BLACK92B4C

I recently stumbled into a 1991 B4C car here in Hawaii. I have been looking for a V8 car to repalce my 2.8, something for a driver/autocross project. Weather in Hawaii is hard on cars that sit, and this one has some surface rust on the roof and is rusted through the windshield pillar. If it was just a 305 RS i'd pass, but it is only $500 and is a rare car, so I want to pick it up and get it back on the road. It has a dead fuel pump, unfortunately the last owners cut a hole in the floor trying to replace it. They were unsuccessful, but installed an inline and say the car runs/drives nicely. It has 90,000 miles and is all there and original.

I thought all A.C equiped cars were 1LE, but it appears this one is a 5.7, A/C equipped, non 1LE car. Anyone have any advice? they current ownere bought it off the original police owner broken, and never got it running. They were thinking of pulling the 350 and junking the car if no one bought it. The interior is pretty nice, the body is straight with no signs of a wreck or repair. The service tag decodes as:
AU3 Power Door Locks
B2L engine, 350ci, 245hpV8/Z28 Coupe Only
B4C Special Service Package ($3950 w/ B2L)
C60 Air Conditioning
B84 Moldings, Body Side
DG7 Mirrors, Electric Twin Remote
D42 Cover, Rear Compartment Cargo
G80 Rear Axle Limited Slip
J65 Brakes, Power F&R Disc
KC4 Cooler, Engine Oil, Z28 coupe only
K34 Speed Control, with Resume
N96 Wheels, Aluminum, 16in
UM7 Radio, Stereo,Clock, s/s
QLC Tires, P245/50ZR16 Blackwall
AJ3 : RESTRAINT SYSTEM, FRT SEAT, INFLATABLE, DRIVER
AM9 : SEAT, RR, SPLIT, BACK, FLDG
AR9 : SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
AU3 : LOCK CONTROL, SIDE DR, ELEC
A90 : LOCK CONTROL, RR COMPT LID, REM CONT ELEC RELEASE
B18 : ORNAMENTATION, INTR, DELUX
B84 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, B0DY SIDE
DG7 : MIRROR 0/S, LH & RH, REM CONT, ELEC, PAINTED
D42 : SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
D5X : GEAR, SPEEDO DRIVEN
D8I : SPOILER, RR, AERO WING
D80 : SPOILER, RR END PNL
E5Z : SPEEDOMETER ADAPTER (DELETE)
E9Z : SPEEDOMETER KEY (DELETE)
FE2 : SUSPENSION SYSTEM, RIDE HANDLING
GU5 : AXLE REAR, 3.23 RATIO
IPC : TRIM- INTERIOR DESIGN
K68 : GENERATOR,105 AMP
MD8 : TRANSMISSION, AUTO 4 SPD, THM 700 R4
MXO : MERCHANDISED, TRANS, AUTO PROVISIONS, O/D
NA5 : EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O
NK3 : STEERING WHEEL, SPORT, SOFT RIM, SIMULATED LEATHER
N10 : EXHAUST SYSTEM DUAL
N64 : WHEEL & TIRE,SPARE, SPACE SAVER, ALUMINUM
N96 : WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM
UB3 : CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TRIP ODOM, TACH
UM7 : RADIO, AM/FM STEREO, SEEK/SCAN, CLOCK, ETR
UQ1 : RADIO PROVISIONS, FOR STEREO
U79 : SPEAKER SYSTEM, 4, DUAL FRT COAX, DUAL EXT RGE PKG
VAN : ASSEMBLY PLANT, VAN NUYS, CA
VK3 : LICENSE PLATE, FRT MOUNTING PKG
V73 : ANTENNA, FIXED
1SA : Option Package 01
17P : WHEEL COLOR, SILVER (91)
19C : TRIM COMBINATION, CLOTH, BLACK (C) (91)
19I : INTERIOR TRIM, BLACK (I) (91)
19Q : MOLDING COLOR (BLACK)
199 : SEAT BELT COLOR, BLACK (91)
41U : PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, BLACK
6ZW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
7ZW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
8NL : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND
9NL : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND
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Also L98 - 5.7 Liter TPi....

Pics to follow, Imageshack is not working tonight!

coolram62

iTrader: (2)

IMHO $500 is a steal for a real B4C that is as heavily optioned a car for what she was intended for.Some people tring to take short cuts and getting frustrated when they don't work end a lot of projects.Like to see the pics when you get the chance to post.I'm not sure on the 1LE A/C cars.Ordering A/C(C60)triggered the addition or deletion of certain other powertrain/driveline combinations from what I've read.

DJP87Z28

B4C is a RPO option and NOT a car Model. It is a RS with a lot of options.

coolram62

iTrader: (2)

Yes it is an option package but on the RS coupe and not the Z28.

DJP87Z28

Corrected to a RS with a lot of options.

BLACK92B4C

I read ont the board that there were only 175 350 B4C with 1LE cars. Of the limited # of B4C's I wonder how many were 350 non 1LE...







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B4C `Special Service' police package became available to law enforcement agencies only. Cars were RS coupes with Z28 5.0 TPI or 5.7 TPI drivetrains and Z28 suspensions. These cars came equipped with the 16 inch wheels and P245/50-ZR16 tires, engine oil cooler, rear disc brakes, and limited slip axle. Midyear, the 1LE 11.86 inch front brakes and HD calipers became optional for the B4C. This package was the only way to get air conditioning and the HD front brakes. There were 592 1991 B4C Camaros built.


That is the text from the main page I'm referring to.

CSP B4C

It seems to me that from what I've read, '91 was the first year for B4C and '92 was the first year the B4C got the 1LE designation in the RPO codes. I know I've read that somewhere. That doesn't mean the parts weren't on the '91s, they just didn't get the designation. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'll go try to find where I read that.
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From www.camarosource.ca...

Chevrolet built 589 Camaro's with Special Service Package (RPO B4C). It was similar to RPO G92 with air conditioning since it offered the same engine choices, had dual-converter exhaust, 16-inch wheels, 4-wheel disc brakes (including Corvette-style front brake calipers), engine oil cooler, 145-mph speedometer and special suspension. RPO B4C was restricted to RS Coupes. RPO B4C Camaro's in 1992 (but not 1991) included the "1LE" code on their service parts identification labels, apparently due to the inclusion of the Corvette-style front brake calipers.

Red1992V6Rs

Man that car is in rough shape. But it's a steal at $500.

BLACK92B4C

Yeah, she needs some polishing. Hawaii is hard on cars, and this one sat on the north shore, right on the hardest hit area of the Island. Imagine parking your car at the beach for two years...they just rot so fast.

It really is solid except the pillar, and certainly needs paint. The interior is all there and rather clean really. My budy tells me I am nuts for trying, but this is not the first car I've brought back from the dead. My GN was in worse shape and was being parted out to go to the crusher when I got it.

So what is the opinion on the board? Saveable? Worth $500 and then the thousands I need to put into it to save this car?

Ed

coolram62

iTrader: (2)

CSP B4C you may have also read 1LE in '92 in the SPID(but not '91)apparently due to the inclusion of the Corvette style front calipers.That's paraphrased from the "Camaro Whitebook"(which isn't 100% all the time)but pretty much word for word as camarosource.ca.Other than that the package seems to be the same between the 2 years.

And I thought Southeast cars faired bad from the sun and salt air(at least it's not a Northeast car that rust from the underside out.being covered probably didn't help her if it trapped moisture(I found this out the hard way).I stand by my first thought of save her.For that amount of initial investment you could take your time with her.

VERTIGO Z28

iTrader: (1)

Wow even the serp belt looks rusty. I still would pay up to 1000 for that car.

BLACK92B4C

Got the car trailered home today. They already cut the hatch for the pump, so I went ahead and cut the hard lines to get it out. I installed the new pump and hit the key, it's humming now. We are going to flare the lines and put it together with fittings, then repair the hole with a hatch cover. The fuel tank was full and is varnished, so I need to pump it out, I am seeing if the batt will hold a charge (was supposed to be new 1.5 years ago), and then see if it runs/drives.

BLACK92B4C

Well just a status update for everyone...

- Did the fuel pump, car would not start
- Traced it to clogged injectors, replaced the injectors and did an AFPR at the same time. Car fired up and sounded great.
- Needed a new oil pressure sender and VSS
- Replaced both power window motors
- Got an airbag and horn buttons (old one fell apart from heat/sitting)
- Fixed the hatch latch
- Did the brakes
- Complete tune-up

Got it registered and past safety on Friday, and was cruising this weekend. So far it runs great and drives very nice. Now the cosmetic stuff! I am planning on running it in SCCA on the 9th of Sep. It might be the ugliest car there, but I'll see what it has!

Ed