Are these heads a lost cause?
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Are these heads a lost cause?
So the engine in my project car never ran then I saw I had coolant in the oil so started the disassembly process. Popped the ehads and realized why I was getting zero compression on the cylinders also. The valves on a few of the cylinders were frozen open. Also I had a pool of coolant in a couple of cylinders also. Im just wondering if these heads are salvagable or if I should just use them as anchors.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
They are fixable, IF you want to spend a pile of money on them.
Better to take that money and add some more and get a nice set
of new heads that will make some POWER.
Better to take that money and add some more and get a nice set
of new heads that will make some POWER.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
Yeah, the only reason I ask if they are salvagable is because Im building up a new motor with new heads and was wondering if I could tell people thye need to be rebuilt and machined to be used. I dont like ripping people off on heads that are shot. Thanks
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lol @ mustang comment
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
I think you'd be spending more time than they're worth. It would take a while to clean them up. I'd buy new ones.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
I'd like to dip them in a rust dissolver, just to see what they'd look like afterwards.
Deck, valve job/guides, new valves and they should be fine.
What heads are they? I'm wondering if they are worth that cash?
Deck, valve job/guides, new valves and they should be fine.
What heads are they? I'm wondering if they are worth that cash?
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
Those are actually very decent castings, one of the better production line heads. All those heads really need is dissassembled, hot tanked, probably decked, new guides and a valve job. You'd have some money into them, basically having them completely rebuilt, but it would probably only be a few hundred dollars, maybe less if you did the R&R stuff yourself. You have to have them crack checked though, before anything else is done. I'd say go for it though.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
hot tank is caustic, not acidic. It'll get rid of grease, but not rust.
It needs to be acid dipped.
or bead blasted I suppose..
It needs to be acid dipped.
or bead blasted I suppose..
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
look at this chamber. If this is a casting flaw or sever corrosion, these heads are trash.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
Holy Crap!!!! I've never seen worse lookin heads...!!!!!
I have factory replacement heads 193's that are identical to the 083's. They have 50.000 Kms on them and i just took them off to throw AFR's on the GTA. They are like new..... and never smoked.
PM me if you need heads
Search GTA Sammy , there's vids
I have factory replacement heads 193's that are identical to the 083's. They have 50.000 Kms on them and i just took them off to throw AFR's on the GTA. They are like new..... and never smoked.
PM me if you need heads
Search GTA Sammy , there's vids
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
The 193s are the heads that should have come on the TPIs though. The swirl port heads are NOT to blame for the low-performing truck engines. The TBI truck engines made 40 HP more than any of the older 882/993/624 headed engines using the same cam and a more strict emissions standard.
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Re: Are these heads a lost cause?
I'll have to take a closer look at the 193 ports/ bowl area..... I never noticed any difference but I wasn't looking too hard either... hehehe I was too busy drooling over the AFR's
I thought that I read on Mortec?sp that the 193's were factory replacements heads for the L98 engine......... & they could have been, but not the exact same casting.
Either way they're sitting on my basement workbench.
I think that your probably better off with new heads just the same...... You can buy heads from Summit for around $600.oo which is less than rebuilding anything.
SUM-152123 $325.oo each 2.02/1.60 valves with 165cc intake ports and max lift of .520
My
Sorry those won't fit the 72' intake face I believe......... but you get my drift.
I was gonna use World SR Torquer heads with 58 cc chambers and 170 cc intake runners 1.94/1.50 valves. It's a tested combo........ I have those heads sitting besides the 193's
I thought that I read on Mortec?sp that the 193's were factory replacements heads for the L98 engine......... & they could have been, but not the exact same casting.
Either way they're sitting on my basement workbench.
I think that your probably better off with new heads just the same...... You can buy heads from Summit for around $600.oo which is less than rebuilding anything.
SUM-152123 $325.oo each 2.02/1.60 valves with 165cc intake ports and max lift of .520
My
Sorry those won't fit the 72' intake face I believe......... but you get my drift.
I was gonna use World SR Torquer heads with 58 cc chambers and 170 cc intake runners 1.94/1.50 valves. It's a tested combo........ I have those heads sitting besides the 193's
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