1badeagle

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Hey guys, My cars almost done and I currently have a 6 point cage in my car and need to know what else I will need to be ready for the track so what do you think it will run.
1984 88 Formula clone
LQ4 370ci 480 rwhp
LS3 heads
Custom big LS3 cam
Hawks 1 7/8" headers
4l80 with brake and 4500 stall
Moser 9" 4.30 gear
28" slicks
Car weights 3200 with me in it.
What do you think it will run?I also have nitrous on it. What do you think it will run if I hit it with the 150 shot?Thanks,Dustin

DIGGLER

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5.70's-5.90's in the 1/8...

1badeagle

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That would only be 8.89-9.2 in the 1/4 if I am reading right.

DIGGLER

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what were you expecting to run?

1badeagle

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Mid 10s haha. Look like I need more bars in the car.

DIGGLER

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lol yes sir that combo should fly if you can get the 60's down in the 1.30 range. if it was mine i would take some gear out of it and get a nitrous converter. maybe a 3.70ish gear......

1badeagle

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I wasnt really worried about how fast it went I just wanted it to pull the wheel(s). I have v6 springs up front with Competition engineering adjustable drag shocks in the front, v6 springs in the rear with adjustable competition engineering shocks in the rear, SFC, Lakewood LCA, Adjustable Panhard bar, and the jegs tunnel mount torque arm.

1badeagle

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Any other opinions???

mw66nova

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I think that's a little optimistic. I think it'll run more like 6.1-6.3

1badeagle

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Thanks for the input, I have your videos saved on my iPhone.

mw66nova

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i second having too much gear for the 1/4 though, with the spray. i was going through the traps at 6400rpm's with my 4.11's. i just got some 4.30's to put me through the traps at ~6700rpms, which is where i shift at. this is for my n/a 370 with less cylinder head than you have. i'd imagine you'd go through the traps at 6900ish on motor. i think your setup will be good for 10.6's before the 150 shot. the 150 shot will probably put you in the 9.7 range.

1badeagle

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The 4.30 cam in the car when I bought the moser 9". I figured I may be ok with them since it's a 4 speed tranny. What if I go to a little taller tire?

The motor is actually built for a 250 hp hit of nitrous, but I figured 150 would suffice.

Can anyone tell me when a 6 point cage is no longer enough. I can't find it.

DIGGLER

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well, mine makes around 425 on motor, and with a 100 shot it runs 6.10. with a 150ish shot it goes 6.00's. somewhere around 3050-3100lbs. if he fixed the gear and converter and got the 60's in the 1.3's i think it would be doable.

1badeagle

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What converter? Is my stall to high?

mw66nova

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you need to answer a question right now: do you want it fast on the bottle, or do you want it fast NA. that will determine your next steps

1badeagle

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Both haha. I want it fast on motor cause it's gonna be a street car 80% of the time. The nitrous probably won't be used a ton, but when I use it I wanna go really fast.

DIGGLER

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nitrous converter would be tighter and more street friendly. gear would be more street friendly as well. i would set it up for the bottle. also the first time you spray it at the track you will never run it on motor again.

1badeagle

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Who makes a 4l80 nitrous converter in a 4500 stall

DIGGLER

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call greg at FTI. i think he's done a good bit of 4l80 converters. dont ask for a stall speed, tell him what youve got. actually, you need to fill out a sheet with all your engine info and stuff so you can send that to him. stall speed will be lower, like 3500ish. look to spend around 900-1200 for one. (maybe more if you retain the lockup ability?)

mw66nova

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BTW, 6pt is only good to 10.00

1badeagle

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Yea, maybe I will only get to run 1 sub 9 second pass.

1badeagle

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Orded a new converter today. I got a 4300 nitrous converter on the way. I also Purchased the down bars and cut and chopped them till everything fit right and im going to weld them up tomarrow.

mw66nova

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pics of the bars? i always like looking at other peoples renditions of roll cages, so i can get ideas of what i like and what i don't like

1badeagle

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I tacked them in, Ill snap a picture tomarrow night after I finish welding them.

1badeagle

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As promised.

mw66nova

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nice, is that a competition eng kit?

1badeagle

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No its a Jegster 4 point. I installed it. Total pita by the way. The kit is seriously about 2 feet too long on the main hoop. The door bars I just bought some steel I needed and went to town with my bender, chop saw, notcher, grinder and tig welder haha. Im going to go ahead and make it a 10 point so I will be good till 8.50 after inspection and my license.

RaisinHale

I would highly recommend a set of LCA Reloaction brackets if you haven't already installed them. They were worth a tenth and a half in 60' on my car.

1badeagle

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Whats the best brand?

xpndbl3

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any of them will work, just make sure you buy them for a moser housing. THEEEE best one with the most adjustability are the racecraft ones with like 9 holes on them, but they are the most expensive and you'd cut off the entire LCA mount and weld theirs on. The typical choice is the 3 hole ones that UMI, BMR, spohn, etc all sell the same thing and you weld them to the bottom of your stock LCA so no issues with alignment.

itsjustabird

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Also call trz they have some that you can replace your original mounts with with like 9 holes. Cheaper to boot.

1badeagle

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I got some new stuff done on the bird recently.New gauges are in the dash and in the car now.I got the new tires and wheels mounted too.

mw66nova

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lookin' good!

1badeagle

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Thanks man, I just got my Jegs racer number today so let the parts roll now.

1badeagle

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Are my pictures showing up all jacked up or is it just this work pc?

Drkhrse89

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The pictures are showing up all over the place for me.

The gauges look nice, what brand are they?

mw66nova

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pictures look fine to me

ZONES89RS

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Nice work man, my car is 3150 without me in, makes me want to do a firebird honestly.

brandoz28

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I'd like to get myself a bird....I already have 2 cars though. Love the no gfx cars!

ZONES89RS

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I like camaros with GFX, birds either way, Matt is the only one to pull of a no GFX car that i like.

five7kid

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What's not to like???

Vega

Agreed. That black Camaro with no GFX does look pretty sick but i bet id still like it a little better if it was all decked out with the Iroc or Z28 stuff. Firebirds can pull it off better somehow, idk why lol. Id love to do an LQ4/T56 swap at some point, just cant bring myself to butcher such a well documented car >_< damn me and my sentiment hahaha

mw66nova

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non-GFX cars TTFMF!

brandoz28

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not mine, but one of my all time favorite cars, Jeff Moyer's drag radial car. haven't seen him around here in a while though, goes by radialtireking most places.

1badeagle

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They are electric glow shft gauges. Best ones you can get for the money.

ZONES89RS

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LOL, Looks like the beater third gens i see from the hood.

Find a rolling body and do it to it!

You pull it off my friend.

Not ugly, but matts being white with black here and there, just makes it work for some reason.

five7kid

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Close enough...

It's kind of fun to see the new paint, pizza-cutter fronts, big-tach shift light, stripped interior, race seat, roll bar cars in the staging lanes with you, and know you outrun them by a second or better.

ZONES89RS

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Oh yea, my shoddy paint has surprised plenty on the street and track. But that think looks like the old v6 or 305 car on its last leg.

mw66nova

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i tell ya what, i love having my full interior and all the street equipment, and pulling up to a car that's completely gutted. though i fit most of the rest of your description (except the slower part)

1badeagle

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I got some more work done on Friday night. I didn't come into the house till about 4 am, Made for a long day considering I had been up for over 2 days since I work 3rd shift.





I pulled the Trick springs and cut 1 full coil off each side lowering it about 2". It still has a ton of ground clearance on it.




Yes, that is a stock hood. I have a Victor jr and a big carb. I have about 2" of space between the carb and the hood for anyone that things that it will never work. I saved myself $550 by trying to put it on even though everyone said know way. I couldn't even begin to tell you how happy I was that it all fit.