snapsmagee2000

HEY HEY HEY GREAT NEWS I JUST FOUND A1969 427 BB WITH COPO HIGH PERFORMANCE HEADS ON IT .679 LIFT CAM PUSHRODS AS THICK AS MY PINKIE FINGER POLYLOCKS ON THE ROCKER ARMS AND 11:1 COMPRESSION PISTONS! I FOUND IT IN MY NEIGHBORS BARN HE SAID I COULD HAVE IT SO I DROPPED IT IN ME AND MY DADS 69 CAMARO HAD IT DYNOED AND IT MAKES 550 HP & 490 FT LBS. OF TORQUE AT 5500 RPM. WELL SINCE HIS CAR IS BEING RESTORED FROM FRAME UP BACK TO ORIGINAL SPECS HE SAID I COULD HAVE IT AND PUT IT IN MY CAR SO NOW I FINALLY HAVE A CAR WORTHY OF RACING AND JUST BRAGGING ABOUT.......... sorry about the bragging I had to its really exciting for a 16 year old kid

Sonix

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trouble a brewin'

rocluvr0013

that should be worth some money ...

AlkyIROC

Is the block or heads aluminum?

raptor80dad

do the heavy pedaling at the track not on the street and enjoy your find safely.:just my 2cents:

ljnowell

BS!

the_am_man

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Whats the max torque?

It usually is made lower in the powerband, not at the redline.

sounds fishy.......

ljnowell

it doesnt sound fishy, it is.
#1 you just dont find those engines laying in barns anymore. They are all "found up", lol.
#2 Its highly unlikely that this engine is 30 years old and runs absolutely flawlessly after sitting in a barn for years, and is ready to be "thown in" to a car.

BS.

Daz

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jealous?

ljnowell

dont i wish.

This story is like something you would find in a gearheads hallmark card. I know there are lots of 500hp engines just sitting in barns all over, lol.

Irockz

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Trust this guy,he knows EVERYTHING.

Daz

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yup

knows everything but has nothing....just like me

CarterCarbureto

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ljnowell

This is coming from the guy that has 200+ 8500 RPM passes on a stock 400 cast crank.

Trust him, he knows a lot more about BS than all of us put together.


Exactly, but Im not chinadian.

305q_ta86

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I'm glad that when I was 16 all I had were my '87 v6 Firebird and my '87 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z.. Anything faster and I'm sure I'd be dead right now.

iroc22

If you sold the 427, you could build up a nice 383 or 400 and have money left over. Sell it to the collectors.

snapsmagee2000

i dont want to sell it because eventually i want to find a car like my dads to rebuil and when i "found the engine" it was still in a car i beleive it was a chevelle. but the engine is all cast iron which if u guys new aything about copos then u would know that only ZL1 were all aluminum and the cast iron blocks were in yenkos
but as for the power its just an estimated dyno on an old machine its probably off but thats what it said

Quoting ljnowell " it doesnt sound fishy, it is.
#1 you just dont find those engines laying in barns anymore. They are all "found up", lol.
#2 Its highly unlikely that this engine is 30 years old and runs absolutely flawlessly after sitting in a barn for years, and is ready to be "thown in" to a car.

BS." u do find engines lying in barn and the are ready to go and if u havn't then sorry about ur luck but as for those lucky few who do find them u shouldnt diss them for what u dont have and by the way 427 came with 425-430 horse from the factory with an intake carb and cam along with some headers u can deffinatley get it well over 500 horses

Mcdamit

ummm... I have found my fair share of 427's lying in barns, warehouses and ****, but never anything that didn't require a total rebuild and generally most people who own a 427 Copo engine dont give it away for free, anyway. If you would like to sell the engine if the numbers match I have a friend with a 69 COPO Camaro without the original engine. He has been hunting for one for years but due to there only being 69 engines built then I would have to say we have found the stolen engine.

ljnowell

Sorry, you dont find a USED 30 year old engine in a barn, and it be in perfect shape and ready to run and put down 500hp. Its not what the engine came with, its what after 30 years it has left.

You may find an engine in a barn, but you wont find it in perfect shape. Post pics and dyno slips, with you in the pics and its true. Otherwise its another BS internet story.

snapsmagee2000

ok ur just being a **** now and the engine can have 500horses after 30 years after all it sat so if u just clean it up and get it to run then it can make 500 horses

Mcdamit

wow real big engine.. small *** pic..

I honestly dont believe you, and I can't even Identify the block in their from the size of the pic.

84firebird383

I thought I'd post this thread from my home page from last winter that shows that there are still treasures to be found,but They definelty come at a price.I have a hard time believing that someone would have a COPO 427 sitting in there barn and not know what it is or what its worth.I have an even harder time believing they would just give it away.Who in there right mind would just give away a 550HP bigblock out of a chevelle wether its a COPO or not.I would also like to know how you know what cam and pistons are in it if you never had it apart?ljnowell is right. You don't just drop a motor in a car that hasn't been started in 30 years.Wisconsin Street Dominators - HOLY SHEEPSHT!!!! What a FIND!!!!!!!

badCHEVELLEman

think you could get the chevelle from him to, id be willing to buy
is it a copo also???

Air_Adam

COPO engine - maybe, maybe not... BUT the engine in his pic is a BBC, has an aluminum intake, and a dual feed Holley on top. I can tell you that for certain.

Daz

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hahahahaa

hey what happened to your brother...tell him to post on the other side

snapsmagee2000

bigger pic

ljnowell

He's been working as much as I have been, but Im sure we'll make it back around to causing trouble over there.


Sorry man, not trying to be a ****, just pointing out some BS. An engine doesnt sit for 30 years and pump out 550hp after. It wont happen. Doesnt happen. You have been called out. Posting a pic of a random BBC doesnt cut it either.

THEGENERAL

post up the engine casting #s

89TPI350

right on man. I also found an engine in some old ladys yard sale. It happened to be a brand new LS7 and I bought it for a dollar, along with some used shoes and a broken lamp shade.

I don't know if I believe it or not. Why would somebody lie to a bunch of people over the internet? its just dumb and makes me angry

SDIF

Who cares?

He is not asking anyone to buy stock.

Reminds me of a story about my friend from Clemson.

He was on the Opra Show. The show was about Ghosts.

The question to the addiance was...
Do you believe in ghosts? 1/2 the audiance put there hands up.
Have you ever seen a ghost? 10 hands still up.
Have you ever had sex with a ghost His hand still up

Audiance call bs.

He said no! It was true! He had had sex with a goat.

Irockz

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Um,OK.That was a very nice story.YA FRICKIN' WIERDO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knyghtmare

Why did you bring this dead thread back.

THEGENERAL

as if it is any of your buisiness anyway but......


I havent been on the boards in more than 3 months had some catching up to do.

305q_ta86

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I was also going to make a threadmining comment.

StreetRoc85 350

Yall need to chill the ***** out. (please pardon my french kind moderators)

If this kid thinks he has a COPO 427 then let him have his fun, how does it affect you if its real or not? Why try to flame him for it? For all we know it could possibly by the laws of physics be a 427 COPO. Now is it possible by the laws of probability, probably not, but still not impossible. All we know for sure is this kid came across a big block and hes excited about it. Why are yall trying to spoil it for him? Its like telling a retarded kid that theres no santa claus just to watch him cry.

Besides, what if it is a real COPO? I dont know about yall but sometime soon theres going to be a wrecked camaro on the side of the road in Ohio and we need to go and find us a COPO 427 of our own!

ljnowell

nothing to do with it being a COPO or not. Its all about lying to total strangers for no reason. 30 year old valve springs arent going to hold up. At all. Nor will rings that have rusted to the cylinder walls for 30 years. Its just not possible. In any way, shape, or form. Its BS, top to bottom. Reminds me of my 1st wife.

Matthew91-Z28

Just noticed that it was never stated that the engine hasnt been fired up in thirty years. Heck I have a 15 yr old engine with 200K on it that fires up every day!

Maybe the chevelle was still being driven until a few years ago. It could have just been a weekend cruiser for a while that the owner parked. We dont know enough of the story.

I will tell you this though: 99% of the population has no idea what a 427 copo motor is, or what the difference between a big block and small block is. The fact that this neighbor has a chevelle sitting in a barn with no resto plans (if he's giving the engine away) demonstrates he probably doesnt know what he's dealing with, anyway.

But this is a like a gear head's bed time story though. "please, tell me the one about the 427 copo in the barn again!". Ahhh....we can all dream cant we?

StreetRoc85 350

I totally agree with what your saying about the motor being too old and worn to perform like a real COPO, it just seems to me that everyone is trying to flame this kid just because he thinks its a COPO which is stupid since none of us have actually seen the motor he has. I agree its very unlikely that it is a true COPO, but then again this guy is 16, and obviously new to car crafting. We need to help him out and teach him, not attack him for being ignorent. Dont take this personally LJ, im just trying to help him out.

sofakingdom

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This whole post is a re-hash of an "urban legend", that's been going around the hot-rodding world since before Al Gore invented the Internet; and has been around the whole Net at least 2 or 3 times since then. I think I've seen it on this very board before, but I could be mistaken; might have been some other board.

There's no point in replying to it, either to encourage or to flame or defend or whatever; any more than there's a point in sending money to somebody to help find the missing girl from Pittsburg or wherever it is, that all my e-mail boxes have been getting spammed with lately. The motor doesn't exist, the guy doesn't have it, it didn't happen; all it is, is an amusing tall tale. Entertainment, not news.

Hopefully this post will be allowed to die and disappear, like it deserves.

super_nova_71

oK BUDDY!,
post some pictures of the casting numbers on the heads and the vin pad on the block. I really don't think some one would give that stuff away.
To a person restoring a COPO car, they would pay top dollar for them. For instance- 69 Z28 302 cross ram intake and matching carbs went for $15K on Ebay.
Hell, I ran across a guy selling an LS6 454 still in the original crate from the 70's for $10k

And the fact that it ran. Did you pull it apart? or did you just gas and go.

amerikan_rhino

From the pic it is a bbc .. The only way to seal the deal that its a COPO is to post casting numbers off the block and heads (and try and show pics of them off the block and heads also to prove it 100%) Chances of finding such deal are rare (it could happen!) But I would suggest tearing it down and having it gone thru as the cylinder have already probably rusted over as well as bad seals in the heads and vavles rusting up etc ... bearing are probably no good by now and whatnot as well (and not to memtion the ignition and gas in the carb! lol) I mean weather is gonna play into effect with something cast iron that had sit in a barn for 30 years.