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Old 01-21-2008, 08:17 PM   #1
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int production #'s. how rare are these???

can anyone tell me where i can find a break down on interior production #'s
my 84 came with these seats.notice the knee xtender found on later GTA's and the 6 way power driver seat. the rpo is: YR1 for the front and YS1 for the rear.
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Re: int production #'s. how rare are these???

they look like the recardo or pdm seats from thet view any head rest pic?
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here's one. i know its not a recaro. i think they were only available in black and gold.

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I've only seen one set in person, and I own them. Mine are from an '83 T/A. I don't know what Pontiac called them, but they are nearly identical to the "Duel Contuer" Camaro seats that never were actually available. Only the fully adjustable driver side was available in the camaro, they were the ones that had "CAMARO, CAMARO, CAMARO" written on them. The '83 seats have the same headrest as a camaro, not the rounded ones like on those pictured.

Also, the power seat track was optional, mine are manual.
Also also, have any spare bolster knobs?
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I've only seen one set in person, and I own them. Mine are from an '83 T/A. I don't know what Pontiac called them, but they are nearly identical to the "Duel Contuer" Camaro seats that never were actually available. Only the fully adjustable driver side was available in the camaro, they were the ones that had "CAMARO, CAMARO, CAMARO" written on them. The '83 seats have the same headrest as a camaro, not the rounded ones like on those pictured.
yeah i know the ones ur talkin about. my buddy has 2 82 camaro pace cars at his lot and the driver side is the only one that has these style of seats.
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Does your buddy have a spare bolster knob?
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Does your buddy have a spare bolster knob?
i can check. do u really need one.

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Those are a recaro knockoff,I can't remeber the name of them right off the top of my head,but I will look through my catalog's later and let you know.
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Those are a recaro knockoff,I can't remeber the name of them right off the top of my head,but I will look through my catalog's later and let you know.
that would be great Junior. if u can find out the production #'s of how many were built with those seats,that would be awesome too.
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i can check. do u really need one.
Yes, I do. Thanks!
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Yes, I do. Thanks!
sorry bro. the only ones he has are allready on a car he doesn't want to part out.
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The Seats are "LS Conteur" seats. The Camaro only got the drivers side due to a problem with production ( or storage ) and the Firebirds got Duel seats. I'm not sure what years they were available in the Firebirds, The 3 sets I've got were from 83-84's - Colors I've got are Black/Grey and Blue/Grey. The drivers side was placed in Camaro's from 82-85. In 86 a Limited edition Power Bolster LS Conteur seat was avalable in the Camaros - but I don't know if the Firebirds got any that year. There were just 184 power Conteur seats made in 86,....... I've got 1 of them.

I wish I could tell you how many were produced in the Firebirds - but just don't know. Since Pontiac kept pretty good records I'm willing to bet one of the members can locate those Production numbers for Ya' !

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The Seats are "LS Conteur" seats. The Camaro only got the drivers side due to a problem with production ( or storage ) and the Firebirds got Duel seats. I'm not sure what years they were available in the Firebirds, The 3 sets I've got were from 83-84's - Colors I've got are Black/Grey and Blue/Grey. The drivers side was placed in Camaro's from 82-85. In 86 a Limited edition Power Bolster LS Conteur seat was avalable in the Camaros - but I don't know if the Firebirds got any that year. There were just 184 power Conteur seats made in 86,....... I've got 1 of them.

I wish I could tell you how many were produced in the Firebirds - but just don't know. Since Pontiac kept pretty good records I'm willing to bet one of the members can locate those Production numbers for Ya' !

P.S. I don't have any spare knobs !

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well i have been searching for "LS contour seats" and the only thing that comes up is for camaros. so maybe pontiac called it something else??
i'l keep looking.
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Do a search for " conteur ".

OR " L AND S AND conteur "

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LS stands for Lear Seigler, I beleive.....might help your searching.....
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In 86 a Limited edition Power Bolster LS Conteur seat was avalable in the Camaros - but I don't know if the Firebirds got any that year. There were just 184 power Conteur seats made in 86,....... I've got 1 of them.
Like the one pictured in the '86 brochure, I assume? I didn't know any actually existed. What color is it?
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Re: int production #'s. how rare are these???

About a month ago, there was a silver/charcoal '84 TA HO in my local junkyard with those exact seats in it, also in charcoal/grey upholstery. They still looked almost brand new, too. In fact, the entire car looked like it should've still been in someone's garage, rather than a junkyard.

They're definitely not Recaros, and they're not PMDs. I don't think Pontiac actually called them by a specific name like Chevrolet did. I'm pretty sure they were simply called "6-way Manually Adjustable Seats," which also came as "Power Adjustable."

By the shape of their contours, these seats look like the predecessors to the non-adjustable "deluxe" seats of the later year birds.
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well i have been searching for "LS contour seats" and the only thing that comes up is for camaros. so maybe pontiac called it something else.
Pontiac called them L/S Conteurs as well. Check the following link and note the brochure pic:

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Like the one pictured in the '86 brochure, I assume? I didn't know any actually existed. What color is it?

Yup,........ It's Black.






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My 83 Firebird SE came with those exact same seats but non-power, and even the exact same interior color scheme. Two-tone brown... what were people in the 80's thinking... The car was a decent optioned base firebird, with an LG4/700R4, power windows, and power locks.
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As stated earlier, those are Lear-Siegler seats. They were an available option with the deluxe interior package in '83-'84. (B20) They were not rare, but they are hard to find now, especially in decent shape. They were available in cloth or leather. They were available on SEs, Formulas and TAs. They came on my '83 Trans-am, but were replaced by generic Recaro's by Mecham Racing.

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As stated earlier, those are Lear-Siegler seats. They were an available option with the deluxe interior package in '83-'84. (B20) They were not rare, but they are hard to find now, especially in decent shape. They were available in cloth or leather. They were available on SEs, Formulas and TAs. They came on my '83 Trans-am, but were replaced by generic Recaro's by Mecham Racing.
hard to find... wich makes them rare.
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Re: int production #'s. how rare are these???

I think another reason why these seats are rare is that they were used in Grand Nationals and that crowd is snatching them up and recovering them for their cars.

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I think another reason why these seats are rare is that they were used in Grand Nationals and that croud is snatching them up and recovering them for their cars.
really. they used these style seats with the knee extender?? well it makes sence, they are all GM's. thats cool to know.
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Re: int production #'s. how rare are these???

I have the manual set, the driver which is the adjustable one, they are the red and orange and have the CAMARO, CAMARO............inserts The seats are in real nice shape except for the side bolster on the drivers seat. Anyone have any ideas where I'm going to find matching material?

Oh, and if you look at the headrest..............you will see the Conteur logo......anyway on mine there is one. Also, mine doesn't look at all like the pic John in RI posted, mine has a bar across the front that you reach down between your legs to move the support up and down.
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