Crash_Maniac

Ok Ive located my horn pigtail (in my rehatch storage go figure). Ive got my wheel pulled blasted and repainted, I have a close friend does leather work who is gonna rewrap my leather for me cheap old leather was gone. One small problem cant find a horn button. Classic Ind. advertises just the cap itself no innards for it. Plus in the email they sent they said they are not even out of production yet. I need a complete round horn button guts and all that will work with the three spoke wheel on an 89 IROC. I would settle for any that'll work that i can reman to look original. Guess Im lookin in the wrong places. Dont think the grant buttons'll work with my wheel.Really dont wanna buy a Grant wheel as I wanted to stay original as possible The wheels looking great and Id hate to just abandon it. Any suggestions guys ?

Drew

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Have you tried the classifieds? Most of the time the only problem is metal clip on the horn button comes off the back. It's easy enough to bond the clip back on the button with epoxy. 10 years ago you could find decent horn buttons in the junkyards, but people were removing the stock steering wheels because the leather on the wheel was bad. It shouldn't be too hard to find just the horn button.

Crash_Maniac

My search continues, been lookin for a week checkin third gen classifieds now.

Drew

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...Q5fAccessories

How bad do you want one?

Crash_Maniac

He He I been watchin that one bro just seein where she goes aint no way theyre hittin' the reserve yet

Drew

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It says no reserve. Within 24 hours you'll know what it'll cost to get a nice one.

Another option is a Berlinetta horn button... It'll fit, even though it's not correct. If you can get the cap without the guts as a reproduction later maybe you can use the guts of a Berlinetta cap. Or get creative and shave the Berlinetta logo and replace it with something else. I've probably got a couple Z28/Iroc horn buttons in storage, but I'm pretty sure I've got one per Z28/Iroc steering wheel I've got in storage. I checked the junk bin I can get at, and came up empty.

Crash_Maniac

Hey thanks for lookin man if you get around to it and find one lemme know I'll pay ya , I'll keep postin on my search case I find one

86blackiroc

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1. That ebay button may "look new", but it is not. New ones aren't that textured and the ridge around it would be more defined.

2. Still not a bad price if you ask me, so far anyway.

norcalz28

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I went crazy and bought a few spares a couple months back when I found them. There is a guy near me that was selling one for 40, very nice shape, but they are getting harder and harder to find. Just keep your eyes peeled and I'm sure one will pop up

Will

Crash_Maniac

Will a Bird button work from yhe same year? I can figure out how to disguise it

Drew

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Work in the sense that it'll snap in and blow the horn? Yeah, probably. It just looks completely different.

Edit: The Firebird 3 spoke button would probably work... There are several other Firebird steering wheels that are completely different.

Crash_Maniac

Thanks if I have to Ill get the guts outta one and make one my neighbor owns an upholstery shop.

Crash_Maniac

Hell I need to figure out my horn wires The wires to horn are diconnected two green wires hangin loose no fitting on them need to see a picture of one so I can fix it too. Wonder why its cut hmmm.....

Drew

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You mean the ones under the hood? Are the horns still there? Do they work? It's not unusual for the horns to rust up, and they don't even work when everything is hooked up right.

Crash_Maniac

The ones under the hood. only see one horn on the Driverside fender was gonna repair the pigtail hook it up see if it works go from there.

Drew

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There are supposed to be two of them... The wiring just goes to one, then to the other in a daisy chain. They ground through the mounting strap. It sounds like you get to rebuild the system from just about scratch. I'd start by just running a fused jumper wire from the positive battery terminal to the tab on the horn. If it doesn't blow loud and clean, get a different set of horns.

Crash_Maniac

Ahhhh I see...So this part on rock auto will replace both with one?
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=97482

Crash_Maniac

Just tested horn with a 30 Amp fuse in-line works great just need one horn.Will the existing horn work without the other installed? You did say they where daisy chained so maybe not?

Drew

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Stock, you had a high note and a low note horn. One will work without the other just fine, it just won't be as loud.

Crash_Maniac

missing the one closest to the front any idea wich one that is?

Crash_Maniac

Dude its the a-note then f-note front to back sorry I have a shop manual just missin some blow ups found it just bein lazy sorry thanks for your help

Drew

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The front one is the A-note, the back one is the F-note, according to the Service Manual.

I might have a pair of used, stock horns in my junk bin. If you'd be interested, I could see if I can lay may hands on them and find out if they still work.

Crash_Maniac

Hey thanks man .Would just need the A-note with pig tail if you have that too .The pig tail is still attached to F-Note with wire to spare so I'll soulder it. Lemme know how much you want for it.

Drew

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Oh man... So close... I dug through my box of junk parts and actually found both horns. Then I went to test them... The F note horn worked OK, so I hooked up the A note and for a fraction of a second it blew loud as can be. But just as quickly as it sounded it stopped. I double checked all my connections, but I think the blue smoke got out. If you look at the pic you can see how the brackets are different for the two, and the markings to know which is which.




The wiring isn't really anything special, just a couple of insulated spade terminals, the wire from the car and the wire to the other horn go into one terminal, then another terminal goes on the tag end. The only ones I've got laying around are still attached to Firebird headlight harnesses.

Here's what I did on my 3.1L Firebird, I got a pair of horns from a later model Grand Am with weatherpack type harnesses. Then I separated the brackets from the old horns and soldered them onto the new horns. Then I just had to bolt em in, connect a ground and the power wire.

58mark

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this isn't an iroc button, but it is the one that I use on my car. it could do until you find a good one

http://thirdgenranch.com/-strse-203/...ton/Detail.bok

Crash_Maniac

Hey thanks for the effort though. Ill just buy an A note that'll work just gotta find a bracket thanks again.

Crash_Maniac

Thanks man I'll grab that one prolly easir then tryin to fab one from a bird

Drew

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The 87 LT is basically the same as the 84-86 Berlinetta without the digital stuff, hence the horn button is virtually identical. I didn't mention it earlier because the LT production numbers suggest not many were built.

The one on Ebay just ended at almost $80 + shipping. Makes me wish I'd horded more of them back when they were really easy to find.

Crash_Maniac

By the way Thanks to all for your help with this I bought the LT button and was immediatly contacred from someone who needed that one and he had an IROC button in good shape so we traded cant be more pleased with it. With a little help from drew got it all put together and workin great

Drew

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I'm glad to hear you got it going. Now you don't need the "horn broken, watch for finger" bumper sticker. lol

58mark

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that's great!

BTW, if there's any other LT owners that need a horn button, contact me, I'd be glad to make the same trade that crash did! mine is in mint condition

Drew

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The 1987 production numbers are a little screwed up, but the LT is a one year only package and it wasn't too popular. In effect the LT horn button is a lot more rare then the Z28/Iroc button.