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Old 09-10-2011, 09:05 AM
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Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Alright, I know the differences in both... but the constant here is the 3rd gen... Most boxes I've seen are level with the wheel hump... so there is only so much space between the subs and the back deck / window, etc...

I have not heard a lot of 3rd gen's side by side... just opinions, what have you heard and like?

I know ported is harder to get right & I do prefer it, I've heard / made some amazing ported boxes... but I don't have the 3rd Gen experience...

Opinions?

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

while i've always wanted to give ported a chance in a 3rd gen, dimensions are a bear with the funky box shapes we have to build due to the hatch layout. A well built ported will have more output (at the expense of power handling), but much more picky when getting specs just right.

If you've got the right sub(s) and take the time to properly build a ported box, I don't think you'll be disappointed. However, a sealed box is still no slouch and a bit more lax when it comes to getting the size just right
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Back in the day (I have copies somewhere) there was a band pass box design for some Orion 8's... my friends built it once and were happy with it, though I never got a chance to hear it....

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I gave ported a shot before someone rear ended me and broke my box in my old camaro, but now I have ported.

I really liked the ported sound, but I also like my sealed. Pretty much impossible to compare, since now I have 400 more watts and a 12" instead of a 10", different brands, etc. However, I would go ported. I wish I had a picture of the box I made. I'm sure you've seen the sub box thread, what I did before was I had a 10" sub in the centre, with two ports on either side. Looked real badass, had lights in the ports and the tubes running down into the box for a real ported setup.

Now I have a 12" in the middle and 2 6x9's on an angle beside it. Went to the 6x9s (by accident) in this car because it has the stock upgraded sound system which I didn't know, and when I went to go drop some 6x9's in the side panels in the back seat, I saw two speakers.

Bottom line: I'd go ported if you have the room in the box.
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

My car has t tops so i wanted retain the ability to stow them in the back so i built my own seald box, i have it firing right up into the deck window, it hits really hard and my friends with expensive "professional" systems all say they are jealous of mine. i have a 1200W sony amp and 1300W sony 12'' xplod sub with pioneer deck and speakers
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I had a ported box for a bit,it didnt have as much power and wasnt as deep as a sealed box
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Originally Posted by luvofjah
Alright, I know the differences in both... but the constant here is the 3rd gen... Most boxes I've seen are level with the wheel hump... so there is only so much space between the subs and the back deck / window, etc...

I have not heard a lot of 3rd gen's side by side... just opinions, what have you heard and like?

I know ported is harder to get right & I do prefer it, I've heard / made some amazing ported boxes... but I don't have the 3rd Gen experience...

Opinions?

Thanks

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What make and size subs are you considering?

A single 12" ported or two 10" sealed....you wont hear a difference between the tow.

Plus...a ported box will cost more to make.

Confused yet?
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

when your buying $300+ dollar subwoofers, buying 1 and a ported box is cheaper than 2 and a sealed.

You really only have room for 2 ported 10's in a regular sub well box, A few 12's have the right spec's for it.

There's prebuilt boxes (or make it yourself) where it angles upwards toward the back, Get some more cubes that way.

About third gen acoustics, there isn't really any hard evidence for these. Some people say it'll hit the back hatch at the perfect angle and sound amazing, some people say it doesn't

My dream camaro system is 4 SA-8's somehow ported in the back
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Originally Posted by luvofjah
Back in the day (I have copies somewhere) there was a band pass box design for some Orion 8's... my friends built it once and were happy with it, though I never got a chance to hear it....

Thanks Dan!

Raf

My buddy had that same 4th order band pass design in his '88. In all the years I spent in car audio, I NEVER heard a set of 8's hit like that. Absolutely AMAZING!
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Originally Posted by luvofjah
Alright, I know the differences in both... but the constant here is the 3rd gen... Most boxes I've seen are level with the wheel hump... so there is only so much space between the subs and the back deck / window, etc...

I have not heard a lot of 3rd gen's side by side... just opinions, what have you heard and like?

I know ported is harder to get right & I do prefer it, I've heard / made some amazing ported boxes... but I don't have the 3rd Gen experience...

Opinions?

Thanks

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I bought a Super Bass Box ported box with a Solobaric L7 10" speaker with dual 2 ohm voice coils, hooked it up to a Memphis Bell 16-MCH-1300 and I cannot sit in the car when it is turned up. The Super Bass Box fits in the cargo well and allows me to mount the Memphis amp on the front wall of the cargo well. That enables me to keep my T-Top storage area intact.
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I came across my Orion data sheets (it's poor quality, looks like it was faxed many years ago)... I'm going to try that route... of course not with Orion speakers... I tried to "contact" them, but looks like DEI now owns them... I may post those up soon...
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I went with 2-12" JL sealed. Here's pics. Sounds awesome
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

i have a ported truck box from best buy and a custom cover fits great, sounds amazing!!! ported is by far the best sounding i run a 12" mtx 1400w amp sony speakers and tweaters pics on my cardomain site iroczguy15 i can put demensions up if u need them

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Ive had a many sealed boxes in my car and only one ported one.. the ported one was great but was the whole trunk area with one 12 inch sub.. Considering the Horn Effect we get in our hatchbacks, a great air tight sealed box will hit hard and if you make the dimentions good enough with a sub that has a big X-max your gonna be happy.. Heres the box i just made and its perfect and loud as hell. Unless your going to compititions a sealed box is great, cheep, easy to build, you literly cant mess it up. Just my opinion though/......
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Two ported 10's in the back, I need to get a better picure, lol

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

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Originally Posted by Hawk92z-TDZ
Two ported 10's in the back, I need to get a better picure, lol

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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

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Two ported 10's in the back, I need to get a better picure, lol

Trust me, these 10w6 subs hit H-A-R-D...bring aspirin.
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2 w6's and 2 slash amps.... Jesus lol I'm running w1s in an overly done baffle board and I'm perfectly content with that lol not a big fan of ported in our cars only because of port noise, its a pet peeve of mine lol
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

I thought flared round ports 4" or bigger and large enough slot ports got rid of port noise?
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

There are ways to reduce port noise, like angling the edges of a port, or using slot ports, round ports make more noise I'm just not a big fan of ported enclosures with the exception of in a trunk, granted I can't produce the same notes as a ported box but I also don't have any noise in there which is a good trade for be, I built one box for my friends firebird that I liked, it was angled forward with the slot port along the top so it fired towards the open space more

As long as it pounds who cares right? Lol ill stick with my "20th order infinite baffle sealed port enclosure" aka the baffle board maybe when I get some motivation at work ill do a legit fiberglass enclosure I haven't gotten around to doing it because I'm not obligated to like with customers cars
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

WHICH EVER ONE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU ARE SMUGGILING A LIFE-TIME SUPPLY OF EMINEMS IN THE BACK OF YOUR TRUNK AND ALSO THEY ARE FLYING AROUND THE TRUNK CUZ YOUR ON CRACK AND YOU BUILT AN M&M ANTI-GRAVITY MACHINE.
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

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2 w6's and 2 slash amps.... Jesus lol I'm running w1s in an overly done baffle board and I'm perfectly content with that lol not a big fan of ported in our cars only because of port noise, its a pet peeve of mine lol
Actualy they are W7's
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Trust me, these 10w6 subs hit H-A-R-D...bring aspirin.
just a question but what was the cubic ft that you was able to get out of the box for your speakers i'm looking at doing the same thing with 2 10" solo-baric L7's and i wanted to make sure i would be able to build a big enough fiberglass encolsure. I'm deployed in afghanistan right now which is the reason i cannot measure it out myself. Thanx
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I cannot tell you the exact cu, ft. because custom radio shop did the work but know the used the maximum area that was available and it sound great!!!!.
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just a question but what was the cubic ft that you was able to get out of the box for your speakers i'm looking at doing the same thing with 2 10" solo-baric L7's and i wanted to make sure i would be able to build a big enough fiberglass encolsure. I'm deployed in afghanistan right now which is the reason i cannot measure it out myself. Thanx
http://www.kicker.com/L7_subboxes

Measurements are included.

Just remember you probably won't hear a difference between a single 12" and two 10's. A single sealed or ported 12" will definitely fit.
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

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Just noticed that, I should get a pic like that with a copy of a Car Fax report in his hand

Maybe this weekend I'll post up pics of my build on its own thread, I had thought I did but turns out I didnt, I just dont seem to have many pics of it finished, or at night when all the LED's are on

Them W7's do pound hard for only two 10's, origanaly I was gunna go with two sealed 13W7's, glad I didnt now
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Re: Sounds best in Third gen...Sealed or Ported?

Sealed boxes are more accurate, ported boxes yeilds more spl ........you like hard rock,rap,or a mix of both?
Sealed boxes does all music well, ported boxes are "boomy ".....like already stated then see what the available airspace is .around 3-4 cuft in a third Gen. Hth

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