xzyst

was there ever a 3rd gen SS model from factory?

what does it take to 'be' a true SS model? (engine/body etc...)

84redta

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Never existed from factory, and to my knowledge, there was never an official aftermarket model. However, a SS can be what ever you wanted, but if you wanted to do apples to apples, maybe comparison between combining a Firehalk and a IROC/Z28. So take it as you want, but to ask what a true SS is set to someones own personal opinion, so take advantage of your imagination!

JeremyNYR

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No. A true SS model = sold new as an SS model = not a thirdgen f-body.

xzyst

thanks for the reply, I was just curious.

sleepsinshed

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The SS was a factory option only from 1967-1972, and 1998-2002.

xzyst

well see, truth be told...I am planning on fixing up my lil 6banger into an 8 eventually, with some minor body changes and stuff. My inquiry was simply for the fact that I want to put 'SS' badges on it lol (ya I know)...so I wanted input to as 'what' an SS would be, IF it were a 3rd gen.

I saw an all black 3rd gen (91 or 92 I believe) with an ss style hood on it, it sported silver SS badges on the rockers and rear...thats where I got the idea from. Aside from the hood and it sounding mean, I dont think much else was done to it.

JeremyNYR

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sleepinshed, you're forgetting 2010. Xzyst, anything you do with a 3rd gen with SS badges would be considered for appearance... some people will think it's tacky no matter what engine you have and others would be impressed with the hood and badges even if you still ran with the 6 cylinder. Aim to please yourself because you will never please everyone else with it no matter what you do!

xzyst

I think that's the best advice/input so far, thanks

RU1NER

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There were a few 97's

82TA_JAIME

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This is true. The 97 SS were my favorite cuz they had the inset headlights and the high spoiler.
Beautiful car!!.

okfoz

Actually Choo Choo Customs made an "unofficial" SS Camaro... It was based off of the Base camaro, not the Z28 tho... More or less a decal and interior package with some different ground effects and spoiler IIRC... there are pictures around here somewhere...

John

TOM-1LE

The fourth generation SS actually came out as a 1996 model, and had the LT1 engine in 1996-97. A handful of '97s (all 30th Anniversary cars) had the LT4, and are as rare as hen's teeth.

Most people are more familiar with the '98-'02 LS1 SS, as those were the highest production years of the fourth generation SS.

scottmoyer

Also just a reminder that the Z28 was the top dog during the 60s and 70s, not the SS. Yes, the SS was available with a bigger engine, but the 302 and the 350 put in the Z28s were just as potent if not more potent that the SS. The Z28 was also more than a straight line car. It would handle better than the SS. The 4th gen was the only time the Z28 took the back seat to the SS. But remember, that the IROC-Z and the SS were both built on a Z28.

xzyst

What about the late 80's? iroc replaced the z28 didn't it?
Lol, so get a decent z and then fix it up and slap the SS badge on it huh?

All the input/feedback is great guys, I'm just looking to do something 'not seen often' is all.

From wikipedia:
Does anyone know what else the base coupe got from the z28? I know mine has front and rear sway bars, but still has the drum brake package in the rear.

Anyone know what type of rear-end came in the 88 rs/v6 with a t-5?

And lastly:
Is that seriously implying that little v6 is pushing 160hp at 3900 rpms?
I know mine has some serious get up and go (for a 6) but I didn't think it was rated that high.

Oh lol, one more thing: (this baffles me)
My title says mine is an 88...but I found this:
My car has the RS badges....? an obvious mistake on wikipedia?

Anyway thanks for all the help guys, I should have joined years ago when I got this car (2001).

Aaron91RS

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my r1cer (omg i can't even call my own car a r1cer without it being sensored, :gay)



good luck finding these
EDIT : people quit PMing me asking where I got them.
I got them off ebay 9 years ago. They don't exist anymore.

scottmoyer

The late 80s did not replace the Z28 with the IROC-Z. The RPO code was still Z28. The dash still said Z28. All 1988 - 1990 IROC-Zs are Z28s. Still the top dawg! From 1985 - 1987, the IROC-Z was an option package available only on the Z28. The later years just combined the Z28 and IROC-Z into one model ordered by the RPO code Z28.

If you have an 88 RS, either the badge was replaced, the GFX were replaced or you have one of the early limited production RSs. Chevrolet started making the RS in 87 in limited colors and only available in a couple cities to test the market of such a car. In 1988, they added a few more cities to their test plan. The car became regular production nationally in 1989.

xzyst

cool, thanks for the info. I decoded the VIN and found that the production number is #178075 after the L determining the plant. Per this site, 7,038 limited availability on the RS. How would I find out for sure if mine is one of them?

The driver door tag says 6/88 for production date as well.
The gfx may have been done after sale, but from the looks of it underneath, they look factory installed. Either way, I appreciate your info. Is it possible I have a 'rare' car, LMAO a rare v6 rs.. that's kinda funny.
Those SS badges still look cool, I want em.. regardless if my cam is just a puny 6. (working on a deal with a friend to drop a 400 small block bored to a 406 in it , just gotta find one!)

RU1NER

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Jeesh, i wish i saw this earlier i just photoshopped a red rs badge to ss last week curious of how it would look.

8t2 z-chev

i found a thirdgen"SS" at the junkyard in 1993: was an
'88,white,red interior,v6 and as i remember a 5 spd
stick. had red and black striping and graphics as i recall
Even if not a factory job,it was a factory quality conversion.

caleb87irocz

i always wished they would have made a third gen SS so i decided to make "my own"

yo soy el warg

I do know that these limited production RS V-6 Camaros had the RPO Z5C in 1987. I've run across a few of them. I'm not sure if the 1988 also had this RPO Z5C for the RS V-6 Camaros. If yours does let us know.

camaro42

Caleb87irocz... Did you post a start to that project a while back? I wanted to do that to my car for a while and that thread helped to get the ball rolling. still a work in progress right now. Anymore pics of the finished product?

JeremyNYR

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Is this real or a photoshop? I think that'd look pretty cool with the other set of headlights still in place. It'd be interesting to see some more angles of it too.

caleb87irocz

its all real thats an actual pic of my car in my garage. i believe i put pics up a while ago with the idea of doing it and of course got shot down by sceptics, but that just gave me more motivation to get it done. i built a grill with all 4 headlights in and it just didnt look right so thats why i went to 2 lights with the wider grill, plus it makes it appear more old school to me. im planning a twin turbo build so im going to use the old light sockets as air damns to feed the turbos once i got it done and painted everyone has loved it, nothing but compliments. i will get more pics up asap

camaro42

I'm glad that you didn't listen to the nay-sayers. Any more angles of how it looks now? I'm trying to work out a few kinks in my plans and would like to see what you came up with.

fadedirocz28

Are you the guy i photoshopped this for in that older thread?



Sorry for helping derail the thread , You should get some more pictures up of it though, maybe a new thread

caleb87irocz

I have some phone pics that i dont like too much but il put em up. il have some good ones put up soon. when i planned it out i had my gf photoshop some stuff for me and did a ton of sketches. really the hardest part was making the grill.

caleb87irocz

few more pics since i can only figure out how to do 3 at a time

loneroad

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i love it. pin on hood?

caleb87irocz

thanks. nope still factory bolt on i molded the cowl.

darkhorse91

technically the 96-97 ss were slp modified z28s. they manage 20 more hp and some suspension tweaks but are not a true factory built ss. they're more like baldwin motion or yenko camaros from back in the day

puma1552

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Thank you for this information about 4th gens...

camaro42

since this thread is about the history of the ss series and what has been done to camaros to designate them as "ss" over the years the post about 4th gens is completely relevant

Air_Adam

Yes and no... IIRC, it was an option on the GM RPO list to have the car built with the SS option, in which case a Z28 was built by GM and sent to SLP for the SS add-ons. The '96-97 cars were actually called a 'Z28/SS' not just 'Camaro SS'.

maverick22

Just as long as you don't put 'Type R' on it anywhere it won't look like dog ****, like some dumba$$ did to his 4th gen locally hahahaha.

CamaroBeau

Why do you have to put SS in the badge? Whats the significance of SS in Camaros?

FSTFBDY

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they might not make em anymore but I do..... of course mine are aluminum custom made. cost alotmore then the stock style like ebay ones..



even RS/SS for a guy on here.

fadedirocz28

Not OP but, SS's to me remind me of a different time, Older Chevelles/Camaros/Caminos/Impalas/Monte Carlos.

SS is just "cool". if it wasn't cool and it wasn't a wanted title, Chevrolet wouldn't have made the 454SS Truck in the 90's and started bringing the title back, And they brought it back because "SS" sells cars, Dare i say SS is Legendary (but now its just a gimmick, SS Cobalts? come on...)

a 10 year old kid would know what SS meant on your car, he would have no clue what the hell a Iroc-Z is, and a slim chance what a z28 is.

Dont know what I'm even trying to say, or why I'm rambling but oh well.

maverick22

But how I would love to see a new IROC out..good luck with making those decals, I'm sure people will notice the difference, but be sure you have the Super part of the SS to back it up, alot rides on what you/your car wears, if you wear a 'tap out' shirt and are a slob well..I digress.

Dante93GTZ

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While the cool factor of the 60's and early 70's SS was there (and still is on those cars); It fails epically today (discounting the 90 454 SS). Not neceassarily in terms of sales, but in terms of overall coolness. Are you really scared of that ground pounding SS Cobalt?!?! I didn't think so - Neither am I.

The term "SS" on a modern car has no meaning anymore. Pretty soon, we're gonna see the Aveo SS!! Its a meaningless moniker that has no more business being on a 3rdgen Camaro than it had being on a damn Monte Carlo in the 80s. I mean, how tough was an SS Monte?!?!? NOT! They looked cool, but "SS"?!?!?! C'mon - Those things couldn't get out of their own way. Our cars in stock form aren't much better.

Leave the "SS" badges to the cars that deserved 'em, and quit trying to cheapen them even further by making some "SS" version of our cars. Its cartoonish to say the least. People in the know will call you out on them, only people that would think the modern day "SS" cars are cool might think its cool; maybe even authentic.

SS Thirdgen... I think not.

Imagine if GM had had this excessive poor leadership back in the day. You'd see Monza SS's and Celebrity SS's and my favorite; the CITATION SS!!

I guess I'll conclude my rant here, but I'd bet that many here would agree.

caleb87irocz

its cool think what u want, your entitled to your opinion. but let me say no matter how good anything looks, sounds, or performs people will always find something to talk smack about. there are always the haters out there. im not saying i expect everyone to like my ss front end but understand why i did it....the majority of 3rd gens i see on the road are junk. no one took care of them so they got a bad name. ya i could have just left my front end alone and painted the car, but then people would just see a 3rd gen with a nice paint job. i wanted something different, i want people to say whoa look at that hugger orange ss camaro.

On the other hand i do not agree with the weak ss cars that have 4cyl turbos and tb 305's. when i think of a real Super Sport car i think of a clean, wide tire, ground pounding machine. thats why with my custom front end i built a bad 450 horse 357 and th 350. i feel like its a Super Sport of 3rd gens.

sorry for rambling just trying to make my point.

fadedirocz28

Thats why i said "... come on" to the cobalt ss dante , I believe it has no business being on that.

My opinion, The last car that came close to rightfully deserving the SS title besides the new camaro... was the 1994-96 Impalas (Not sure if people here would disagree or not o.O)

But if you want to slap on some SS stickers, go for it. I would much rather drive a thirdgen with stock looking SS emblems/stickers than one with a big fat "CHEVROLET" sticker on the windshield. Much tackier things could be done.

Could always just throw some "IROK" stickers on the doors and call it a day

Dante93GTZ

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Well, if thats what you want to think they're thinking... ok.

Dante93GTZ

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I agree.

A-ha - At least you admit it's tacky... Thats all I was looking for! hehehe

Dante; out [at least on this stupid topic].

caleb87irocz

wow someone made a whole pitcher of haterade. its not what im thinking its what they are thinking...ive gotten that compliment more than once, thats y i said it. you dont have to criticize every thing i put on here, if your just gonna talk **** keep it to yourself. i put the pics up because people liked it and wanted to see more. to be honest your the first person that has not liked it.

okfoz

For some reason I want to think that the SS started as the Base model with the big engine. You got the Base Wheels, with the simple hubcaps, no frills interiors, no power options, no ground effects, etc. Unless you opted for the RS option the SS was pretty bare looking in which you got the fancy hidden headlights and was more of a Cosmetic option.

Here is what Choo Choo Customs thought of the SS...


Don't shoot the messenger, I know its probably not your idea of what a 3rd Gen SS Camaro should look like, considering that you have been duped by a conspiracy to change your opinion of the original SS by 4th Gens & now the 5th Gens.

How this is History related... Im scratching my head.

BTW, this is another thread that covers this https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...6-iroc-ss.html

John