DizzTransAm

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2278894157.html

Drew

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Judging from the hood, wheels, tail lights, leather appointments package, etc... Yep, that's an S/E.

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extra long nose?

Dante93GTZ

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For $1500, that seller must be on some STRONG substances... That's like a $500 car as-is; MAX.

Jason E

Indeed its an SE...pretty damn rare car. Too bad its missing the drivetrain...

GerryCat09

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To me it looks like an 85-90 base firebird with 85-90 T/A tailights and hood, and base 15" dished diamond spoke wheels like they put on some of the later Birds. Did they put those tails and that hood on post 84' S/Es? I have never actually seen an S/E after 84'. Makes me wonder if I've overlooked some rare birds thinking they were just mismatched parts cars.

Dens71TA

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You pretty much just described what a '85-86 Firebird S/E looks like! There are some subtle differences like the S/E hood doesn't have the vents near the windshield and the tail light center piece is different.

Dante93GTZ

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Why is this thing rare? Looks like a run of the mill 'bird.

AmorgetRS

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Except the hood and tail lights, which are stock.

Read the thread... it explains what makes S/Es different.

84redta

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excuse my ignorance, but whats special about the tail light center section? Looks like standard stuff to me, I knew about the hood, always was interested in making my t/a hood up like this but the time to do it would be killer.

Drew

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Silver chicken instead of the usual red chicken... Nothing significant. The S/E is just an upgraded Firebird, somewhere between a Firebird and a Trans Am. The differences are mostly cosmetic, the interior has a few nice improvements, and if I remember correctly the suspension is at least level II. It wasn't really popular because it didn't really make the car any faster then a similar Firebird, and it didn't offer anything over the Trans Am. In a way it morphed into the Formula to cash in on the performance image.

84redta

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Yea I didn't think there was much, I know a few years prior it was the first to get the MPFI v6 compared to regular birds if I remember correctly, but other than that on other years it didn't do much. Thanks, good to see some of these cars still exist.

Dante93GTZ

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Interesting - Just did a quick search online and found a few of 'em. They've got a T/A hood w/o the rear/side vents...

Still an odd duck if you ask me. Were these cars their own model or just an RPO?

Dens71TA

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The reflector part still has the word "PONTIAC" on it since the S/E didn't have it molded into the bumper cover like the Trans Am did.

The MPFI V6 debuted in 1985. It wasn't specific to the Firebird S/E. All Camaros and Firebirds got them at the same time.

Dens71TA

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They were their own model. The 5th digit in the VIN number will be X for a Firebird S/E.

84redta

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I thought '84 debuted FI on the V6 for the S/E, becoming standard on all in '85. I swear I read it somewhere thinking that I'm suprised they didn't use it on the Berlinetta in the same fashion. Let me see if I can find where I read that.

84redta

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I retract my previous statement, I know I read it somewhere, but can't figure out where. Probably a mis-print if anything.

navy02ws6

No idea what the guy's talking about...it's the standard bumper that's on every 1985-90 base model Firebird and Formula.

I fully expected to see an aftermarket Knight Rider bumper after reading that though, but nope.

Berendt

is it me, or does it look like the car is lifted?

AmorgetRS

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That is what they look like with no engine or transmission.

Berendt

lol i understand now, my palm just met my forehead