L98IROCZ1987

Thinking about buying the Tunercat setup. Opinions please

L98IROCZ1987

For OBD1 85-93
Im wondering if the program is windows based that comes with it rather then dos

Tuned Performance

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Go with Tunerpro , TC use to be the only hack years ago it will work in windows.

L98IROCZ1987

So tunerpro is windows based as well?

Tuned Performance

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yes

L98IROCZ1987

Ok thanx for the input, now what hardware should I buy?

Tuned Performance

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for flash eproms you can get moates.net burn2

ibmtech

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I highly agree, Tuner Pro or Tuner Pro RT (real time) for emulation.. I purchased the Moates Autoprom with update and the G1 adapter and it worked great.. Tunerpro is free and just has an annoying window the 1st 10 seconds when you start it..

L98IROCZ1987

Great! Thanx guys, I am excited to get started!

Tuned Performance

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You should really donate and show your support the the diy efi community

L98IROCZ1987

Soo,what all do I need to connect through aldl ?

L98IROCZ1987

Btw i will def support the cause

ibmtech

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The autoprom has a built in connector for the Aldl on a 6 foot cord. Additionally uses another ribbon cable that connects to the ECM for Real-Time tuning while engine is running.

Tuned Performance

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MAX232 type interface serial to uart

L98IROCZ1987

That is perfect,im def getting autoprom

ibmtech

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ok, that was too technical for me.. Mine is a simpler term.. I just boxed mine up as I no longer need it because I had to switch to a new EFI style..

L98IROCZ1987

Im running holley stealth ram - or will be soon I should say. Anyway, are you saying your stuff is for sale?

ibmtech

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I have the Autoprom that was upgraded, 5 chips, the extended cabling, the G1 Adapter and yes, I am getting rid of it as I upgraded to XFI fuel injection. Everything worked great.

ibmtech

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bjankuski

I like Tunercat since it has more supported platforms, but Tuner Pro seems fine and has a scanner with it.

I do lots of tuning on many cars so Tunercat works better for me.

EagleMark

For someone starting TunerCat is much easier. Can buy complete package for your car for tuning, cables adapter etc... Including buying a data logger with it. These are pretty much set to use with ease. But no real editing, you get what's there and it works well.

TunerPro RT has lots more capabilities and can be a daunting first step but once involved will enjoy all the possibilities.

But you can't just make adjustments to your chip/bin file without having data! So with TunerCat you also need a data logger. WinALDL is free but is limited on data. Datamaster is an excellent program but costs more, like TunerCat every different ECM needs an additional definition and then Datamaster needs another definition, each one costs more.

TunerPro RT not only does the chip/bin file adjustments and capable of burning but also has Data logging. There are also built in programs that are all extras on TunerCat. All def files are community built and no cost. You can change them or add to them. Make notes on each parameter you have changed and save that file for that car.

For chips, just bypass all there is to know about the stock chips which need UV light to erase along with a burner. Reliability is an issue as well. Look to Moates for a new EEPROM chip, adapter and burner. With this it's a click of the mouse to erase and program. Chip will erase and burn 100% reliable for 1000's of times.

I'm not sure TunerCat has more definition files? I've never found a gap that needed to be filled? Maybe the def files are not as well developed for a 4 cylinder Corsica, but all well known applications are covered.

In conclusion TunerPro RT will do way more for a lot less money. Learning curve is endless, there is so much in there. Basics are easy to learn. PLEASE support this $1000 piece of software you can use for free by paying the $39. registration fee so the author will continue updates and all can enjoy the benefits!

If you need a hobby and have the time and desire to get into this then by all means enjoy! If life is stressful and your adding chip tuning to the load it won't be a good thing! Pay someone in person to tune the car and move on with life. This is very addictive and also very rewarding. But very time consuming as well.

Now if you know you have time and desire and a little cash to get going then just go for it and get an AutoProm, adapter and TunerPro. If it's for one car only then look into an EBL. EBL is a far superior EFI tuning system, all the capabilities with the simplicities built in!

There's also new ALDL cable coming out soon that will be in the $25 range.

HTH!

ony

will tunerpro rt work on windows7 64bit?

EagleMark

Yes, I've had it on a Windows 7 64 bit for a few years.

ony

THANKS FOR THE REPLY,I DOWN LOADED TUNERPRO RT NOW I NEED A USB TO A 12 PIN CABLE.

ony

tunerpo rt wont eluminat my hardware, so i down loaded tunerpro,i have tuner cat, not tuner cat rt,programmed a chip for a 1227747 4.3 truck with both pro an cats switching from one to the other to check ever thing, new to tuner pro my truck has got the wrong gears in the rear end its a std 5 speed over drive 273 rear end talk about hard to get things right, any way 2 restarts it operates some what smoother(trying to get higher milage, now about 17-20.5 mpg). this is fun has any one got a xdf file for a 7-4288 ecm?

Tuned Performance

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http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-AO

EagleMark

You do need an Emulater for this to work, like an AutoProm from Moates.

anesthes

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Tunercat Realtime. I've tried Tunerpro from time to time and it's OK, but the newer version of realtime tunercat really is nice.

The only downside is that it doesn't perform ALDL logging, however, I'd use datamaster over tunerpro for that also.

-- Joe

ony

what type of emulater are you using?

EagleMark

If you already have a chip burner and cable you can get the Ostrich from Moates.

ony

thanks for the info eagle mark, iam going to have to save up some funds for some hard ware updates, i have got between 12-24 mpg at 65-70 mph average around 18.5. if i get a emulater i can proble get 22mpg and a sleeping kitty 4.3, thanks agian for the info.