Possible LT1 engine.
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30 over cam --- no such thing he had the block bored 30 over and maybe has a cam if he told you it was a 30 over cam he didnt have a clue what he was talking about and if the block was bored over then he would have gotten pistons and did alittle more to the motor
just for the sake of it maybe he got a truck engine 350 tbi and put it in it maybe even a 1500 LT (maybe where he got the lt1 from) "yeah jimbo thats one of them lt ones"
and as my old shop teacher told me way way back in the day when I got my RS 305tbi camaro if you consider your grandma pushing you in a shopping kart fast then its fast but until you really know what fast is you will believe it is
just for the sake of it maybe he got a truck engine 350 tbi and put it in it maybe even a 1500 LT (maybe where he got the lt1 from) "yeah jimbo thats one of them lt ones"
and as my old shop teacher told me way way back in the day when I got my RS 305tbi camaro if you consider your grandma pushing you in a shopping kart fast then its fast but until you really know what fast is you will believe it is
Just re-read this it makes perfect sense
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well I just got the thing off the block it said GM 5.0 so im guessing its just a 305 for now... So they either didn't know what an LT1 engine is or just lied to me.. Idk what the point of lying would be though I didn't spend to much on the car lol. I dont know what year he said..
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well the clanking could possibly be a U-Joint but that would only make noise in drive or reverse. it could be an engine knock if it does it while idling, could be an exhaust leak or even a bad lifter. Heres another question, where are you located maybe someone close by could stop and help you out
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well the clanking could possibly be a U-Joint but that would only make noise in drive or reverse. it could be an engine knock if it does it while idling, could be an exhaust leak or even a bad lifter. Heres another question, where are you located maybe someone close by could stop and help you out
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not an insult but, basic knowledge is needed and you need to get it. We're going to use acronyms and terms and you need to understand at least where in the vehicle we are discussing
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...mies&x=17&y=18
if your dad, uncle, girlfriends dad, high school teacher whomever is knowledgable, maybe they will take 15-20 minutes and go over what the items are under the hood, under the car and their purpose. It need not be detailed.
Then, buy them a Subway and a drink, it would be money well spent.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...mies&x=17&y=18
if your dad, uncle, girlfriends dad, high school teacher whomever is knowledgable, maybe they will take 15-20 minutes and go over what the items are under the hood, under the car and their purpose. It need not be detailed.
Then, buy them a Subway and a drink, it would be money well spent.
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hold on!!!!!
clanking??? what clanking? did I miss something?
I feel for you. You've learned a valuable lesson that you must bring a knowledgable person with you when looking at used vehicles and you can't buy with emotion. You were told LT1 engine when it's a plain jane LO3 and now you have a clanking?????
please describe in as detailed as possible what exactly is going on.
Is the vehicle even on the road? How does it ride? How does it track? How does it shift?
We're here to help you but you are our eyes and ears and you need to get up to speed as quickly as possible.
Sure, maybe you got a screwing by the seller but time will pass and the vehicle will live again.
We parents might be pains in your butt but our experience is valuable and you really need to enlist our services or risk spending way too much for goods and services because many of us learned the hard way.
clanking??? what clanking? did I miss something?
I feel for you. You've learned a valuable lesson that you must bring a knowledgable person with you when looking at used vehicles and you can't buy with emotion. You were told LT1 engine when it's a plain jane LO3 and now you have a clanking?????
please describe in as detailed as possible what exactly is going on.
Is the vehicle even on the road? How does it ride? How does it track? How does it shift?
We're here to help you but you are our eyes and ears and you need to get up to speed as quickly as possible.
Sure, maybe you got a screwing by the seller but time will pass and the vehicle will live again.
We parents might be pains in your butt but our experience is valuable and you really need to enlist our services or risk spending way too much for goods and services because many of us learned the hard way.
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hahah I really appreciate the help! This is exactly what I wanted, but I fixed the problem. The valves were loose. Really really really loose =D I tightened them up and bam it runs perfectly even switching into reverse and drive is a lot smoother now. Its not on the road yet just because when I bought it it wasn't in to good of shape. Well with the knocking and all that so I was a little iffy about driving it yet. All I need now is tires and Im getting them next friday (and registration, etc.). I have big plans for this car been wanting a Camaro since I was a kid.
Oh another issue Im having is in another post: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ttom-pics.html
But I drove it one time and that was from St. Pete back to Clearwater where I live which really is not that far. But even with it being all messed up it still ran great, until I ran out of gas and the battery wire almost lit on fire. They everything all "rigged" in the car. So I took like 15 mins out of my life to go buy a new battery with terminal wires as soon as I turned my car on it was like giving it new life. The air/heat came on and was blowing strong (it didn't even work before), and my car starts right up. I don't think they knew to much. I pulled the engine codes and it told me I needed a temp sensor so I bought one because it was broke and it started running even better (smoother) Except for the clanking. Which they told me was my exhaust because they ran into something and bent it, so I have to bend that back. But my exhaust is pretty secure on there so that got me worried. Yesterday I just took the valve covers off to get the GM 5.0 off the block and called my one friend over ( he has knowledge in motors and stuff like this just not to good with all the electrical stuff. Hes more of a boat motor guy but he moved my valves around an they were loose. The 6th cylinder intake and exhaust were really loose. It felt like there was no tension at all, so I followed my haynes manual tightened them and started it up and I accidentally put one on to tight and it ran horrible for a second but I loosened them all a quarter of a turn and started right up better than it probably ran in a while. This is the coolest thing ever because I thought I was gonna have to take the engine all apart. ( I would like to do this but not to this engine I would like to actually buy an LT1 or just a 350 and put it together like a kit Im sure they sell them somewhere.)
I think they just wanted to get rid of the car. They lied about an LT1 engine but I didnt really pay for an LT1 car, I just payed for a used car pretty much. They probably thought it was about to blow (because he said his mechanic did some engine work Im assuming didn't tighten the valves correctly or missed one because 6 was just crazy loose.) Then he gets it back and thinks its done. You could also tell its been sitting for a while because the tires were pumped up when I got there and not even 20 mins after leaving there they started deflating haha. He was originally at 1800 and I got him down to a 1000 but he wasn't too hesitant I kinda wish I asked 900-950 at least I would have had enough money left over to buy some tires.
What size tires should I get (I have to buy used for now so idk if they will be there). I want my car to look like a muscle car and I just bought this one tire and it looks littler than all the others so Im just going to buy 4 used ones but need to know a nice size.
Thank you.
Oh another issue Im having is in another post: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ttom-pics.html
But I drove it one time and that was from St. Pete back to Clearwater where I live which really is not that far. But even with it being all messed up it still ran great, until I ran out of gas and the battery wire almost lit on fire. They everything all "rigged" in the car. So I took like 15 mins out of my life to go buy a new battery with terminal wires as soon as I turned my car on it was like giving it new life. The air/heat came on and was blowing strong (it didn't even work before), and my car starts right up. I don't think they knew to much. I pulled the engine codes and it told me I needed a temp sensor so I bought one because it was broke and it started running even better (smoother) Except for the clanking. Which they told me was my exhaust because they ran into something and bent it, so I have to bend that back. But my exhaust is pretty secure on there so that got me worried. Yesterday I just took the valve covers off to get the GM 5.0 off the block and called my one friend over ( he has knowledge in motors and stuff like this just not to good with all the electrical stuff. Hes more of a boat motor guy but he moved my valves around an they were loose. The 6th cylinder intake and exhaust were really loose. It felt like there was no tension at all, so I followed my haynes manual tightened them and started it up and I accidentally put one on to tight and it ran horrible for a second but I loosened them all a quarter of a turn and started right up better than it probably ran in a while. This is the coolest thing ever because I thought I was gonna have to take the engine all apart. ( I would like to do this but not to this engine I would like to actually buy an LT1 or just a 350 and put it together like a kit Im sure they sell them somewhere.)
I think they just wanted to get rid of the car. They lied about an LT1 engine but I didnt really pay for an LT1 car, I just payed for a used car pretty much. They probably thought it was about to blow (because he said his mechanic did some engine work Im assuming didn't tighten the valves correctly or missed one because 6 was just crazy loose.) Then he gets it back and thinks its done. You could also tell its been sitting for a while because the tires were pumped up when I got there and not even 20 mins after leaving there they started deflating haha. He was originally at 1800 and I got him down to a 1000 but he wasn't too hesitant I kinda wish I asked 900-950 at least I would have had enough money left over to buy some tires.
What size tires should I get (I have to buy used for now so idk if they will be there). I want my car to look like a muscle car and I just bought this one tire and it looks littler than all the others so Im just going to buy 4 used ones but need to know a nice size.
Thank you.
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Oh wow forgot about my whole vin issue. Saying I have a Z28 when other people are saying its not a Z28.
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hahah I really appreciate the help! This is exactly what I wanted, but I fixed the problem. The valves were loose. Really really really loose =D I tightened them up and bam it runs perfectly even switching into reverse and drive is a lot smoother now. Its not on the road yet just because when I bought it it wasn't in to good of shape. Well with the knocking and all that so I was a little iffy about driving it yet. All I need now is tires and Im getting them next friday (and registration, etc.). I have big plans for this car been wanting a Camaro since I was a kid.
Oh another issue Im having is in another post: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ttom-pics.html
But I drove it one time and that was from St. Pete back to Clearwater where I live which really is not that far. But even with it being all messed up it still ran great, until I ran out of gas and the battery wire almost lit on fire. They everything all "rigged" in the car. So I took like 15 mins out of my life to go buy a new battery with terminal wires as soon as I turned my car on it was like giving it new life. The air/heat came on and was blowing strong (it didn't even work before), and my car starts right up. I don't think they knew to much. I pulled the engine codes and it told me I needed a temp sensor so I bought one because it was broke and it started running even better (smoother) Except for the clanking. Which they told me was my exhaust because they ran into something and bent it, so I have to bend that back. But my exhaust is pretty secure on there so that got me worried. Yesterday I just took the valve covers off to get the GM 5.0 off the block and called my one friend over ( he has knowledge in motors and stuff like this just not to good with all the electrical stuff. Hes more of a boat motor guy but he moved my valves around an they were loose. The 6th cylinder intake and exhaust were really loose. It felt like there was no tension at all, so I followed my haynes manual tightened them and started it up and I accidentally put one on to tight and it ran horrible for a second but I loosened them all a quarter of a turn and started right up better than it probably ran in a while. This is the coolest thing ever because I thought I was gonna have to take the engine all apart. ( I would like to do this but not to this engine I would like to actually buy an LT1 or just a 350 and put it together like a kit Im sure they sell them somewhere.)
I think they just wanted to get rid of the car. They lied about an LT1 engine but I didnt really pay for an LT1 car, I just payed for a used car pretty much. They probably thought it was about to blow (because he said his mechanic did some engine work Im assuming didn't tighten the valves correctly or missed one because 6 was just crazy loose.) Then he gets it back and thinks its done. You could also tell its been sitting for a while because the tires were pumped up when I got there and not even 20 mins after leaving there they started deflating haha. He was originally at 1800 and I got him down to a 1000 but he wasn't too hesitant I kinda wish I asked 900-950 at least I would have had enough money left over to buy some tires.
What size tires should I get (I have to buy used for now so idk if they will be there). I want my car to look like a muscle car and I just bought this one tire and it looks littler than all the others so Im just going to buy 4 used ones but need to know a nice size.
Thank you.
Oh another issue Im having is in another post: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ttom-pics.html
But I drove it one time and that was from St. Pete back to Clearwater where I live which really is not that far. But even with it being all messed up it still ran great, until I ran out of gas and the battery wire almost lit on fire. They everything all "rigged" in the car. So I took like 15 mins out of my life to go buy a new battery with terminal wires as soon as I turned my car on it was like giving it new life. The air/heat came on and was blowing strong (it didn't even work before), and my car starts right up. I don't think they knew to much. I pulled the engine codes and it told me I needed a temp sensor so I bought one because it was broke and it started running even better (smoother) Except for the clanking. Which they told me was my exhaust because they ran into something and bent it, so I have to bend that back. But my exhaust is pretty secure on there so that got me worried. Yesterday I just took the valve covers off to get the GM 5.0 off the block and called my one friend over ( he has knowledge in motors and stuff like this just not to good with all the electrical stuff. Hes more of a boat motor guy but he moved my valves around an they were loose. The 6th cylinder intake and exhaust were really loose. It felt like there was no tension at all, so I followed my haynes manual tightened them and started it up and I accidentally put one on to tight and it ran horrible for a second but I loosened them all a quarter of a turn and started right up better than it probably ran in a while. This is the coolest thing ever because I thought I was gonna have to take the engine all apart. ( I would like to do this but not to this engine I would like to actually buy an LT1 or just a 350 and put it together like a kit Im sure they sell them somewhere.)
I think they just wanted to get rid of the car. They lied about an LT1 engine but I didnt really pay for an LT1 car, I just payed for a used car pretty much. They probably thought it was about to blow (because he said his mechanic did some engine work Im assuming didn't tighten the valves correctly or missed one because 6 was just crazy loose.) Then he gets it back and thinks its done. You could also tell its been sitting for a while because the tires were pumped up when I got there and not even 20 mins after leaving there they started deflating haha. He was originally at 1800 and I got him down to a 1000 but he wasn't too hesitant I kinda wish I asked 900-950 at least I would have had enough money left over to buy some tires.
What size tires should I get (I have to buy used for now so idk if they will be there). I want my car to look like a muscle car and I just bought this one tire and it looks littler than all the others so Im just going to buy 4 used ones but need to know a nice size.
Thank you.
please start a thread in the engine tech section
anyway
grab a multimeter from somewhere or someone
measure the voltage between your positive and negative battery terminal. Let's say you measure 12.3 volts
then, measure it with the engine running. If it remains 12.3 volts then either
A; bad alternator
B: no wire going from alternator to the positive connector block near the radiator
that might explain why no accessories were working, you didn't have enough voltage and were running off of the battery.
You should be reading over 13 volts when the engine is running
tires- we have no clue what rims you have so go read the sidewalls and buy the same size
nextag.com is a great place to compare prices
and I'm waving to you from Sarasota
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Re: Possible LT1 engine.
Carfax WILL NOT be able to tell you if the car is a Z28 or an Sport Coupe/RS. Being it's a TBI car, it can be either. This was all explained in his other thread. If it has the small spoiler on it instead of the 3 piece, assuming it is stock, it is not an IROC as that spoiler was not available on the IROC. There is no "Z28" in 88, only the IROC. Z28 was the RPO for the IROC package, but the separate Z28 and IROC package was dropped after 87.
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please start a thread in the engine tech section
anyway
grab a multimeter from somewhere or someone
measure the voltage between your positive and negative battery terminal. Let's say you measure 12.3 volts
then, measure it with the engine running. If it remains 12.3 volts then either
A; bad alternator
B: no wire going from alternator to the positive connector block near the radiator
that might explain why no accessories were working, you didn't have enough voltage and were running off of the battery.
You should be reading over 13 volts when the engine is running
tires- we have no clue what rims you have so go read the sidewalls and buy the same size
nextag.com is a great place to compare prices
and I'm waving to you from Sarasota
anyway
grab a multimeter from somewhere or someone
measure the voltage between your positive and negative battery terminal. Let's say you measure 12.3 volts
then, measure it with the engine running. If it remains 12.3 volts then either
A; bad alternator
B: no wire going from alternator to the positive connector block near the radiator
that might explain why no accessories were working, you didn't have enough voltage and were running off of the battery.
You should be reading over 13 volts when the engine is running
tires- we have no clue what rims you have so go read the sidewalls and buy the same size
nextag.com is a great place to compare prices
and I'm waving to you from Sarasota
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GFX is the general short term for Ground Effects.
Originally Ground Effects were designed to smooth and cut airflow from under the car, decreasing drag and increasing downforce without the penalty of a spoiler or wing.
See this picture of the Ferrari Enzo's underbody to see what I mean about a body tray, then go look at what the floor of a thirdgen looks like in comparison. Now ricers use them as "body kits" and little if any thought is given to aerodynamics.
another basic article: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/b...s/viewall.html
Originally Ground Effects were designed to smooth and cut airflow from under the car, decreasing drag and increasing downforce without the penalty of a spoiler or wing.
See this picture of the Ferrari Enzo's underbody to see what I mean about a body tray, then go look at what the floor of a thirdgen looks like in comparison. Now ricers use them as "body kits" and little if any thought is given to aerodynamics.
another basic article: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/b...s/viewall.html
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GFX is the general short term for Ground Effects.
Originally Ground Effects were designed to smooth and cut airflow from under the car, decreasing drag and increasing downforce without the penalty of a spoiler or wing.
See this picture of the Ferrari Enzo's underbody to see what I mean about a body tray, then go look at what the floor of a thirdgen looks like in comparison. Now ricers use them as "body kits" and little if any thought is given to aerodynamics.
another basic article: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/b...s/viewall.html
Originally Ground Effects were designed to smooth and cut airflow from under the car, decreasing drag and increasing downforce without the penalty of a spoiler or wing.
See this picture of the Ferrari Enzo's underbody to see what I mean about a body tray, then go look at what the floor of a thirdgen looks like in comparison. Now ricers use them as "body kits" and little if any thought is given to aerodynamics.
another basic article: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/b...s/viewall.html
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for the purposes of being installed on a thirdgen GFX are basically a body kit consisting of a nose with an integrated chin spoiler, fender, rocker panel, door moldings, as well as a different bumper usually.
Firebird Formula's dont' have GFX: http://www.performance-car-guide.co....rd-formula.jpg
TransAms do: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/pics/GTA1.JPG
Firebird Formula's dont' have GFX: http://www.performance-car-guide.co....rd-formula.jpg
TransAms do: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/pics/GTA1.JPG
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Oh it just says Camaro, You know I looked on this site and there was vin decoder, you know for each letter in the vin. It said it was a sport coupe, also its one of the first 3000 Idk how many cars were made...
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I did the manual vin thing on this site and it said I have a sport coupe also, I like the style of it, and it has a 3piece wing. Idk These have been my favorite cars for ever so Im pretty happy I have one now. My ultimate dream car 69 camaro cant wait untill I get that. I hope to have a lot more experience by this time. Thanks for all the help guys.
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Lol ill never know... It is probably just a camaro...
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There are a LOT of ways to find out. Find your SPID sheet with the RPO codes.
Check your sway bar diameters.
Check for a wonderbar.
What's your dashboard say? Camaro or IROC/Z28 or Z28?
All of those can be added or removed, but at some point it will begin to become obvious what it most likely was.
Im pretty sure your car is one of the early Rally Sports. Im just not sure why it has the 3-piece spoiler instead of the goofy low-rise 2 pylon spoiler.
Check your sway bar diameters.
Check for a wonderbar.
What's your dashboard say? Camaro or IROC/Z28 or Z28?
All of those can be added or removed, but at some point it will begin to become obvious what it most likely was.
Im pretty sure your car is one of the early Rally Sports. Im just not sure why it has the 3-piece spoiler instead of the goofy low-rise 2 pylon spoiler.
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Questions that will never be answered lol.. Someone said I can call a chevy dealer and they can just tell me what it is Is that true?
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Re: Possible LT1 engine.
Judging by what I read by the OP, I'd say the dumb••• people meant to say they bored the block .030 and possibly added an LT1 cam. The LB9 motor is a roller motor so the LT1 roller cam would definately work.
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