[IMG][/IMG] They look good but don't hook up right and there not bright at all any help would be great, maybe I just need the h4 adaptor harness not sure but I know there dangerous driving at night thanks.

Quick fix would be add some fogs. Aftermarket is inexpensive and they work.

The regular beams I don't know what to say.

do not add fogs it wont help.

u fell for that scam.

those headlights are fail. ridicoulous.

since when do u see headlights that have BLACK reflectors. u cant see anything because the light is not being reflected.

and those are NOT PROJECTORS. u want projectors...drop about 400. i kno a site...lmk

just because there is a circle thrown in the middle does not make it a projector.

literraly throw those shits in the garbage, go to autozone, and get some sylvania sealed beam SILVERSTAR lights.
/rant

damn i almost bought them too.. they look great. love the hood and the shaved doors..

Just got em for looks really glad I did because I would have been really mad if I thought they were going to be really good at night are the chrome headlights you can buy are they the same way?

Thanks ,well at least you know not to get the lights oh well, they look good in the day.

I've seen those on ebay and I thought they'd be good and I was thinking about getting them too. Guess I'll buy the clear diamond cut instead

Diamond cut would make sense. If you've noticed ANY headlights that are black, do not have the bulb covered. How is the light supposed to get out on them things without any kind of reflective surface? lol

Edit: They do look mean tho!

Black or chrome, the reflector is the same china junk.

Eric

YUP to be honest thats the best way to explain it.

Damn, what a shame. I actually too was looking into these. I thought they would look great too, glad I held off, actually ordered some brakes instead. Thanks for the post.

where do you get the real projectors for $400??

As far as I know, the real projectors have to be retrofitted. You would need some HID projectors from a BMW, Acura, Infiniti, Lexus, or any other car that was fitted with HID projectors from the factory. Then you retrofit the projectors into a headlight housing for the Camaro. It's more work then what it seems.

Wow that sucks.I bought these for my car too.They do look kick azz though.
Maybe doing the BMW swap is worth it cause that looks hot and its bright as hell.
Sorry I cant help ya out.I guess we both gotta buy something diffrent!

Those are good cheap headlamps to mod for projector retrofitting.They're the same ones i used, but with the chrome reflector.

try some hids. might help. im not cure about that not having a reflection. kinda sucks because they actually look pretty crazy

no do not try hids. they will still be shitty and u will blind everyone

You said H4 adapter? You don't need an adapter, you just have to re-pin the connector, easily done in a couple of minutes swapping the leads around.

Anyway, the low candle power is most likely due to the black housing and the poor lamp fittings used.

If you want HIDs get some proper ones like Hella 90mm modules. They have clear lenses that are shaped for a proper non blinding beam. It's scattered beams that cause the blinding.

dang i was looking at buying these too!

I bought these and they're junk. Cant see anything at night. Caused me to hit a deer. Messed up my whole front end

So am I correct in assuming these will be crap as well?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-X-6-EURO-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHTS-82-92-CHEVY-CAMARO-4X6_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem33564ddc17QQitemZ220491275287QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

And I guess these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CAMARO-1982-1991-1992-HEADLIGHTS-1988-1989-1990_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20ad98fb41QQitemZ140351437633QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

But maybe these might be okay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...Q5fAccessories

Basically, I would'nt trust any of those.Except maybe to use as a "housing" for a real projector.

Why do people buy junk like that?

If you want projectors...but this:





(the custom alu bezel does not come with the 90mm projectors)

What are you gonna mount those on?

yo man i had those black projectors and they sucked i even put some hid's in em and they worked a little better but i still couldnt see. and the lights wouldnt blind no one even with the hid;s and i had the 8000k . best thing is to put em in the trash. and get the diamond cuts or at leats the ones with the chrome backing .....miamiirocz

All you need is a fabricated bucket, these are the same on a C3 vette. The F body ones would be a lot easier to do than these as these follow the body contours. A little bucket with tabs to bolt in the stock location would be all.

Nice, I thought about making my own housing, but didnt feel like spending more much time/money.So i used those fake ebay projectors to mount my projectors.Much easier to adjust them & i didnt have to cut anything on the car.All i need now are some halos....maybe.

Thats good fab work though.Did you make them?

Yes, thanks I may end up making some for the camaro...not 100% convinced it'll look good but I have 72 of those projectors so I gotta do something with them

The light beam is straight as an arrow, you can put a straightedge along the projection on a wall..it's that sharp.

Here's a vid of these things, since the vid I have changed the switching so that when the hi beams are switched on the lows don't dim, they only draw a little current anyway being Xenon lamps.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7372630&hl=en#

What kind of bulb does that projector use?
It looks small enough to fit into those ebay lamps.

Depends on what kind you get. The dedicated Hella Xenon ones are very expensive. I used regular H4 projectors with a H4 retrofit Xenon kit. The projector is 90mm, here are the dimensions

H4, so are those bi-xenon?

Has anyone try the headlamps from Rally Lights?
http://www.rallylights.com/SearchRes...CategoryID=364

I'm thinking of purchasing from them I like 2 choices they have.

1.

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1787

2.

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4069

I like the fact that they look stock and they have them in high and low beam with adapters. What do you guys think about these?

Thanks. Tony.

Welcome to the Firebird world.

No, H4 has nothing to do with Bi xenon H4 is a lamp fitting type Like H1 and such. It's simply the size and shape of the armature. The retrofit I used simply clicks into the H4 socket and it's not a bi xenon type. I have individual Xenon burners on the Hi and Lo beam.

I have those Hella lamps (the 2nd ones) in my 87 and 88. They are normal lamps for use with H1 bulbs. They do have a nice clear lens though. They can be had with or without daytime running bulbs in the lens. I would use them without, with the bulb makes them a little harder to install and you need to run some extra wires. For the rest, it's a bolt in deal.

As for the adapters, you really do NOT!!! need adapters. The H1 pinout is just a little different from the stock sealed beam. All the connections have to move 1 spot. A couple of minuted with a small flatblade screwdriver will do the truck. Pry back the retaining tang in on the spade connector and slide the wires out, when out, push the tang back so it will hook back into place and hold the connector in the socket. Move all of them to the appropriate position and you're done. No need for ugly add on pigtails/adapters and more connections to go south on you (corrosion)



Just remember, that's looking at the back of the bulb, NOT the connector so majke sure you're looking at those properly and don't swap wires.

Twin has this under control... But I just wanted to say I cant believe they even sell those black reflector lights. Seriously????

Almost all of those ebay headlights are ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. The ONLY ones that Ive seen that are decent are the ones from autopal. They are E-Code housings. I have them in my Jeep, and they throw a pretty good beam. They sort of have a cut off, and then instead of a step, they have a flare up and to the right. Its designed for viewing road signs and things on the side of the road, without blinding people. They still arent good enough for HID bulbs...

Ive preached plenty about HID retrofits... If you need bi-xenon, there are good projectors out there for pretty cheap. I have a bunch of Infinity FX-35 projectors that Im using for my TA and eventually my jeep. They're bigger than the Hellas that Twin posted about.

In order to do a proper HID retrofit, you'll have to do some fabricating. Mounting, bezels, lens covers etc. But its not really hard stuff...just need to use your imagination a little. There are a few threads here, and on ls1tech about doing it. Also check out HIDplanet. You'll learn all you need to know.

Here are some pics because Im bored.

I got a set of those "projector" headlights from ebay, just to cut apart because they were the cheapest. Wonder why? I threw in some HID bulbs, because I wanted to see how bad they were. Terrible. Light all over the place, and just look at that glare.



Here's an FX-35 projector next to a 6054 housing, the stock size for firebirds.



This was just seeing how much room Ide need. Obviously nothing was cut out behind the projectors yet.



Without the bucket in place.



Im stalled on my project right now, but Ill probably pick it up in the winter time for something to do while the car is in storage.

J.

I was refering to the projector.Bi-xenon are both hi & lo beam units.Like an H4bulb is both hi & lo in one.By the looks though it appears not to be.I ws asking cause my Daytona uses H4 lamps, but its difficult to find decent "H4" projectors.Ive got Hellas E55 on the bike now, but they use D2S lamps & i had to make an adapter to fit the H4 style HID.
I ve also used those ebay units with Valeo projectors on the camaro.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/au...-inside-w.html (Projector retrofit inside(w/pics))

No, one is hi the other a low beam. Check the vid. Bi xenon is outlawed here.

So do you guys think the lighs that I posted would be great to star of with as in HID'S?

Tony.

might be a good starting point since they don't work worth a damn...might as well cut them up

The cheapest easiet way to improve your cars headlights are Silverstars.After that, then your in HID &/or projector territory.Everything else is a waste of time/money.

Eh...I think there's a step between silverstars and HID/projectors.

Ive had great experiences with the E-code housings. A pair of E-codes, a HEADLIGHT UPGRADE HARNESS...which does wonders even on a stock halogen system, and a pair of good higher wattage bulbs. I ran something like this in my off road jeep for the longest time. Decent beam pattern, LOTS of light on low and even more on high. I got bulbs that were actually higher wattage, not just blue in color or whatever they sell at autozone. Stock bulbs are what, 35/55? Mine were 100/130 I believe. Maybe not that high...but they were bright. I never got flashed, and my Jeep is pretty big. The E-codes do a decent job of creating a cut off...for a non-projector type setup.

Not exactly legal...but neither are most of the other mods we are discussing really.

J.

As an example of what Im talking about. Here is a pic of the E-Code housings beam cut off. Rig is pointing uphill a bit. There is an aiming procedure for E-codes that if you follow, you wont blind a single person.



Notice no rainbox and flares and crap above the cut off? Projector cut off...no. But pretty good for an H4 housing.

Couldnt find a pic of the housing, but it looks like a standard fluted H4 housing, but has a triangular section that gives you the "side of the road" flare.