1228708 is finally working 100% tested !!!!!!!!!!
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1228708 is finally working 100% tested !!!!!!!!!!
fo those of you looking for the ultimate undehood ECM. the 1228708 is working. heres what i had to do.
You must use a 1228708 memcal.
the chip must be burnt from 04000 stating adress.
the first 000-3fff must be filled with FF if its not the damn thing will wig the hell out. dont ask me im not sure why yet. its gotta be a restart/ memcal pull up pull down vector thing. but it works
do not hook anything at all peiod to the 1x refernce line at all. it will drive the timme module crazy. here is the pinout for running the 1228708 with $58 code.
Warning this is bench tested and run on one vehicle only
connector function wire color
A1 IAC "a" high blu/wht
A2 IAC "b" low grn/blk
A7 IAC "a" low blue/blk
A8 IAC "b" high grn/wht
A9 Coolant fan relay
A11 Wastegate contol
A22 ECM gound blk
B1 Check Engine Light tn/wht
B5 ALDL SERIAL Orange/ pin M @ALDL
B10 Ignition Run/Start Red
C1 +BATT Orange
C3 Bst/Bypass tn/blk
C4 Mat tan
C5 Sensor ground black
C7 +5v REF gray
C9 EST white
C10 sensor ground black
C12 +5 v REF gray
C15 TPS drk blu
C16 CTS yellow
C22 MAP green
D1 Jumper to D5 inj sense [p/h 4 cyl] blue
D4 Jumper to D8 inj sense [p/h 4 cyl] tan
D7 Fuel pump relay grn/wht
D9 Inj 1@4 lt blue
D12 Ing module ground blk/ed
D12 ECM ground black
D13 REF pulse ing module ppl/wht
D14 Inj drive 2@3 lgt green
D16 + BAT orange
D19 ALDL ground blc/wht
D21 ECM ground black
anyways folks there it is. a pinout that makes a commonly avaiable ECM work. you can find these ECM in 89-93 pontiac grans ams with a 2.3 dohc quad 4 also any other w body with a undehood ECM of a simila models yrs should have the same ECM.
dohc quad 4 2.3 underhood ECM in pontiac buick and oldmobile vehicles.
as stated above all things must be done as so to make it work. im gonna ty to find a way to make it run in bank/bank soon enough. i think all of that is being handled VIA a timmer module on the motherboard. so once i find a good input fo the cam sensor ( which should be a hall effect) with a ref pulse ratio of 2ref pulse per one ef pulse ) a simple single magnet 5v hall effect should work. but im not sue how the $58 code will eact to anothe timmer input comming in. i can only verify what ive tested.
If you do this please add your input here.
Also to convert this into a 730 style pinout simply use the 1227727/1227749 conversion chart available on ludis langens webpages. although the egula 1227749 pinout should wok make sure not to add the 1x ref signla getting it mixed. but it should be plug and play.
Sean out and i hope somebody appreciates this.
You must use a 1228708 memcal.
the chip must be burnt from 04000 stating adress.
the first 000-3fff must be filled with FF if its not the damn thing will wig the hell out. dont ask me im not sure why yet. its gotta be a restart/ memcal pull up pull down vector thing. but it works
do not hook anything at all peiod to the 1x refernce line at all. it will drive the timme module crazy. here is the pinout for running the 1228708 with $58 code.
Warning this is bench tested and run on one vehicle only
connector function wire color
A1 IAC "a" high blu/wht
A2 IAC "b" low grn/blk
A7 IAC "a" low blue/blk
A8 IAC "b" high grn/wht
A9 Coolant fan relay
A11 Wastegate contol
A22 ECM gound blk
B1 Check Engine Light tn/wht
B5 ALDL SERIAL Orange/ pin M @ALDL
B10 Ignition Run/Start Red
C1 +BATT Orange
C3 Bst/Bypass tn/blk
C4 Mat tan
C5 Sensor ground black
C7 +5v REF gray
C9 EST white
C10 sensor ground black
C12 +5 v REF gray
C15 TPS drk blu
C16 CTS yellow
C22 MAP green
D1 Jumper to D5 inj sense [p/h 4 cyl] blue
D4 Jumper to D8 inj sense [p/h 4 cyl] tan
D7 Fuel pump relay grn/wht
D9 Inj 1@4 lt blue
D12 Ing module ground blk/ed
D12 ECM ground black
D13 REF pulse ing module ppl/wht
D14 Inj drive 2@3 lgt green
D16 + BAT orange
D19 ALDL ground blc/wht
D21 ECM ground black
anyways folks there it is. a pinout that makes a commonly avaiable ECM work. you can find these ECM in 89-93 pontiac grans ams with a 2.3 dohc quad 4 also any other w body with a undehood ECM of a simila models yrs should have the same ECM.
dohc quad 4 2.3 underhood ECM in pontiac buick and oldmobile vehicles.
as stated above all things must be done as so to make it work. im gonna ty to find a way to make it run in bank/bank soon enough. i think all of that is being handled VIA a timmer module on the motherboard. so once i find a good input fo the cam sensor ( which should be a hall effect) with a ref pulse ratio of 2ref pulse per one ef pulse ) a simple single magnet 5v hall effect should work. but im not sue how the $58 code will eact to anothe timmer input comming in. i can only verify what ive tested.
If you do this please add your input here.
Also to convert this into a 730 style pinout simply use the 1227727/1227749 conversion chart available on ludis langens webpages. although the egula 1227749 pinout should wok make sure not to add the 1x ref signla getting it mixed. but it should be plug and play.
Sean out and i hope somebody appreciates this.
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Car: 84' Monte
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
what kind of injectors will this thing handle? I need an ecm that will take 8 low impedence 36# turbo coupe injectors.
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Originally posted by funstick
no it will do 4 low impdence injectors. but it can be modified just like a 1227749 to run 8 by changing the fets and the sense resistors.
no it will do 4 low impdence injectors. but it can be modified just like a 1227749 to run 8 by changing the fets and the sense resistors.
So what's with this MEM-CAL thing? I've got a 305 and have 305 MEM-CAL's already modded with 29C256's already inside them. Because of this it looks like I'll just have to use a 7749 right?
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Engine: ZZ4 TPI, LC2 turbo v6
Transmission: several, mostly broken
Originally posted by BMmonteSS
Here's a slightly better question where might one find a DIY guid to changing out the fets?
Here's a slightly better question where might one find a DIY guid to changing out the fets?
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Nice work. but are you confident that your pinouts for C12 and C15 are correct ?
On a few other diagrams C15 is an input and C12 is +5 volts...
I could be mistaken, but on my car the input is on C15
On a few other diagrams C15 is an input and C12 is +5 volts...
I could be mistaken, but on my car the input is on C15
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Originally posted by Justafour
Nice work. but are you confident that your pinouts for C12 and C15 are correct ?
On a few other diagrams C15 is an input and C12 is +5 volts...
I could be mistaken, but on my car the input is on C15
Nice work. but are you confident that your pinouts for C12 and C15 are correct ?
On a few other diagrams C15 is an input and C12 is +5 volts...
I could be mistaken, but on my car the input is on C15
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If the wiper and the +5 volts are swapped to the pot, it will still give a correct reading, but that dosen't mean that the information about the two pins is correct.
I could be completely off here, but I've got several GM diagrams that have it opposite to what you have shown. But it would not be the first time that a GM/Delco wiring diagram was incorrect.
I could be completely off here, but I've got several GM diagrams that have it opposite to what you have shown. But it would not be the first time that a GM/Delco wiring diagram was incorrect.
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Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
Having them reversed will cause excessive current through the pot. at low throttle openings, which means the car is going to eat TPS's over the long term. Might want to double-check to be sure.
My database at work shows C15 as TPS position as well (for a '92 Grand Am.)
My database at work shows C15 as TPS position as well (for a '92 Grand Am.)
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