out of my home .Any suggestions ? But , I have to finish it today sometime .

 

When I did my injectors, I left all lines attached, and just undid the little clips that hold the hard lines to the engine. The whole fuel rail "swung" above my hood latch, because of the rubber hoses.

 

I think my hands are just too damn big to fool around in there lol .

 

hey wayne man can you tell me whast the specs are on those accel fuel injectors? and where did you buy them from?

 

Sure man , they're accel fuel injectors 15 pdrs . I bought them from www.summitracing.com ...part number - ACC-150615 . They cost $173.69 and tack $7.50 on them for handling .

 

Wayne, I had trouble with that very same line. It's a b*tch but it just takes patience and some manuevering. It's best to thread that one in before threading the front connection.

 

are you satisfied with them?

 

Good to see Im not the only one that has problems with it . I thought maybe it was just a "new to working on engines learning experience " . Is that bolt suppose to go in all the way ? Im almost positive when I unscrewed it when I started working on it , it was not in there all the way . It sticks out , prabably a little less than an inch , but its tight ! . I don't want to keep tightning it and screw up something . And i pushed on the fuel line to see how good it was in there , and it would not move , it seems real steady . I feel like this project is taking me forever . Sunday afternoon when I wanted to finish it , the parts store was not open for me to get vacumn lines . Then yesterday I had trouble with the bolts , and was trying to work , same thing again today .Man , I didnt realize how bad my old injectors were , three of the old ones were cracked bad above the O-rings on the areau before you get to the pintle ( spider web cracked to ). I assume these must have been leaking something horrible .

 

Have not ran with them yet . I started the car and let it run for a min today , but when I checked for gas leaks anywhere and found that line not hooked in good and needing a gasket , i cut it pretty quick !

It seemed like for the min it ran , it ran pretty good , but the true test in driving it on the road and driving it for a few years before I really know Im satisfied . I say a few years b/c Id like makes sure they dont clog easy , but I think they will be good injectors !