LTX and LSXPutting LT1's, LS1's, and their variants into Third Gens is becoming more popular. This board is for those who are doing and have done the swaps so they can discuss all of their technical aspects, including repairs, swap info, and performance upgrades.
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A lot of people ask so I thought this would be helpful. This is everything I have spent to date.
This further illustrates my point that if you don't get the complete 4th gen you are spending THOUSANDS more then you otherwise would because you can't sell parts off it to make up some costs.
-$250 sold SS spoiler
-$80 sold speakers
-$375 sold wheels
-$60 sold rear 'camaro' panel and SS mats
-$440 sold leather seats
-$400 sold complete rear axle
-$80 sold exhaust
-$40 sold sail panels
-$15 sold blinker lenses
-$75 sold lid/airbox/k&n
-$75 sold tail lights
-$90 sold dual fan
-$140 center console and seat belt
-$50 sold dash pad
-$45 sold t-top headliner
total $2215
Difference of $2306.
I didn't really have to buy all the above, so if you wanted a bare bones swap
there is another easy $1000 to be saved without getting hawks headers, or the fuel pump.
$375-$75=$300 savings for a local guy to remove codes
$160 if you have a hoist or resell it once you're done.
So I can see $1000 being fesible for a bare bones swap.
Then I still had the complete modded 406 and tranny I took out. I actually sold it for more then $2306 so in the end I actually did the swap and made money.
Of course, results will vary if you still have a stock engine to resell
Hope this helps someone asking about cost.
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Great list, definitely less than what I spent. I didnt have the means to store a complete car, or the time. But it is definitely a great idea to buy a complete car vs. buying just a drivetrain. People treat LS1/LS2 pullouts like gold.
how many miles were on the motor and trans when you bought it?
109K on the odometer but the guy I bought it from who I believe since he was off a local fbody board said the guy previous had to replaced the T56 so it was thought to have around 25K on it if that's true.
I don't know if there's anything put on them to tell that or not.
I know the T56 has a big blue metal tag on it, but I am sure they all do.
I don't know if the numbers on it can tell you it wasn't OEM to that year.
that's a great price you got for the donor car. Where'd you find out about it from?
Guy on the local board wrecked it and insurance totalled it out.
At that point I offered him $2500 to buy it back.
He made cash on the deal since the buy back was less and the insurance company brought it 75 miles and a state away to my door.
The day before I bought this one I called another local one I saw on craigslist for $2800 but it was already sold, so the deals are there.
That is the one good thing about 4th gens....there are a lot of guys who think they are great drivers who wadd them up on trees, etc. So donor cars are out there......
Where does everyone think the motors come from? LOL...Someone(aka, salvage yard) buys the car for $1,500 to $2,500(At the most!) and parts it out for $6,000+!
The only realy concern is space and time for most....Salvage yards have both,
I am currently looking for a donor car myself, since the pullouts are getting retarded "$"... I have seen GTO pullouts going for the same as a brand new GM LSX crate motor, with wiring, acc., etc!
i paid 6500 for my whole 84 trans am with a swapped in 02 ws6 ls1 w/6sp and 30k on motor and trans, also came with 02 gas tank, radiator/fans, wilwood 4 piston disc brakes, stut tower brace, hellwig sway bar, kyb shocks/struts, eibach springs, tubular lower cntrl arms, edlbrock torque arm and panhard bar, subframe connects, alpine deck, autometer gauges, hurst shifter, slp loudmouth exhaust, a set of ls6 heads, reduced crank pulley.
previous owner did every thing, i sold the ls6 heads for 700
O ok..I wondered b/c I really want the C5 brake upgrade and thought that I could kill two birds with one stone and buy a wrecked vette...
what do you mean by accessories?
well I guess a better question would be..(and sorry if there is an obvious answer that I havent seen)...So a late model Camaro with an LS1/T56 would be better than to buy a vette?
O ok..I wondered b/c I really want the C5 brake upgrade and thought that I could kill two birds with one stone and buy a wrecked vette...
what do you mean by accessories?
well I guess a better question would be..(and sorry if there is an obvious answer that I havent seen)...So a late model Camaro with an LS1/T56 would be better than to buy a vette?
Accessories...alternator, power steering pump, AC compressor...Now, some of the accessories themselves might be the same, the mounts certainly are certainly different.
A Camaro/Firebird would be a much better donor. Take the fuel tank too. You'd need to higher pressure fuel pump & they aren't simple drop ins....but the whole plastic 4th gen tank is.
Buy the whole wrecked car, get the parts you need & part out the rest. People have been known to get more $ in parts they sell, than they bought the whole car for.
Accessories...alternator, power steering pump, AC compressor...Now, some of the accessories themselves might be the same, the mounts certainly are certainly different.
A Camaro/Firebird would be a much better donor. Take the fuel tank too. You'd need to higher pressure fuel pump & they aren't simple drop ins....but the whole plastic 4th gen tank is.
Buy the whole wrecked car, get the parts you need & part out the rest. People have been known to get more $ in parts they sell, than they bought the whole car for.
Great man
I had my doubts about this swap and how much it was gonna cost and what car I needed to get so on and so on...Ive been searching and researching all about this swap but never really had that question answered before....all I have to do now is search for the lucky donor!...
I've since parted out complete a 99Ws6
Numbers changed per piece but overall total was about the same once you account for the engine and tranny not being kept this time.
$2200-sold engine auto tranny and pcm
$600 -sold fenders, door, hood, bumper
$325 -sold bumper, hatch, spoiler, rear speakers and panels and middle speaker, gave away side GFX
$45 -sold tail lights
$175 -sold 3.23 posi disc axle
$100 -sold t-tops
$125 -sold gas tank and pump
$85 -sold t-tops
$65 -sold rear leather seats
$95 -sold driveshaft
$20 -sold exhaust
$35 -sold cooolant bottle
$20 -sold wiper bottle
$45 -sold t-top headliner
$195 -sold front power lumbar leather seats
Neither the Corvette accessories (nor oil pan, I think) can be reused in a F-Body.
Are you sure about the accessorries? I am about to give it try and am wondering what information you have that identifies what the constraints are when using the Y body front end accessorries. It seems if anything they would even work better with the Spohn crossmember being the alt for the Y body is mounted high and not low.
Are you sure about the accessorries? I am about to give it try and am wondering what information you have that identifies what the constraints are when using the Y body front end accessorries. It seems if anything they would even work better with the Spohn crossmember being the alt for the Y body is mounted high and not low.
Everything I've read, says they are mounted way to differently to fit our engine compartment & clear everything.
Stat with a Vette engine & put F-body accessories on it, is what I've always read, is the only way to put a Vette LS into a F-body.
I will have to see. I have my Vette and my Bird parked next to each other and can't see why the Vette stuff will not work. I found some LS1 AC Compressor relocation brackets on Ebay, but I think I am going to go with Superpower's bracket that retains the original AC unit. With the AC Pump up top and the Alt up high...there should be no reason to have to modify the stock K member or an aftermarket one such as the Spohn...with braces.
