Phantom Champ

I've seen a few of you guys talk about this in SoCal. It seems to be getting worse when I had mud on my rear plate and some bozo said something to me about it in the parking lot about it.

Anyone have this book or any other recommendations? http://www.amazon.com/You-Police-Bos...d_sim_b_img_38

ron reece

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most of the time when people have mud, or a rag hanging out of the trunk, it covers the registration tab. its very common for people to try and hide the fact that their tags are expired.

Kevin91Z

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Its very simple. You have to prove to your boss that you are doing a good job, or you get fired. A police officer has to do the same thing. They either respond to crimes, help people in need, or write tickets. If they arent doing those things, the boss thinks they are goofing off.

TA

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In particular, CHP (Highway Patrol) are not responsible for general crime, but are responsible for traffic on the highways. Unless they're cleaning up an accident or something, their job is to write tickets. A "hot pencil" CHP will bring in many times more money in fines/tickets than his paycheck. This is usually not true with city "beat-cops" because traffic is only a small portion of their responsibilities.

So pretty much, if you get pulled over by a CHP, you're getting a ticket. Just like a salesman, that's what he does for a living, and Kevin is right, his boss wants to see "sales"...

...but the real revenue collectors are the automated "photo" redlight tickets. Those things generate massive positive cash flow, but are not effective if the licence plate is obscured or missing. You'll find that you will now get a lot more attention from a cop over a missing/illegible plate than in years past, because their bosses want to see EVERYONE with shiny, legible plates on both ends. BTW, motorcycles are almost immune to this revenue stream, as there is no front plate, the driver is frequently not recognizable, and the tiny rear plate can be obscured easily.

TA

injdinjn

There is no law against wearing a full face helmet while driving a car.

Even before cars cops were revenue agents. Western marshalls like Earp and others made most of their money from fining drunks, dog licenses, business licenses etc.
When I as a kid and got stopped by a cop it was "This is for your safety". That saying stopped when the cops started issuing warnings instead of tickets whenever they wanted a raise.
Speed traps are still mainline income for many cities, and red light and radar cameras are a modern way for the local agency to increase its income without a lot of expense. Camera intersections pay for themselves in 3-4 months. And reducing the yellow from 3 to 2 seconds doubles red light tickets.
And 90% of the cops in B&Ws HAVE to write XX amount of tickets a day.

Phantom Champ

I see. The tags are current and the mud wasn't that bad, but it makes sense now. There are a lot of new red light cameras in my city.

The book I linked to looks to give you ways to fly under the radar and avoid getting stopped in the first place and what to say and not to say if you are stopped. It's sort of along the lines of "How to be Invisible."


I'll order it tomorrow if nobody has any better ones they have read.

koolcutta

Just a quick note on the CHP, the CHP is funded by the state, your DMV fees are paid to the state. You don't pay your dmv fees CHP loose funding. ok now for my point. THe CHP are more likely to pull you over for expired tags then city cops cause you paying your fees don't help the city. But for some reason people always try to ride on the freeway and avoid the streets when their cars tags are expired. You might have cut your chances in half of a officer being behind you long enough to see your tags but its pretty much a fact if a chp see you he your gonna get stopped. while a city cop might cut u some slack if he doesn't want to do paper work.

Also at least this is true for the bay area where I grew up. The best officers are the sheriffs they are just call responders for small towns without a police force. They never wrote moving violations unless you did something really stupid in front of them. IF you wasn't dealing drugs, robbing or killing you were invincible to the contra Costa county sheriffs

injdinjn

It all depends on the cop and the agency he works for.
When I lived in westminster my part time boss left our work truck in my driveway and he had the tag in glove box but they left a expired plate ticket on it at 3am.
They gave me a parking ticket for parking a van on the wrong side of our residentual st also in the middle of the night.
Anything for a buck.

We could not get them to catch the speeders at 4-6pm in our tract because they wrote more tickets at that time of day at the intersection of westm and springdale.

Jon92TA

Hey Tom, sounds like you used to live in the tract I'm in now, the cars still come thru our tract to avoid the backup at the Westminster/Springdale intersection, which now has camera's.

injdinjn

I lived on the corner of Milan and Yuba. In the single storys. The people in the newer homes next to the fwy would do 30 on Westm which was a 45 and 50 on Milan.
I would drive down Milan at 25 and they would try and pass me.

Maybe the cops have more time for other area since they have been replaced with cameras.

There's a thought. Police depts downsized due to the widespread use of cameras. Think they would get a buyout like GM workers.