Jason_GTA

I was wondering if any of you have this problem. With my car i have the power hatch button to open the hatch. And if it press the button the hatch comes up and it you don't grab it as soon as you push the button it gets sucked back down. I don't know what the problem is. Also my hatch realease button doesn't work unless my car is off. That kind of defeats the purpous of not having to shut your car off and take you keys out to do it. Does any on know what is worn giwth these two problems. I also have a keyless entry on my car and a factory alarm.
jason

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1988 Pontiac GTA
Loaded
350 700R4

Night Hawk

Nothing is wrong. That is how it is supposed to work. The reason why you can't open the hatch while the car is running is because GM didn't want you (or someone else) pop open the hatch while driving down the road.

I think that GM should've given us a bit longer to actually get back there and open it, instead of running back as soon as you push the button, or else it will pull back down again.

Jason_GTA

But on my friends camaro when he pops it up, it stays up. and it pops open when his car is running. Is it different with camaros. If so I am going to a junk yard and getting one of there set ups. It is alot nicer. And I don't know how some one would accidently push the button when the car is on. YOu have to be pretty dumb.
Jason

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1988 Pontiac GTA
Loaded
350 700R4

Kevin S

This is exspensive but try new shocks for the hatch.They may be weaker when you first open it.Thus....not allowing the hatch to open enough to clear the lock assembly.
It sounds like the hatch is popping open then with the shocks not having enough juice to keep it open allowing it to shut,causing the hatch to drop back into the lock.If you can afford it it is worth a try.
I'm sure there is away to wire the switch to open the hatch.You just need to play around with it some.Like finding a terminal in the fuse panel that is always hot.

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Stuart Moss

On my 91 Camarao, the hand brake must be engaged before the hatch will open with the ignition "on". With the ignition "off", it will open regardless of the position of the hand brake.

The reason the window goes back down was correctly explained above. After leaving the latch assembly when "opened", the motor will raise the latch assembly to allow it to be gently closed. However, since the window has not opened far enough (weak gas shocks and/or weatherstripping?) to clear the latch assembly, it will re-engage this assembly, and then begin the closing operation.

Paul Riccioli Jr

iTrader: (1)

I don't know about you guys, but my hatch release will open when the car's on if I'm in Park and Neutral. It just won't open in gear. And I think it would actually be easy to accidently open the hatch while driving. Suppose you were reaching down to open the power windows and accidently hit the switch?

Jason_GTA

Thats right, you camaro boys have the switch between the power windows, That is a dumb place to put it. I don't know if you are firmiliar with the firebirds but our relaease is on the dash in the center. I think I am going to get some new struts for the hatch though. Another question. Do any of you have automatic power windows. I mean, can you just tap the down button and realease and the window goes down by it self. It is a real cool feature.
Jason

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1988 Pontiac GTA
Loaded
350 700R4

Kevin S

I have power window but I don't have that feature.My mom does on her 98 olds.I find it kind of annoying....what if you just want to open the window a little to smoke?Let it go all the way down then back up to where you want it?

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danomano

Mine did the samething after an hour of adjusting the rear hatch pull down housing it started to work right. Becareful on getting one from a junk yard as they are quite pricey(+100)

TomP

JasonGTA, I toyed around a few years ago with some wiring diagrams to get an auto-down window switch. I lost interest, along with the diagrams

Basically you need a "latching" circuit to start the window cruising down, and some kind of opto or mechanical "interrupt" circuit. When the latching circuit is activated, it stays activated until the interrupt circuit kills it. The interrupt circuit should signal when the window is down (or very close to being down).

A few transistors can make a latching circuit; and the interrupt can be a separate circuit controlling a relay, which disconnects power from the latching. See why I lost interest? Radio shack is the easiest way to get books on this stuff.


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Jason_GTA

I already have the feature on my car and I don't care how it works as long as it works. Kevin, On my car you just push the window button down a little bit and then window goes down and if you let go, it stops, to make it roll down all the way you have to push the button all the way down and then realease. Pretty cool.
I was just wondering if this was a feature on all firebirds or did the guy I bought it from do this.
Thanks
Jason

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1988 Pontiac GTA
Loaded
350 700R4

Stuart Moss

oops - just saw your post. SRI

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TomP

Okay, I thought you were asking how it could be done- whatever.


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Buck Mustard

Jason, my GTA has power windows but don't work like yours. I have to hold the button until the windows are where I want them.

As for the hatch, mine gets sucked back down right away also. My lift supports (hatch shocks) are totally shot. I am guessing that with decent lift supports, it might not get sucked back down so quickly.



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MSD 6AL ignition, ADS chip,
BMR strut tower brace
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Infinity 4x6, Alpine 6x9
Rockford-Fosgate Punch 400a4
80 watt Bazooka sub

IROCET

I am now having the same problem on my Camaro. I agree that it is the gas shocks that are the problem. Mine used to open and just kinda sit there for as long as I wanted. Then my shocks started going bad and now it pulls it right back down. I'd try the shocks if I were you. Also, I can open mine when the car is running, unless it is in a driving gear.

Matt

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Jason_GTA

Ok cool, Because my friend with a camaro has very good shocks on his hatch and his stays up so I would bet that is it. I was wondering if any one knew of a real good company that makes a good shock for the hatch and the hood actually. Thanks
Jason

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1988 Pontiac GTA
Loaded
350 700R4

Buck Mustard

There was just a post regarding these shocks the other day. I forget what forum it was in, but I'll try to find it. I think the gist of it was you can order them from your local parts store. The offical name of these shocks are: "lift supports".

-- Edit:
Here it is: https://www.thirdgen.org/messageforu...ML/000002.html

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