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Old 05-01-2014, 08:18 AM
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

I'll have some pics up this evening.

I read that if you use 1/4in spacer its okay not to install xtended wheels studs. The one recomended by the OP is 5/16.

I'm gonna try & use a 1/4in.

I dont have anything against extended wheels studs, I just dont have time to get it done this wk. I'm going to that MHTG meet in colorado & I have to leave friday 4a!

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Did you use 5/16 to get a desired look? Or will they not fit properly with anything less?
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

You should be fine with using a 1/4" spacer.

If the OP (original poster) only had 1/16" of clearance with the 5/16" spacer, he has problems.

The only clearance item on the front with these wheels is the end of the tie rod. I know with 18" rims the tie rod end fits inside the wheel, not sure about 17s.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

1st: These wheels look fabulous!

2nd: I will probably end up buying them if wobble nuts will remedy the issue with the difference in our bolt pattern and theirs.

3rd: Why is it so hard to get a company to make these mesh wheels in 18s? Just make the darn things! Is the market that small for these in 18s? I mean damn!
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by Slowridr
1st: These wheels look fabulous!

2nd: I will probably end up buying them if wobble nuts will remedy the issue with the difference in our bolt pattern and theirs.

3rd: Why is it so hard to get a company to make these mesh wheels in 18s? Just make the darn things! Is the market that small for these in 18s? I mean damn!
can get them re drilled usually cost about 25-50 a wheel or do it your self of you have the tools no wobble nut needed

there are 18" versions out there and larger but they are going to be 2 piece wheels and are going to cost at least $1000 per wheel , that's why you don't see them lol , rotiform is one company that I know off the top of my head I'm sure there are others
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Both cars look great! Cant wait to see the others!
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by Slowridr
3rd: Why is it so hard to get a company to make these mesh wheels in 18s? Just make the darn things! Is the market that small for these in 18s? I mean damn!
Problem is that you have to do a lot of engineering to make mesh wheels work - forged or cast - or if you CNC them it takes a lot more machine time to cut them compared to a 5 spoke wheel of the same diameter.

3rd gen wheels have a very specific offset and when you start talking 9.5" wheels, they don't fit much else. So you are almost automatically talking multi-piece wheels that are going to start at $750/each and up.

Yes, the market is tiny for $750/each 18" x 9.5" wheels in a mesh pattern to fit the 3rd gen applications.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

I was gonna say the Firebird guys are going to be all over this, but they already are! lol
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

there are 18" versions out there and larger but they are going to be 2 piece wheels and are going to cost at least $1000 per wheel , that's why you don't see them lol , rotiform is one company that I know off the top of my head I'm sure there are others
Yes I found one in 18" but its only 8" wide. Not as close to the stock GTA wheel as the OG Sans though which is 17". I figured I would throw in 3 pics from left to right Kyowa Mesh, OG Sans, and stock GTA

Problem is that you have to do a lot of engineering to make mesh wheels work - forged or cast - or if you CNC them it takes a lot more machine time to cut them compared to a 5 spoke wheel of the same diameter.

3rd gen wheels have a very specific offset and when you start talking 9.5" wheels, they don't fit much else. So you are almost automatically talking multi-piece wheels that are going to start at $750/each and up.

Yes, the market is tiny for $750/each 18" x 9.5" wheels in a mesh pattern to fit the 3rd gen applications.
So the 1" jump from 17" to 18" starts to present all the problems from an engineering/cost/profit perspective. I figured it had to be something along those lines.
Attached Thumbnails My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)-kyowa-aero-mesh-18x8.jpg   My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)-og-san-17x10.jpg   My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)-gta-wheel.jpg  
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by Slowridr
So the 1" jump from 17" to 18" starts to present all the problems from an engineering/cost/profit perspective. I figured it had to be something along those lines.
Not the size, but the process to make them. Cast wheels require molds and tooling and are only good for an application per run - say 200 of a 18" x 9.5" wheel - too much of a risk to have inventory on the shelf.

But if you can make them at will from different hoops and sections like a 3pc wheel is made, then you can make them as ordered. Of course that type of manufacturing is super expensive and is based on convenience, not volume.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Here is another since I could only put 3 in that post. This one is expensive too. I think almost 3k for 4. They offer our bolt pattern on the wheels though, if I read their info correctly. These come in 19" only by SSR wheels.

By the way I'm itching to see these on a GTA. Is there two guys now with birds waiting to mount the OG wheels on them?
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Slowridr, I sent you a reply. You will love them. Post pics once you mount them. Can't wait to see them on.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by at t 2d
Ordered these wheels for my TTA yesterday, can't wait to see how they look on the car. I went a little different on the sizing and I'll post the details and pictures once we get them on the car.
Would love to see pics.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

so heres my question people keep talking about the spacer but if my math serves me right a 9 inch wheel with 10mm offset should be around 5.325 backspacing. should take much for a spacer on front or rear correct?

downshift which wheel size and offset did you go with because you car looks great.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by ziggy89
so heres my question people keep talking about the spacer but if my math serves me right a 9 inch wheel with 10mm offset should be around 5.325 backspacing. should take much for a spacer on front or rear correct?

downshift which wheel size and offset did you go with because you car looks great.
In general with any wheel
You can run more backspacing than that but depends on a number of things like how much you want to tuck or be flush with fender also rim size and design to include rim specs as there some limitation like front hub etc and among other things also if you want to do inner fender work Also plays a part
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Thanks ziggy89, the set up on front is a 17x9 +10 and rear is 17x10 +15.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

the bolt pattern for our cars is 5x4.75 or in MM it's 5x120.65
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

So where's the bird pics? I'm not seeing them.
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I'm liking the gold wheels man I just finished my new wheels and tire setup. What you think ?
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I'm liking the gold wheels man I just finished my new wheels and tire setup. What you think ?
Those look REAL GOOD. Nice ride too!
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

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I'm liking the gold wheels man I just finished my new wheels and tire setup. What you think ?
If they are Welds don't drive them on the street. A friend broke his 2 fronts on drag week 2 yrs ago.
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If they are Welds don't drive them on the street. A friend broke his 2 fronts on drag week 2 yrs ago.
I had weld draglites. These are summit drag thrust wheels that I painted These wheels aren't hollow
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I had weld draglites. These are summit drag thrust wheels that I painted These wheels aren't hollow
Ok, just didn't want any issues for ya!!
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Thanks man...I feel that it's wrong to take away gold from a gta that's why I got rid of the draglites
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they took the page down...did they stop makeing them i realy want these wheels for my 1992 t/a anyone know a reputable dealer were you can get these
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

If they did stop, that really sucks. I was thinking of these when I replace my tires since I don't think I'll be able to afford Rotiform LHRs any time soon.
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i talked to people on tire rack they have discontinued them
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Bummer, I was not aware they discontinued them. I would have picked up a set of gold ones had i known.
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7 years later these are still in great shape and now for sale. Link below.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...110787029.html
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