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I had a Tahoe that was high on both of those readings. I bought it from Wyoming so it had never been through emissions before. The EGR valve wound up being bad and was dumping **** back into the engine causing the high readings. I replaced it and drove it about a hundred miles to clear it out and it passed with flying colors. Good luck
Had the same problem with my '92 a couple of months ago, turned out to be one bad fuel injector. Car ran fantastic but would'nt pass CAC dyno. Isn't Colorado wonderful?
You really should try to get the car on a scanner to see what's going on.
Did you make sure that you ran the engine long enough to get the cat hot before you went there? Do you have an AFPR on there? That was my problem. Turned it back to stock, flew through. O2 sensor might cause that as well. Any codes, Sasa? If it comes down to it, new plugs and wires MIGHT help, but not by much.
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305 TPI, built 700R-4,Black leather 4th gen seats, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster Coil, LS1 Rear Brakes, 3.42 posi rear, ......that's pretty much it.
Oh yea, and my all-original Turbo Trans Am #437 too!
well you're not the only one having problems passing im planning on taking mine up there thursday and if it fails again im going to put in some e85 and then run it through.
As Walt had mentioned the cat being too cold is a very common failure. There is so many cars that come into the shop that have small problems, but getting the cat smoking hot will sometimes temporarily mask these problems long enough to pass the test. If all else fails start checking the basic of the fuel control system, then move to emission control systems.
I just got hotter platnum plugs (I know), I will change those tommorow. Also, I will run some denatured alcohol through the car as well. If both of those fail I will just have to get a waiver.
Here is the part about the emissions that pissed me off. When I brought the car in, the line was long. I had it on the whole time, but it stayed at 190. From there they finally brought my car in (in front of two other cars). So, I leave the car on, and the guy shuts it off. I go WTF! So, after about 20-25 minutes, they started my car again and ran it. I was afraid that this was gonna happen. However, these readings were waaay higher than the limit thus pointing to a problem.
I might as well replace all my injectors (since I planed on doing it anyway). However, I will try some alcohol and sure pass in there, and if I fail again... Look for alternatives.
Whats the point of emission testing, if you can pay 800 bucks and have it waived???? Fuking buerocrats.
My licesne plate is going to be ****EPA (if they let me), if not EPASUX. For sure.
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There's ways around that Wait and see, I have to pass emissions first though!
Oh, and I love "flunked emissions" makes me sound like a bad *** in high school, "flunking" classes.. \
before you shell out for new injectors id recomend sending them to Rich @ cruzin performance. He will clean, flow test, and replace and parts neccisary. I had him do mine and I was very satisfied. Took about a week to get them back tho, so if you are in a hurry might check and see what his schedule is like.
Another place to check out is Linder Technical Services - Home of the "Injector Guru" They will sell reconditioned injectors for $24.95 each. We have used them at the shop multiple time for certain people that will not pay for new. Just recently had our first problem with one. It was two years old and started a very slight leak at the main body seal... called them and they overnighted a replacement.
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15.967@83.63(~5800ft~)
1967 firebird 400(lots of goodies)
1992 vert. SOLD
Just the low vacum code at the map sensor. However, that has been fixed long time ago and the car did not throw any codes at me.
So, everything is working great (per the ECM).
I'll be troubleshooting more after our run tommorow/today.
Were you using a scanner, or a code reader? If using a scanner the block learn will give you a pretty good indication of how much fuel it is using, and if the computer is commanding this fuel, or if it is attempting to remove extra fuel in closed loop.
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12.71@107.52 1.82 60' 4300'DA
ASCD RA hood, 1.6rr's, aluminum driveshaft, 383, AFR 195's, CC306 cam, Hooker long tube headers dual 3" to Mufflex3.5", Holley Stealth Ram portmatched to 1205 gasket, AFPR, Megasquirt, plus a 3000 stall and shift kit.ET street radials on formula wheels and billet specialties street lite fronts.