fitbmxseries1

i was checking out some car domain and i ran across these head lights i think the idea is pretty good but could use some differnt lines to the lights so they dont stick up
any one else make somthing like this or seen somthing? id like to see some more pics.

True_bird

They just dont fit the lines of our cars very well, I mean all it is, is a custom plastic enclosure with fog lights in it one for high beams one for lows, but if you could get the skinnyer style of lights you could make the enclosure lower and it would probably then look good.

Kyle

Cadillac

Agreed.

85 T/A WS6

Too Jar Jar Binks for me




Recess the lights back more and flush the clears with the hood, then its workin.

A appreciate the effort but it does not quite fit the overall flow of the bird.

83_Camaro_83

Bull

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I'm not feeling it, although I do appreciate the custom work involved.

V8 Slayer

Ewww......

BlueZee28

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it'd look real good if it ran with the lines of the hood. the rounded top doesn't look nice at all. if it was straight it'd be hot

maroon88iroc

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check out redraifs car she has non popup lights i saw some pics of it on this site you can search for it.

z28 NyC

Great idea, really really nice work but doesnt look too good he gets an A for effort

fitbmxseries1

see what i was thinking was like the camaro light cover where its just some plastic over the headlight you could do somthing similar if you pull out the pop up light just get a really thin style head lamp in there and put some lexan or somthing over it....

fb305svs

the problem with anything like this is that the fender doesnt have enough vertical rise to fit a decent size enough light in there to give you enough light, secondly, to fit it inthere, it would have to be way set back, and you would loose any size projection to see the sides of the road...

and lets face it - nothing is going to look good there unless the lense is more or less follows the shape of the original headlight lid...

ScottyRS

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How about this?



Saw it at Turkey Run.

Karps TA

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I think the best method is to buy a Camaro if you don't like the popup lights. The hidden headlights is part of what makes the bird body style. Without it, they would look as dumb as a Camaro with pop up lights.

True_bird

Very well stated and I agree fully!

Kyle

iansane

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I agree with this to an extent. I think I hated popups as an idea when I first got my bird. Tried three different methods of deleting them, style trying to perfect the look. However, Now that I've butchered evreything I realize I don't 'hate popups' I hate OUR popups. Some of the aftermarket kits available for MR2's and Miatas that utilize the 90mm hella headlamps look beautiful and would flow real well in a popup form if someone could get them under our doors. (they'd fit and be smaller than ours which is my main concern). The MR2 kit is several hundred dollars though...

fitbmxseries1

i hate pop up lights when they are up, when they are down thats a differnt story! i know alot of people share this feeling of mine and wanted to see if any one made any cool custom set up

Firebat

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If you could keep the pop-ups and put in those fog lights while making your headlights not pop up as much, it might not look too bad. But still have the pop-ups be operational.

True_bird

Or just get stock lights from a car that are smaller then ours like the grand prix ones


You would just have to find a way to make the motors only pull up the lights that far....

Or you could try to make a pair like this but as stated earlier

It would be very hard to get a wide enough projection of light.

Kyle

Firebat

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the motors are adjustable, my 86 is anyway. But i do see how it would be difficult to get enough light projected.

deadbird

MoroteZ28

i think those lights really ****in awesome actually

jrmaatta

Quite some time ago, I saw a TG Bird (on cardomain) that had pop-up deletes similar to what's posted above. But it was a much nicer, thought-out mod. It was black, and the headlight 'pockets' were yellow (for ***-knows-what-reason). The lenses were pretty flat, followed the existing body very well, and extended to the front edge of the bumper.

iansane

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I remember those. JP-something or other.

Those were ANYTHING but nice. He created a gap between the hood and the lights for better cooling?

The lexan work was okay but the actual light choice and placement was.....not.

jrmaatta

You know what, I do remember that gap now. I forgot about that earlier. If he had gotten rid of the gap, and done something about the leading edge, it woulda been a lot better.

What I would do myself, is have the front edge the same, but bring it in front of the turn signal too, and than have the gaps as tight as possible all around.

fitbmxseries1

you know theres gotta be some sort of ultra light bulb led or somthing thats very small and works wonders out there somewhere... with all this technology and crap that we have these days lol, that could just be slapped right in that small opening and it would look like the raif car but still be able to see at night.

jrmaatta

^ I was thinking about somehow putting LED's into the front edge of the headlight bezel thing. Maybe pour clear plastic or clear epoxy to make it all smooth too? As for a "buy it at the store" I don't think anything exists - it would have to be custom made.

iansane

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The current technology in LEDs is crap for actually lighting stuff up. It's sill easier to run a standard bulb or the HID style. LEDs don't provide enough light output for the heat they create. You'd need a large heatsink assembly attached to an LED array that might be somewhat effective.

jrmaatta

^ In terms of a sole source of 'headlights' than yes. But you could use some LED's as running lights/DRL's, for example.

I like the idea of that shorter-lift headlight with the 90mm HID projectors

raffi4

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Why dont they make LeMans style headlights like they do for the c4 corvettes??? they look pretty damn hott

iansane

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There hasn't been enough of a demand put forth. (read: money) Get someone who can make a few sets and wants to make some money. Suggestion, have 'em start with the hella 90mm headlights.

raffi4

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i wouldnt know where to get someone to start making products let alone find someone that would want it but they llok so nice on corvettes and the set up is very similar but i wouldnt want to mess around with $500+ corvette type headlights trying to fit to a bird.

xlwhellraiser

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The only decent way to go with firebirds styling is to build an enclosure that runs with the lines of the body. Everything else looks off. It just looks like it does not belong there.

Also, I have to ask...
Why don't you guys like the pop up headlights. I have yet to meet a girl who did not get turned on by that.

Wire them so you can control them separatley and wink at them. There ya go!

raffi4

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I like them, though theyre much nicer designed on 98-02 yrs just wanted to be a little different.

jrmaatta

I think a lot of the people that don't like the pop-ups is because they stick up WAY too high If it was designed to use like a 3x5 housing instead of the 5x7 or whatever it is, people probably wouldn't hate it as much.

onesweetta

Those would look cool if you made them in the original headlamp assembly and only had them pop up like 3"

Mr. TurboTA

As of yet,
I haven't seen any decent looking ones yet either.
But, it is nice to see some different versions that people have put onto their cars.
I think they all get an "A" for effert.
Just nothing for me.

George

jrmaatta

Hrm... I've got a good idea for a setup Haven't seen it done yet...

In order to try to do my idea, I will need a lil bit of from board members seeing as I don't currently have a 'Bird or any F-Body for that matter Anyway, I'll need a pair of headlight assemblies, 82-90, to do my retro-fit on Clue: Part of my retro-fit is going to cost a buttload, so I can't spend a lot on the assemblies. Not lookin' for loaners BTW...

Edit: Actually, I just e-mailed a guy in the Classifieds, if he's not asking too much I'll get a set from him to start working on

onesweetta

I will be lookin forward to seein a full write up on this

jrmaatta

^ One of the members I e-mailed wanted $100 w/o shipping I'm waitin' to hear back from another, and checkin' out on E-Bay too.

matt3383

junk yard is the best place to pick those up IMO

jrmaatta

I've decided there won't be a writeup Well, not a "Here's how to make it" writeup that is There will be a "Here's how to buy it" tho It will be using a custom made mold for the F/G, so ya can't really go out and buy the mold anywhere to do it Now I just need to find them headlights... I've got a bid on a bumper too, so I can try to make sure that it will fit correctly and look good.

fitbmxseries1

i saw some on on the site who made their lights only pop up less then 3 inches it looked like. i really like how it looked any idea whos car that is? i belive its a white GTA... but not hundred percent

jrmaatta

Deadbird Thread here

That's part of my inspiration actually

Edit: This pic is from end of Septemer 2003



I'll see if I can find a more recent pic for ya - nope, that's all I could find