HamSpiced

when it comes to amps... i need at least 1800 i can get an 1800w rockford for 230 new...

Justins86bird

RF is better then Kenwood. But that 1800 watts for $230 is peak, not RMS. Keep that in mind. I think RF rates peak as 3x RMS. What's the model #?

HamSpiced

i knwo its peak.. it will rms at like 250x2 or so, just perfect for my infinities

my cap will help out too... i dont have an item number off hand

Boomin Boy

are those two companies your only options?? cause i think you could get a much better deal buying online and you have much more selection.

also i wouldnt count on a capacitor helping out too much

HamSpiced

those are the two best companies to go with imho and 230 is cheak for a 1800w amp... dont try to sell em any Lanzar/pyramid ****....u find me a better deal and ill take it

BirdsofPray

Rockford Fosgate is one of the premier car audio companies and have held that rank for years. I've heard a lot of flak, on these boards particularly, concerning the "dubious" quality of Rockford. Frankly, I have heard few plausible reasons that give any sort of credence as to why Rockford is so maligned in most car audio circles.

While I'm a major fan of others, such as Kenwood and Infinity, I've consistently been impressed - even blown away - with the substance and clarity of sound Rockford brings to the table. I will concede, however, that if you're a member of the absolute bass junkies (i.e. hip-hop, rap) there perhaps are better routes than Rockford. After all, I cannot claim to have experienced the performance of every single amp on the market today!

Friend, I would definitely recommend the Rockford amp. I just bought the
Rockford Fosgate Punch 301X, and along with my Rockford subs, my music has never sounded better.

Viva Rockford Fosgate! :hail:

Boomin Boy

well out of those two brands i would go with the rockford but just dont expect anything near 1800 watts out of it.

Kj Rockz

I say \/
this is for you

onebadwagon

kj. the amps that look like that rock, but the newer ones are having durability problems, and are falling prey to the MAX POWER b.s. ratings that have plaged the industry.


adam

blyth18md

you can get a visonik on ebay for near that price that'll put out some killer power. "VISONIK V900XD"

Boomin Boy

the visonik amp will put out way more power than the rockford he's comparing it to. Believe it or not visonik has some world records or atleast they did last season

onebadwagon

but they sound horrible.

demicon

LOL maybe they didn't take distortion into consideration

Kj Rockz

That would be why I would not get one.

HamSpiced

lol Radio Shack carried Visionik liek 2 years ago.....



rockford it is... i too have heard all irate complaints buit none of them held any merit so i overlooked em, ill buy the amp tomorrow thanks KJ, you = T3h M4n as always i get compliments on my setup everytime i show it off... thanks again

HamSpiced

i found a guy selling brand new Kenwood 1800w ampos for 149

score..

Kj Rockz

Kenwood is good, go for it.
If I were to get another amp, it would either be a JBL, or XTant.
Those are really good amps.

I'm sure the Kenwood is nice, I havn't heard many complaints about them, hope everthing goes well.

HamSpiced

it should go well... i just need to get the motivation to run the 4ga wires back... :-/ i hate running that stuff through the firewall..

onebadwagon

why, it's gravy man.

HamSpiced

cause i have to rip out my old stuff, and most of the screws for my panels are rusted so they are a bitch to take off... its just i have a lack of motivation to work on my car after the past fiasco i had...

StevenK

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ummm....remove what?

i took off the passenger side kick panel, the door runner, and that was it.

And getting thru the firewall is a peice of cake if you pick the right spot. My problem has always been to get the *$*^^ grommet to stay in place.

*edit- btw, my amp choice would be earthquake, USAquistics or an older RF......i've heard nothing good about their new line (best buy special i like to call em)

HamSpiced

Thats good, thats your choice

The door runner is to what i was referring to... all the screws are rusted to hell... that is my biggest qualm... it will take me at least an hour to get them out or drill them out...

Screamin'87GTA

Best buy Special is right! Best buy has become the sole providers of Rockford Fosgate...

Viva rockford

Jim85IROC

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Rockford stuff has gone into the toliet. That being said, I think it's still better than Kenwood... but certainly not as good of a value.

BirdsofPray

Please elaborate. What makes Rockford inferior to other car audio companies? I would seriously like to hear your experiences.

StevenK

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The old stuff was much better. The Best Buy specials have a higher failure rate, and are often under-powered when compaired to other brands in the same price range.

That said, some people still love them death, and others would never buy RF ever again.....kinda like flowmaster

NEEDforSPEED

there subs are still good, never toched there amps

Jim85IROC

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I don't think their subs are all that good either. Every new "update" has used cheaper materials than the previous. Their new subs look like Jensen rejects, although I haven't heard them so I can't comment on their capabilities. They just don't appear to have a hell of a lot of quality. Fortunately, most of the real car audio shops don't carry the lower end subwoofer lines that Best Buy does.

Screamin'87GTA

Best buy carries the punch line, not the power line... You should see people complain about how much the punch line costs... And you want best buy to carry higher more costly subs. tee hee

No offense intended... Just wanted to complain about the general public.

Jim85IROC

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Does BB carry the entire Punch line?

A few years ago when I sold Rockford, we carried the HE2, HX2, Power, and whatever newer line replaced the power series.

All that BB sold (at the time), was the HE and the B1G1F garbage line below that.

demicon

I kinda like some of the new line of Rockford as seen on their website.

Some of the amps look nice, as do the subs.

I think they may have realised they were becoming just like sony and are taking steps to solve that.

Mind you have not looked at nor heard anything from the new line of product, but at least the subs look more like Infinity subs than Jensons

Anyone had experience with the new line of equipment yet?

Sorry for the tangent encouragement.

:lala:

35th 02 ss

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I've only used RF and don't have any complaint's to date. I just replaced my whole system last year and still sounds like i just but in there yesterday. I always use RF for the speakers and amps and Pioneer for the HU.

BirdsofPray

Interesting. I wasn't aware of the close alliance with Best Buy and Rockford, but then I rarely enter the store anyway. I've always bought my audio equipment from a locally-owned dealer.

I think my reason for being so keen on Rockford is that I'm not interested in having a competition system. I just want a clear, deep sound that fills the whole of the car even with the tops out - and Rockford Fosgate fills that ticket perfectly.

shortyjmg

RF is good another high quality amp is phoenix gold

demicon

I think I remember hearing or reading somewhere, Rockford bought Phoenix Gold.

Or they merged under rockford's name.. or something.


But yeah, PG amps are good.. nice and clear.

Expensive though.

bm87ta

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My main gripe with RF stuff, at least the amps is the pos and neg terminals being so close together, no external fusing, and they are a pig when it comes to effeiceny(sp)

That being said for the price of a 500 watt rms rockford you can get a memphis 1000d (800w at 2 ohm, 900w at 1ohm) for the same price.

Zerstörer

That is not right. Phoneix Gold does not have anything to do with Rockford.

onebadwagon

call fosgate's customer support number.

HamSpiced

got the amp in and installed... Sound sgreat.. wouldnt go back at all....

Jim85IROC

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This post prompted me to look at the new space-ship looking RF subs at best buy a couple weeks ago.

Garbage. Cheap plastic cones, cheap surrounds, and an overall build quality about as good as I'm used to seeing from chinese woofers.

Rockford has officially fallen into the toliet.

BirdsofPray

Ouch, that's a pretty harsh assessment.

Maybe it is garbage, and if so, it's the best garbage I've ever spent money on.

HamSpiced

i have the Amp upside down cause i need longer power and ground cables...

BirdsofPray

Looks very nice already. I love that amp, by the way.

robsgta

I know for a fact that rockfords quality in amps has dimenished I have two of the old school 400 x 4's pushing my highs wich include (2) horns, (2) 51/2 coaxials kicker and (2) 4 inch coaxials (2) 6 x9 3 ways and (2) satelite highs I used one 200 x 2 for my kicker 12's comp cvr's which is bridged.also with (2) 1000 watt capacitors and two batteries which is a must if you have real power or your system will surge or cut out when it hits hard.I tried 15's in the recomended box by kicker and the system hit so hard I was afraid to do ear damage to my self, the only time I could turn it up is when i was out side the car and thats no fun so I sold them and went back to 12's.I have an alpine 3 disk in dash receiver and a alpine 14 band e q with surround sound feature.
my point was I have good friend who has 3 of the new style rock f amps similiar to my set up and my system stays on all day with out over heating the amps to where his are constantly over heating and shutting off.. In my own words the old school style from the late 90's are the real work horses the ones that phosgate makes now just have the name. I wolud try doing some research on a higher effeciency amp they all have a class rating and I believe phosgate is a c with a being the best...buy a few car audio magazines before you spend big bucks that what i did..

any body and I mean any body can make a car go BOOOM that isnt rocket science but getting a vehicle to sound loud and super clean is the way to go...