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Old 12-10-2006, 05:11 PM   #1
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T5 input shaft length

New to the forum, my first post:

I just got a hold of a newer high torque world class T5 I plan to use. Its a 1352-246 out of a 94 v8 mustang GT. From what I have read, though this t5 is extra strong, it has a longer input shaft than the usual t5's. Can anyone confirm this?

If its true, does anyone know what bellhousing I can use behind a sbc...?
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Ah I don't think I ever seen someone make some kind of conversion bellhousing from GM to Ford. Think you out of luck.
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It wouldnt be a ford to chevy conversion, since both are using T5s. I am just wondering if there are chevy t5 bellhousings that have different depths (tranny to block)? I guess I dont know enough about chevy t5 applications...
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They have different bolt patterns on the t-5 case I'am pretty sure.
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I guess I dont know enough about chevy t5 applications...
Or F*rd ones either, evidently...

Yes the T-5 for Chevy and the one for F*rd are IDENTICAL in every way. Except for the bell housing bolt pattern, the splines on the clutch, the shifter location, the transmission mount bolt pattern, the drive shaft splines, and the lack of a torque arm mount on the F*rd case.

So there you go.. exactly the same, exceptly completely different.

The length of the clutch gear (there's no such thing as an "input shaft" on a manual transmission, so I'm guessing that's the part you're wanting to talk about) is just one more minor detail. Doesn't too much matter whether it's the same or not, there's so many others that will keep it from working.
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Or F*rd ones either, evidently...

Yes the T-5 for Chevy and the one for F*rd are IDENTICAL in every way. Except for the bell housing bolt pattern, the splines on the clutch, the shifter location, the transmission mount bolt pattern, the drive shaft splines, and the lack of a torque arm mount on the F*rd case.

So there you go.. exactly the same, exceptly completely different.

The length of the clutch gear (there's no such thing as an "input shaft" on a manual transmission, so I'm guessing that's the part you're wanting to talk about) is just one more minor detail. Doesn't too much matter whether it's the same or not, there's so many others that will keep it from working.
Thx for the enlightenment Soafaking, I know it aint a a direct bolt in for a 3rd gen. I should have mentioned that this is going in a rod, everything is completely fabricated, so the only thing I am concermed about is the "input shaft", I ain't gonna split hairs with you over what you call it, I have always called it an "input shaft", in fact TREMEC refers to it as an input shaft as well...

I planned on using a 3rd gen bellhousing and someoone told me this forum would be a great source of info regarding 3rd gen bellhousings. I am bummed to just get a alot of guys telling me it won't work and not trying to help.

Ill post youi a pic and details of what parts I used when I got this rig set up.

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The biggest thing about a 3rd gen BH, is that it rotates the transmission about 18 or so, toward the driver.

So the shifter pad is rotated, and the trans mount is rotated, and besides all that, the 3rd gen rear suspension requires the torque arm mount.

Now in some kind of a rod, where nothing is really necessarily "stock" and you're fabbing and adapting everything anyway, it might be adaptable without so much trouble; but it would be a WHOLE LOT less trouble with some BH - ANY BH just about - besides a 3rd gen one. Since this is Chevy V8 stuff and not F*rd, ALL BHs are the same depth, from the beginning of time up until the LSx motors. If you used an older or aftermarket BH, with maybe a F*rd clutch disc and drive shaft and shifter, it might not be too hard to deal with the length issue. But I've never tried, so I'm not going to be able to be more definite than that.

It's 100% certain though, that trying to mate the F*rd transmission to the 3rd gen BH, is a train wreck.
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Well, the clutch plate out of the 4 speed tranny that was bolted to my chevy motor, slides right onto the T5 (stnd 10 spline) so I know the clutch pressure plate set up won't be an issue. I beleive all T5 four bolt trans mount locations are the same whether the T5 is from a stang or a camaro (or an S10 for that matter). And I think that 3rd gen camaro bellhousings are pretty much standard. I want the 3rd gen cmarao bellhousing so I could go with an ez hyrdaulic set up. The only crap shoot I am facing it the input shaft cramming too far into the pilot bearing. I was hoping to get some info here concerning 3rd gen bellhosuings. I was unaware that the camaro bellhousings only came with one depth. This is good to know.

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