Monkie

Why is everyone bitching because I posted tech? I simply posted what a 03 with the exhaust I have done would pull. And holy **** the roof caved in on you guys. The 2003 makes impressive numbers. Yes with a SCer the LS1 would beat the 2003. Can GM afford to slap a warrantee on a SCed LS1? Instead of crying and saying a LS1 would beat a Cobra why can't some of you just say "thats nice numbers with great potential" why does it always have to boil down to a *my dick is bigger than yours* thread? If you don't want to hear about Cobras then why did you click on a thread that is titled "If anyone cares to know what a 2003 Cobra with a pulley change makes...." I even typed the title out for you guys that failed hooked on phonics when you were little. If you don't care what it makes then DO NOT click on the link. And then you have homos like 330hp bitching about the thread wasn't third gen related. Hell is "84 grand national vs. 90 zr1"? Quit making the mod's job a pain in the *** and just act your age.

5.0mustang

I agree, the warning was in the title, and if you don't care, don't look and don't post! Seriousely I don't see many LS1 owners complaining, but the guys with 160hp 305s do the b****ing for them!!! Think about this, ask Monkie what he makes with his blower! I bet it is a lot more than the 03 did, so basically if you slap a S/Cer on an 01 Cobra it would be comparable to an LS1!!!

Since you guys like real comparisons, put a 9psi centrifugal on an LS1, and one on an 01 Cobra. I bet the Cobra almost matches the power, and lasts longer! I know a kid who blew his car up with 7psi!!! So for all you guys who want fair, do that comparison, not the redesigned 03 motor, because if GM redesigned the LS1 to take boost, you can bet it would not be the same as adding a supercharger to one!!!

85transamtpi

Monkie,
This post has absoutely nothing to do with Theoretical racing or Street racing. I still dont know why you try to shove Ford down everyones throat. I have a strong feeling the only reason you do this is to draw out the flames. We all know that '03 cobras are fast, and we all know what YOU think of them. Heres what I think.

'03 cobras dont scare me.

I've already beat one (and taken his $100) on the street. If I see another one, I'll give it a try. It sure felt good to edge him out after all the hype I've heard. I like to get my info first hand. Not from www.I_masturbate2cobras.com or some other 2nd hand info posted on the internet.

-Doug

curt86iroc

just what i was thinking...

CrazyHawaiian

who cares

Monkie

Obviously alot of you. Some of you just need to shut your face. I know this isn't street racing related. ****, now I know how a 1st grade teacher feels.

BTW thanks 5.0 for backin me up

Monkie

If this does happen to be true which I don't know about then you can bet that it was stock. With nothing but a stock size K&N with the air silencer taken out it will give the car 11rwhp and long tube headers, O/R X pipe, and straight through exhaust will give it close to 50rwhp. I mean damn like I said before if you don't care then don't reply its that easy. I'm sure there is some people out there that will use my numbers to work around and to look at. These are REAL numbers, not something someone says they can do. Too bad some of you have to make all my post get your thongs 4 inches up your ***.

roadog115

Why even post anything Mustang related on a F-Body message board anyways??

rx7speed

if there was a post that already had a warning about it being for mustang related I wouldn't call that being shoved down your throat

you didn't have to click on the link but instead if you read it YOU took the bait and YOU SHOVED IT DOWN YOUR OWN THROAT


if you do not like his post about his mustang then don't read them simple as that.

who's more of the man here the one who bi<x>tches about him posting about his mustang?

rx7speed

why don't you get on my a$$ then or nic, or 5.0mustang or even the guy who owns the thirdgen eclipse (forgot ya name sorrry)

we post here because we like to know about other ppls cars. most of us have an interest in something other then the thirdgen though. and I know from my own experience others are interested in knowing about my car as well as my races.
remember it is best to know your enemy before you just run into fight him and by us posting you learn about our cars


also the mods said it was ok

roadog115

I agree that it's nice to know other things about other people's cars. But if I wanted to know anything about your car or anybody elses or any of the races you've been in then I would check out those message boards.

No4NJunk

Horse SH*T!! The new 03 was designed for the sc (**read lower compression**)!!! I'll put money on the fact that boost for boost (same Housing and impeller size) the ls1 would destroy a same year cobra. I'll bring some facts to the table later

As for the why this all started. Whiny *** B*tches!! thats the first thing that comes to mind. Like already stated if ya don't want to hear about it then don't enter the thread......DUUUUUUHHHHH!

rx7speed

if it really bothers you that there is mustang stuff here talk to the mods (who have already said it is ok to post such stuff) or DON't CLICK ON IT


also if what you say is true you might as well erase your post about the civic b/c that doesn't belong on this board and go to www.superhonda.com and ask them since as you said if you wantto know info about there cars you should go to there site

Monkie

Damn man calm down. Fact is Camaro was N/A with pushrods, one cam, 10:5 compression, and 5.7Ls where as the Cobra is Supercharged, 4 camshafts, 8:5 compression, and 4.6Ls. They are two TOTALLY different cars people. Why do people complain about Ford having to go forced induction to beat the Camaro? Do we not remember the little 302 beating the **** out of the 305 and giving a 350 a run for its money? Are the same people that cry about Ford having to go forced induction gonna cry saying Toyota had to go forced induction to beat the camaro when you race a twin turbo supra that puts 8 car lengths on you from 70mph to 100mph? They are different cars and the two companies went two totally different ways in getting power. Simple as that.

rx7speed

who cares how they get the power?

does it really matter


if you win you

if you lose you lose


doesn't matter to me if you use forced induction or not

and the little well if they did this to my car or if I did that to my car I would be faster

well if you didn't do don't bi<x>tch about it saying if you did.. blah blah blah.... at that point what makes you any different then the typical *****

85transamtpi

The fact of the matter is that this board was created for technical data only, related to thirdgen fbodies.

Not only is this (and much of the info Monkie posts) completely outside of these guidelines...it is in the completely wrong forum.

Posts related to engine mods should go into the corresponding board (tech/general engine)...not street racing board.

I have no problem with people that do not drive thirdgens posting on this board (hell Im one of them).

Would you go to www.classicrock.com and post info on rap music? If you did go there and do that, what type of response would you expect?

Kinda like whats happening now. If you guys want a BS forum, go elsewhere.

-Doug

rx7speed

I agree with the tech thing.... if it is motor related it goes there

susp related then don't put it in the auto-detailing place


but as far as racing goes
from what I have heard from the mods (and from what I have gotten away with) is racing content of all sorts should be allowed here thirdgen related or not.
we are not to start post such as this one was though (but hey it's here might as well ***** it up) or any other flame war

Monkie

Ok man, listen IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ ABOUT SOMETHING NON THIRD GEN RELATED DO NOT CLICK ON IT some people on here might want to know what it would pull and some might not. That is why I posted in the title FOR THOSE WHO CARE.... And you are saying "Would you go to www.classicrock.com and post info on rap music?" no. Has anyone in here posted about a motorcycle? No, a mustang and a camaro or firebird are CARS they are related. So you are saying no one can come in here posting about a fourth gen? LOL

No4NJunk

I'm not worked up so why would I need to calm down?? Matter a fact....I'm sippin on a bud....you???? Not a flame but that is coming from the same person who was trying frantically to get acceptance around here.

BTW- congrats....I was sick of seeing the board trashed with monkie this...and monkie that.

I'm not making an argument against the 03 cobra. I'm correcting what 5.0 was saying (lasts longer my ***!). I could care less who wins.....I dont own either but I would bet my NA setup would give some a run (with a hell of a lot less money). But to say a cobra would last longer on boost is just stupid. You obviously don't know teh dynamics of an engine or the ls1 to be specific.

I sure hope you weren't talking to me!!

Monkie

Sorry bud but 5.0 is right. A LS1 isn't good past 6psi, then you will have to go forged. A 99 or 01 Cobra can take 10psi then it needs to go forged. And since the heads on the Cobra are alot better than the Camaros the Cobra will make the same if not more power. I will have numbers to back up that claim by monday. And the 2003 Cobra bottom end is good up to about 700rwhp. So sorry again, but both me and 5.0 are right.

BigErns90IrocZ

And don't forget I drive the monsterour Aerostar!!! The whole point of this post has come down to a damn pissing match over a lot of repressed anger. I do not think that these boards were created for thirdgens alone, if it was than we would all be cheering to the lone supremacy of the 3rd gen F-body. People that do not own a 3rd gen, or might have, such as myself, offer a different perspective on a topic. There are almost no problems between ppl except when people try to start flame wars or just decide to act like a bunch of asses.

Anyone can post on these boards be it *****, be it a mini-van racer, get used to it or go start a forum that allows only thirdgen owners to post. And you ppl are starting to sound a lot like a certain group, "Mustangs suck, F-bodies rule!!!" Sound quite a bit like ,"Imports rule, domestics suck!!!"

mystikkal_69

iTrader: (2)

the 2003 cobra has a forged rotating assembly on a all steel block instead of aluminum sleeved block. hence it will handle the boost much better than stock LS1 ever would.

i'm a chevy guy but, the 2003 cobra is a damn good deal for the performance it has.

jocww

ibtl

84TAProject

damn, i got beat to the IBTL.

DakotaSLT

This is the most sensible post I've seen yet. Everyone is bitching about who can **** farther, that's all, and I agree with Ern, it does sound like a bunch of jealous ricers that are mad someone is faster. Personally, much as I hate to say it, but in terms of Monkie's ORIGINAL post, I think he was right, and I agree with him. The post was clearly about a mustang, if it was going to get your panties in a wad, you shouldn't have entered the thread. I'll take it a step further and say I'm GLAD the post was made with the info, because it relates to one of the most potent performers we'll encounter on the streets, and I LIKE knowing the competition. I would not trade my Iroc for any other car, but come on, let's have a little mutual respect. Last time I checked this was an open board, if you're going to go crazy over something like this, maybe you should find a closed board where you can be by yourself and do nothing but tell yourself how great you are, I mean, come on, that's what the ricers do..............

rx7speed

amen

CrazyHawaiian

MONKIE!!! NOBODY GIVES A CHIT!!! Stop making flame wars by comming on a 3rd gen webite and poting useless chit about how a mutang is better than something. You cant tell us 'IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ ABOUT SOMETHING NON THIRD GEN RELATED DO NOT CLICK ON IT ' you fool this is a thirdgen webite. If its non thirdgen related or non street racing related THEN WHY IS IT HERE. Is that so hard to understand? Do you want me to goto your mustang board and make a bunch of posts in the mustang appearanc section about how fast Geo Metro's are and how great they look with chrome wheels? And then when ppl go WTF I can tell them HEY IF YOU DONT WANNA READ ABOUT GEO METROS ON YOUR MUSTANG BOARD THEN DONT CLICK IT. No!! Thats just retarded!! Its not street racing related. Its not thirdgen related. It just a way for you to get kicks because you're bored. If you're gonna post here about that chit then post something about a race. NOT WHAT U THINK ABOUT A RACE tHAT MIGhT HAPPEN SOME DAY IN MONKIE WONDERLAND. Goto your mutang board and glorify your 03 cobra. Everyone there will love it. You can give all the 'facts' you want and everyone will agree. You can make so many friends!! Just imagine!! GO MONKIE GO!!!!

no_car_yet

yeah i would just like to add something about what monkie said in the other post."run what you brung". thats good. Most of us don't have LS1's so when he says something about his cobra why do you all jump to compare it to the LS1 when we mostly have L98's or LB9's. I think its great that the stang can get the much HP, but the f-body is out of the race...well new ones anyway, but now we will have to do with souping the older cars to wipp the new. . Monkies car is faster than mine and alot of other peoples and i have no problem saying that cause no mattter waht you do there will always be someone building something to beat you.
About all this non-thirdgen post stuff i don't care about them either. if the cars mentioned in the post don't catch my interest then i don't read or reply. doesn't bother me. I think we should just leave monkie alone, cause if he has gone through all this then he is probably telling the truth. I don't care anyway cause i am not even in the same country as you guys so i'll never meet hardly any of you..

ENOUGH OF THIS ONLINE ARGUING ALREADY!!!

CrazyHawaiian

OK You win MOnkie. The 03 Cobra is the bomb. I LOVE YOU MAN

rx7speed

sorry man but according to your post I should leave

I post non thirdgen related race here
post in the apperance forum to see others opinions on my car and what would look good and what wouldn´t
I post in the driveline section for help with my tranny when I had problems
also I post here in the tech general engine about my car sometimes


all non thirdgen related

all of them not even domestic related

rx7speed

thank you



and once again


once more just for good mesure

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ENOUGH OF THIS ONLINE ARGUING ALREADY!!!

5SIZ

Monkie...


This is NOT theoretical street race related at all and I do not see the point of making this thread.

This is NOT a Mustang site, therefore, why would we care what mustang's can do????? Unless it's racing it or it has something to do with theoretical street racing then please keep it to yourself or post it in another forum.

If you want to post tech about mustangs go do it on a mustang forum, the only person I see getting thier panties in a wad is you since you made this thead simply to vent and I'm sure you knew it would lead to this big flame thread.

DO NOT post another thread of this nature or I will be forced to take further action.