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Old 05-28-2002, 04:02 PM
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OK, thought I would post this here. Now I'm not sure if I'm jumping to conclusions or not. Lately, I've been getting a few emails that seems like they're from several people on these boards. Now I've never had problems in the past, but it seems like someone is doing something fishy.

I've gotten emails from Willie (THOUGH IT WASN'T WILLIE FROM HERE) I checked the email, it was blank, then I tried to reply and it gave me some kind of error, everytime I did it.

Then I got an email from something... irocz, so I figured it was someone from the boards, again it was blank, and keeps giving me an error everytime I reply.

Now, I didn't open any attachments, nor were there any.

Could someone be able to send me a virus like this? My computer hasn't been acting funny, I just find it weird that it seems like they were 3rd Gen members but not really and everytime I try to reply it gives me an error.
Just seeing if this happened to anyone else.
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Its possible that someone is trying to send you some type of Virus, but, due to there incredibly low rate of success I'd say you'd have little to worry about in that area. I dunno, I'd be more inclined to belive that someone is trying to actually send you an E-Mail and screwing up. Yet, the fact that you get an error when you try to reply makes it very possible that at a certain point you have aquired a virus. For instance, a new bug cruising around now is the Klez virus, here at work its been REAL big, we've cleaned about 60 systems with it in the past 3 weeks, that virus actually sends E-Mail to everyone in your address book, PLUS searches for E-Mail address's in ANY file on your computer, its possible that its sending out E-Mail to people and some of them aren't actually E-Mail addy's and there getting stuck. I'd go to Symantec's web site and DL the Klez fix.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...ools.list.html

Do it just for the sake of it, it can't hurt.

I'll check back later after I get back from a service call and see whats happened.

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Mark mark mark mark mark.....

C'mon man, you're smarter than that


Whats the freak'n error, GIVE US CODES


seriously though, whats the error when you try to reply
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Exactly, what kind of errors are you getting?

If you're worried about a virus, you can always scan your system online. Go to http://housecall.antivirus.com this is a free online scan and it is one of the competitors to Nortons and McAfee. Just click on scan w/o registering and choose USA and let it load and work from there. Then if you find a virus, use this site or Symantec's(Nortons) to download a fix.

It sounds like you are getting hit with a trojan/worm type virus but it could be just a fluke!
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Hey Mark, I've been getting similar emails lately too...got one the other day from a 'Z06Stingray@hotmail.com' with nothing in it and a blank html attachment. I tried replying and got a hotmail error...dunno what it is...my guess is just someone sending anonymous emails...for what reason, im not sure
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YEah, the one was a hotmail that I got.

The error is the same like when you click on a webpage that doesn't work. A whole list of stuff pops up.
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I think this might still be the Klez virus.

You aren't infected i bet, unless you use outlook for your e-mails (forgot what version) and are still running IE 5.5.

The virus scans infected users e-mail in/out boxes, then shoots out fake e-mails pretending to originate from those e-mails.

Drove em crazy for a while, until i did some research and found this out. As normal, if the e-mail looks odd, don't open any attatchments. Most of the e-mails i get are from random people, non with attatchments, and all with odd subjects. Once and a while i get the virus e-mailed to me.

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
That is microsoft's windows updates. Always install the critical updates.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.asp

There is their security updates page too.
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Yeah, I get really big emails in hotmail (usually like 147K or so), that are blank when I open them. I don't recognize the senders, either.
Just figured I'd add that...
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You caught me!!!!!!!!!!!! J/K

Sorry Mark I had to liven up this post
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I keep getting these emails offering me random amounts of money.........Usually 25million.....asking me for my services because of my Military clearance.........But I send them to Security everytime they come in.........So someone will be getting a knock on their door one of these days....LOL
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iv gotten a few blank emails also, with nothing inside of them. and one or two that i felt like were from TGO members or something that didn't make any since at all..
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Originally posted by SlowStangEater
I keep getting these emails offering me random amounts of money.........Usually 25million.....asking me for my services because of my Military clearance.........But I send them to Security everytime they come in.........So someone will be getting a knock on their door one of these days....LOL
Oh yeah I forgot to mention they are always from Nigeria!!! Does Nigeria even have $25Million combined?
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If I were you guys I'd run the Klez fix. Cause if your in anyones Address book they could be sending it to you if they have Klez. Just run it, its like a 100k DL, and the link is in the first Reply. Problem with Klez is that it doesn't let you run ANY anti virus stuff, thats why you have to hit it with a fix first. So runing any kind of AV software will just close or not run properly, the fix is really the only way, save for deleting the virus manually, to fix this problem. And since you can't scan for it, you just have to try and run the fix to see if it finds or fixes anything.

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i used the housecall scan and it found it on my wifes comp.it only does its damage on the 6th day of every odd month i believe. i noticed that my wifes comp was workin when it shouldnt have been. i did the scan and it found it.unfourtunatly it had already wiped out all her jpg. file pics and a few others.but we got the fix from the housecall site and it fixed it. so no more virus . im not sure if any of you know this but i imagine that most do. if you put as your first contact in your address book *AAA and leave all the other info blank the virus cannot send it self to anyone in your list because it comes back with some sort of error message.im pretty sure it works too. cuz ive had a few viruses and ive never had anyone tell me that they got one from me.damn hackers hehe
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Originally posted by SlowStangEater
I keep getting these emails offering me random amounts of money.........Usually 25million.....asking me for my services because of my Military clearance.........But I send them to Security everytime they come in.........So someone will be getting a knock on their door one of these days....LOL
What is your outfit's SOP? You should probably use your chain of command.
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I've gotten a few of those too. One had an attachment but the email body was blank. Needless to say, I didnt bother opening it. I also got a blank email from someone here, with a really weird title, but nothing there, no text, no html, no attachments, nothin. Weird.
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Originally posted by SlowStangEater
I keep getting these emails offering me random amounts of money.........Usually 25million.....asking me for my services because of my Military clearance.........But I send them to Security everytime they come in.........So someone will be getting a knock on their door one of these days....LOL
Just send them to the OSI, they'll know what to do with em.

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that online scan installs unwanted programs.......Use it if you like trojans and adware.....
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What ever, I've been using "online scans" and recommended them and have never seen a trojan or addware get installed on my system or anybody elses system. But hey, that's me.
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notign fishy here...well vader sent me a nudey the other day but nothing unusual.
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notign fishy here...well vader sent me a nudey the other day but nothing unusual.
That's not fair.
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields


That's not fair.
wait, was it a nudey of vader or...
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LMFAO!!!
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ive never had a prob with the online scan either. and ive been using it for over a year.i got trojan from kazaa once but oh well.i got nuthin in here anyways :sillylol:
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Originally posted by Morley


Just send them to the OSI, they'll know what to do with em.

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Thats what I was saying. OSI will be knocking on their door.....KNOCK KNOCK: Whos there, OSI, OSI who, OSI is going to arrest your little computer nerd @ss!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anywhoo, Net Security and OSI are well aware of them... And seeing as how Im in the Comm Center......it shouldnt take long. All it is, is some stupid pyramid scam. I mean how many damn people in Nigeria have computers, a phone line, and let alone Millions of $$$$
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It would seem that there are quite a fellow A.F. bretheren in here. Sound off where ya' work and are stationed at.

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Just got an email from IROCL98, 130k in size, topic How are you. I'm not about to open it. This is pissing me off.

Just checked there is a user IROCL98 on the boards, registered in July 2001, but has never posted. Weird.

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Originally posted by BuddyLeeX
notign fishy here...well vader sent me a nudey the other day but nothing unusual.
That wasn't me, but was my address. I had an email with an attached virus file last week. It didn't infect my system but may have sent a few mails before I quarrantined it. I have your address in my book.

As a general rule, don't open any email attachments is you don't know the sender and don't understand the subject line. It's always a goos idea to inspect the message header befopre opening an attachment anyway, unless you are expecting an email and are POSITIVE that it is safe.

Buddy - was it any good?
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i have gotten the exact thing mark has been getting atleast once a week for the last month.. i paid any attention to it though just deleted it.. next time i will see what it says
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i gt kleexed and it messed me up bad :-( thank *** i hadnt transferred all of my addresses to my new laptop yet so no damage was done but do yourself the favor and run the latest greatest virus scan u can..........i had to pyhsically link my pute to a way more knowledgeable frineds and actullay scan and wipe what i could from his main computer when mine was networked to his toeven get mine tpo function at that point :-( was ugly lol

but even then i had to install innoculate on mine and then destroy the rest of it

so do yourself the favor and practice safe puting' :-)
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Originally posted by CraZ-28
What ever, I've been using "online scans" and recommended them and have never seen a trojan or addware get installed on my system or anybody elses system. But hey, that's me.
I stand corrected..after I used the scan, I ran a trojan adware scanner...a couple came up and I assumed that is where they came from....come to find out my wife had been on a aol site and downloaded them...I very rarely download anything anymore...I'm getting tired of reinstalling My OS....Sorry about that. Wasnt trying to hurt , just help..
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Originally posted by 2ponchos
i have gotten the exact thing mark has been getting atleast once a week for the last month.. i paid any attention to it though just deleted it.. next time i will see what it says
Not a good Idea...load it to a web based site and open it there..
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copy that!!! next tiem i get it i will do that
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Originally posted by 84 Z-28 350
h... hopefully I'll be flying strikes (F-15E's) in 5 or 6 years
The newer multipurpose interceptors are O.K., but you can't beat the ol' 15. There's something to be said for being able to do M3 on a whim, even if the turns are a little longer.
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Hey Vader, I have just always wondered, what is up with the link to Adobe Acrobat Reader in your sig.

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84 Z-28 350, sorry about your assignment to Nellis. I wouldn't want to be there for nuthin, Too damn hot! I like it up here at Hill AFB, Utah. I've got everything I need, drag racin' in the summer and snow boardin' in the winter. Not to mention that there's no helmet law, I like to go lidless on the ol' 73.

Oh yea, yer talkin' to a bonafide Ammo Troop, HUH!

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Well I guess I should holla out at my Air Force Kin Also....................WAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUPPPPPPP!!!!!!
I satisfied here at Fairchild AFB.......Got a drag strip a 1/2 mile from base and a city of 500,000 to chill in. Its all good here! :rockon:
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Hey Vader, I have just always wondered, what is up with the link to Adobe Acrobat Reader in your sig.

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I periodically post .pdf articles on various topics. The PDFs are "locked" so they can't be edited and mis-quoted as easily. I got burned a couple of times after advising modifications in the induction system and FPR modifications, so I post in PDF to prevent tampering.

It was easier to put the link in the signature rather than manually add it every time. I guess I got lazy and never cleaned it out...
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Originally posted by 84 Z-28 350
...the published profromance specs for the F-15C/D and the F-15E are about the same -F-15C/D top speed (clean) mach 2.5, max attulde(sp) 70,000 ft, corner speed 475 knts (slowest speed the plane can pull 9G's - the lower the speed the more menuverable the plane) F-15E - speed 2.5+ autiltude 70,000 ft, corner speed 480 knts

Yada, yada... Yes, I know how those "published" specifications are devised. I'll stand by what I said.

I believe that - just like I believe the Navy's "published" specifications on their stuff. If you believe that, and front line carrier can do "40+" knots. What they fail to mention is that the "plus" takes the speed to more like 70 kts. A *****-out CVN can outrun almost anything on the surface. They almost need a freakin' hydrofoil to run tail on a full-out carrier. I'd better stop there....
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I know the published specs are off- we've had F-15E's come back with no paint on all the forward surfaces of the aircraft, and you need to go allot faster than 2.5 to do that, and I've hewrd stories of when the F-111 Aardvarks were stacioned hear they usted to replace the mach meter all the time 'cause the needel was broken off or peged on the high end.
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hey I just found some tech data about F-15 tests - a modified F-15 (they removed 2800lbs from somewhere) holds the time to altitude record (sorry it's in meaters that's what the data is in)hears the data 3,000 m in 27.57sec, 6,000 m in 39.33sec, 9,000 m in 48.86 sec, 12,000m in 59.38 sec, 15,000m in 77.02 sec, 20,000m in 122.94 sec, 25,000m in 161.02 sec, 30,000 -n 207.80 sec (I did the math and 30,000m is ~98,425 ft, well beyond the published max altitude of 70,000 ft and well beyond the armstrong barier- the point in wich blood boiles due to lack of atmospheric pressur -which is ~ 60,000 ft) inpressive, huh
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