84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
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84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
I have a few wiring problems I would like some advice on...
1. Turn signals dont work! neither side flashes, the drivers side indicator will come on and stay lit but the passenger side will not come on at all. The drivers side indicator comes on and stays lit when the parking/headlights are on. Passenger side front turn signal will not turn on with the stalk or the running lights and I have confirmed the bulb is good. All rear lights seem to be working as they should meaning running and brake lights all work.
2. Courtesy lights dont work. All of the bulbs are confirmed good. none of the lights come on with the door or the headlight switch.
3. Hatch release. I have no clue on this one. I am going to try a different switch but I dont know where to go from there.
If anybody has some ideas please share
1. Turn signals dont work! neither side flashes, the drivers side indicator will come on and stay lit but the passenger side will not come on at all. The drivers side indicator comes on and stays lit when the parking/headlights are on. Passenger side front turn signal will not turn on with the stalk or the running lights and I have confirmed the bulb is good. All rear lights seem to be working as they should meaning running and brake lights all work.
2. Courtesy lights dont work. All of the bulbs are confirmed good. none of the lights come on with the door or the headlight switch.
3. Hatch release. I have no clue on this one. I am going to try a different switch but I dont know where to go from there.
If anybody has some ideas please share
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Re: 84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
as for the hatch and interior lights, have you checked the ACC fuse?
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Re: 84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
I thought I checked all the fuses but I will check again to make sure
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I think 2 things have happened here.
1. Sounds like a ground problem. I have had that exact issue with the indicator on the gauge cluster if the grounds are not all working on the cluster, ie fried trace on the back circuit tracing, or had been forgotten to re-attach to the chassis under the dash. The driver side indicator would come on if the lights were turned on. and usually the lights in the cluster were half working and dimmer than usual.
Does the hazard flasher work? Do the lights around the car flash when you put the turn signals on or just stay lit bright/dim?
If the interior lights don't work also, I would bet one of the main grounds for the harness behind the dash is broke, not attached or became corroded and lost connection to the chassis. There is 1 or 2 ( can't remember how many ) that feeds grounds for everything else inside the cabin.
2. If your lights do not flash at all around the car, I think you might have also lost your "tin can flasher" There is 2 flashers, one for the hazard and one for the normal signals. They go bad all the time.
1. Sounds like a ground problem. I have had that exact issue with the indicator on the gauge cluster if the grounds are not all working on the cluster, ie fried trace on the back circuit tracing, or had been forgotten to re-attach to the chassis under the dash. The driver side indicator would come on if the lights were turned on. and usually the lights in the cluster were half working and dimmer than usual.
Does the hazard flasher work? Do the lights around the car flash when you put the turn signals on or just stay lit bright/dim?
If the interior lights don't work also, I would bet one of the main grounds for the harness behind the dash is broke, not attached or became corroded and lost connection to the chassis. There is 1 or 2 ( can't remember how many ) that feeds grounds for everything else inside the cabin.
2. If your lights do not flash at all around the car, I think you might have also lost your "tin can flasher" There is 2 flashers, one for the hazard and one for the normal signals. They go bad all the time.
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Re: 84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
I think 2 things have happened here.
1. Sounds like a ground problem. I have had that exact issue with the indicator on the gauge cluster if the grounds are not all working on the cluster, ie fried trace on the back circuit tracing, or had been forgotten to re-attach to the chassis under the dash. The driver side indicator would come on if the lights were turned on. and usually the lights in the cluster were half working and dimmer than usual.
Does the hazard flasher work? Do the lights around the car flash when you put the turn signals on or just stay lit bright/dim?
If the interior lights don't work also, I would bet one of the main grounds for the harness behind the dash is broke, not attached or became corroded and lost connection to the chassis. There is 1 or 2 ( can't remember how many ) that feeds grounds for everything else inside the cabin.
2. If your lights do not flash at all around the car, I think you might have also lost your "tin can flasher" There is 2 flashers, one for the hazard and one for the normal signals. They go bad all the time.
1. Sounds like a ground problem. I have had that exact issue with the indicator on the gauge cluster if the grounds are not all working on the cluster, ie fried trace on the back circuit tracing, or had been forgotten to re-attach to the chassis under the dash. The driver side indicator would come on if the lights were turned on. and usually the lights in the cluster were half working and dimmer than usual.
Does the hazard flasher work? Do the lights around the car flash when you put the turn signals on or just stay lit bright/dim?
If the interior lights don't work also, I would bet one of the main grounds for the harness behind the dash is broke, not attached or became corroded and lost connection to the chassis. There is 1 or 2 ( can't remember how many ) that feeds grounds for everything else inside the cabin.
2. If your lights do not flash at all around the car, I think you might have also lost your "tin can flasher" There is 2 flashers, one for the hazard and one for the normal signals. They go bad all the time.
I solved 2 things today Courtesy lights and the hatch button. The courtesy lights ended up being the ACC fuse being corroded out and the hatch button just went bad I guess.
As far as the blinkers go, the lights do not blink at all. The instrument cluster is fine because the exact same problem is happening to both instrument clusters I have been working with. I am not sure about the hazards I havent tried that yet. I am going to try messing around with it in a few days when I dont have to work, hopefully with a new flasher and some luck I will get things working again.
THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS!
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You can replace the main flasher with the hazard flasher as a test, assuming the hazard still works too. I still think you have a ground problem to the cluster. If both clusters light up the same, then I would think it's a ground wire. Seems like when my flasher went bad the signals on the cluster didn't work period.
Perhaps the flasher is shorted out causing some kind of strange feedback that simulates a bad ground to the cluster.
Perhaps the flasher is shorted out causing some kind of strange feedback that simulates a bad ground to the cluster.
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Re: 84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
You can replace the main flasher with the hazard flasher as a test, assuming the hazard still works too. I still think you have a ground problem to the cluster. If both clusters light up the same, then I would think it's a ground wire. Seems like when my flasher went bad the signals on the cluster didn't work period.
Perhaps the flasher is shorted out causing some kind of strange feedback that simulates a bad ground to the cluster.
Perhaps the flasher is shorted out causing some kind of strange feedback that simulates a bad ground to the cluster.
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Re: 84 Trans am wiring glitches? help please!
Yes, I had similar experience with clusters if the ground to the cluster was not connected, one of the signals on the cluster would come on bright if i either had the brake on, or the park lights on. Usually though, the gauges would go kinda funny, like the temp would to as high as the needle would go when the park lights were on. There is strange feedback that happens inside of the cluster when certain grounds are missing.
I am not familiar with digital clusters, my experience is solely with analogs so perhaps things are a bit different. Perhaps the digital require a special flasher? I use electronic flashers as the primary and just use the cheap can flashers for the hazards since they are almost never used.
What ever the problem, sounds like you are fixing to have a lot of fun with it!
I am not familiar with digital clusters, my experience is solely with analogs so perhaps things are a bit different. Perhaps the digital require a special flasher? I use electronic flashers as the primary and just use the cheap can flashers for the hazards since they are almost never used.
What ever the problem, sounds like you are fixing to have a lot of fun with it!
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If the flasher swap does not fix the problem, I think if it was me, the first thing would be to pull a wiring diagram of the dash harness, find the grounds /pin out connectors that go to the cluster, and get out a DVOM with an audible tone and verify that each ground wire/pin at the cluster connectors are in fact getting a chassis ground. The problem exists at or past the gauge connectors and just checking the hots and grounds is a good place to start.
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