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L98 vs Nissan Altima
Ok guys tell me what you think, my buddy just bought a Nissan Altima on eof those new 240hp family sedans, not sure what the tq rating is on that somewhere in the mid 200 I think. Anyway my 88 i sin my sig, he thinks he can take me, I say no way! I have no idea what HP I am at right now, TA is in a good state of tune and feels real strong, never been to the track so no idea what it could run.
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I wouldn't worry about him too much. I think you could beat him. Get a good holeshot and you have it in the bag. Those new altimas are fast, don't get me wrong, but I am fairly sure he will be seeing TA tail lights. Now go race his family car driving ***!
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Originally posted by Ian_F
I wouldn't worry about him too much. I think you could beat him. Get a good holeshot and you have it in the bag. Those new altimas are fast, don't get me wrong, but I am fairly sure he will be seeing TA tail lights. Now go race his family car driving ***!
I wouldn't worry about him too much. I think you could beat him. Get a good holeshot and you have it in the bag. Those new altimas are fast, don't get me wrong, but I am fairly sure he will be seeing TA tail lights. Now go race his family car driving ***!
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OK I just found some info on the 3.5 Altima. TQ is 246 HP 240 the one article I saw tested it in the 1/4 Mi. at 14.9 and 0-60 at 6.3. So given my mild upgrades I would think I can take him. It wouldn't be by a whole lot though I imagine within a tenth or two differences on a track, and that would probably be due to my higher tq rating. Damn even the family sedans are getting into threatening territory of my F-body. Fuel injection engine design has come a long way in 15 yrs.
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Originally posted by omcrider
OK I just found some info on the 3.5 Altima. TQ is 246 HP 240 the one article I saw tested it in the 1/4 Mi. at 14.9 and 0-60 at 6.3. So given my mild upgrades I would think I can take him. It wouldn't be by a whole lot though I imagine within a tenth or two differences on a track, and that would probably be due to my higher tq rating. Damn even the family sedans are getting into threatening territory of my F-body. Fuel injection engine design has come a long way in 15 yrs.
OK I just found some info on the 3.5 Altima. TQ is 246 HP 240 the one article I saw tested it in the 1/4 Mi. at 14.9 and 0-60 at 6.3. So given my mild upgrades I would think I can take him. It wouldn't be by a whole lot though I imagine within a tenth or two differences on a track, and that would probably be due to my higher tq rating. Damn even the family sedans are getting into threatening territory of my F-body. Fuel injection engine design has come a long way in 15 yrs.
be sure you get a good takeoff and that altima will only see taillights...
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how do you like that ravin exhaust? your the only other person i seen on here with it...
how do you like that ravin exhaust? your the only other person i seen on here with it...
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Well according to your SIG you got one also. There was someone else on these boards with a maroon firebird that also has a Ravin. Anyway I am very pleased at first I thought the sound wasn't aggressive enough but then I realized my cat was clogging up, once I put in the Catco cat it has a beatiful throaty sound I am really pleased. As far as performance who knows, there website claims to have test showing better flow than Flowmasters and Borla, but they all claim to be the best I imagine there all really close and this was more unique and I also liked the black canister so those are the reasons I went with it, have no desire to change so I guess I'm a satisfied customer. Heres a pic of my tips.
Well according to your SIG you got one also. There was someone else on these boards with a maroon firebird that also has a Ravin. Anyway I am very pleased at first I thought the sound wasn't aggressive enough but then I realized my cat was clogging up, once I put in the Catco cat it has a beatiful throaty sound I am really pleased. As far as performance who knows, there website claims to have test showing better flow than Flowmasters and Borla, but they all claim to be the best I imagine there all really close and this was more unique and I also liked the black canister so those are the reasons I went with it, have no desire to change so I guess I'm a satisfied customer. Heres a pic of my tips.
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Yeah you have the dual cat setup on yours I think. You will be very happy with the difference in tone once you go to a hi-flow cat and headers that will even be better. I want to go headers next I am not sure if there smog legal or not here in Cali, will have to look into it.
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yah i have dual cats. i am going to get the slp 1 3/4's sometime this month. i'm just trying to decide whether i want to take my cats off, or get some hi flow cats....?
no emissions for me!!
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no need to lose sleep over a nissan i drove my mom`s 99 maxima a few times first 2 gears are peppy but after those 2 gears its like its towing a yatch while breathing through a drinking straw. most nissans make all it power bottom end and leave none for mid and top end.
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so what happend? just wondering cuz i rented a 05 for the weekend and compared to driveing my carmaro its like im driveing an accent lol. when i take it back im going to race it first lol
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My friend raced one about a month ago, the 3.5, with his L98. He had less bolt on than you and won fairly easy. Got him by .4. You should have no problem.
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well
i went to a site where they dyno factory altimas and heres what i pic up for the 3.5 v6
Run 1 - 193 hp, 223 ft-lbs. Run 2 - 193 hp, 213 ft ...
now heres what it is factory rated at 245 hp @ 5800 rpm. 246 ft-lbs. @ 4400 rpm ...
Run 1 - 193 hp, 223 ft-lbs. Run 2 - 193 hp, 213 ft ...
now heres what it is factory rated at 245 hp @ 5800 rpm. 246 ft-lbs. @ 4400 rpm ...
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dude i cant beleive your even worrying about it with those mods it should absolutly spank him. we have a nissan maxima with the 3.5 and yeah its quick but it would be no match for a l98 with those mods. with a stock l98 it would be a pretty close race though. i raced my buddies 90 RS with a tbi 350 in it and lost by half a car length ( but he dosent really know how to launch) so you should beat him pretty bad. only one way to find out let us know!
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Honestly i dont see how ppl are afraid of these new Maximas and Altimas. Yes, there Quick. Yes it would spank a 305 Auto. And it would be a very close race with a 305 TPI 5 speed (due to its same timing. Most of these Maximas are runnin high 14s. A good tune Stock L98 esp Speed Density one would still Spank it with a good Launch. These Maximas dont have Torque like the L98 has, they weigh more, there Front Wheel Drive and i can list on.. 90 percent of L98s can beat them easily. I dont see the big deal here. My cousins old L98 spanked a couple of these things with just a chip and catback. But with your mods man, you should murder it.
dont waste your gas, esp wit your mods man
also omcrider i like your exhaust tips
dont waste your gas, esp wit your mods man
also omcrider i like your exhaust tips
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Originally posted by prophecy xi
no need to lose sleep over a nissan i drove my mom`s 99 maxima a few times first 2 gears are peppy but after those 2 gears its like its towing a yatch while breathing through a drinking straw. most nissans make all it power bottom end and leave none for mid and top end.
no need to lose sleep over a nissan i drove my mom`s 99 maxima a few times first 2 gears are peppy but after those 2 gears its like its towing a yatch while breathing through a drinking straw. most nissans make all it power bottom end and leave none for mid and top end.
My aunt's '04 Altima 3.5SE is a peppy car for what it is. With your mods you should take him fairly easy.
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Well let me chime back in here. Ok first this post is a year old so I didn't have all the intake, injectors, AFPR, Fuel pump etc. I was pretty much stock with an exhaust. So I would never ask this question today. At the time the new Altimas were just that "New" with their claimed 245HP I figured it might be close.
I tried to get him to take a trip to the track with me and he's being a big wuss not wanting to beat on his car. Some people are so boring responsible. Anyway I agree I would spank him.
Funny thing is as soon as the new stangs come out he's buying one of those I expect the GT to be running mid 13's. Wish I had his money.
I tried to get him to take a trip to the track with me and he's being a big wuss not wanting to beat on his car. Some people are so boring responsible. Anyway I agree I would spank him.
Funny thing is as soon as the new stangs come out he's buying one of those I expect the GT to be running mid 13's. Wish I had his money.
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Originally posted by 89305RS
if youre talking about the new GT those run 11.8@122mph.
if youre talking about the new GT those run 11.8@122mph.
Where did you get that from? Are you looking at the Porsche GT #s. Theres no way a 2005 Mustang GT is turning anywhere near 11's. The Cobra won't even do that nor will the new corvette or viper.
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hmm...
Damm kids, ya done it again....got the nissan freak here all involved....!
Anyways, I USED TO drive the rents 97 Altima. It was ok....for a four banger! lol!
THEN, the rents got a 98 Maxima with a 3.0 v6....and like someone else stated, at top speeds(like 120MPH) you could REALLY tell that it was comparable to pulling a yatch while breathing through a drinking straw, even more so, I'd say it's more like using a coffee stirrer instead of the straw.
But FWIW, the 3.0 v6 was/is a decently fast car as far as being a six. To elaborate, IMO i'd have to say that even with the newer Nissan's being "faster"..."faster" does'nt mean anything more than a mere few more horses, and just that...it's like saying you have a stock 307 instead of a 305 that you're gonna race a 400bbc with: the gains are very minute and no matter what, in the end, YOU'RE STILL GONNA LOSE!!! :lala:
HOWEVER, now since I'm thinking about it....I wonder how well an RB25 series, RB26 series(including the DETT version), and even a VG30DET powered Nissan would fair against a 3rd gen...meaning, how much less each engine would cause the Nissan to lose by(OF COURSE!!! )
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Anyways, I USED TO drive the rents 97 Altima. It was ok....for a four banger! lol!
THEN, the rents got a 98 Maxima with a 3.0 v6....and like someone else stated, at top speeds(like 120MPH) you could REALLY tell that it was comparable to pulling a yatch while breathing through a drinking straw, even more so, I'd say it's more like using a coffee stirrer instead of the straw.
But FWIW, the 3.0 v6 was/is a decently fast car as far as being a six. To elaborate, IMO i'd have to say that even with the newer Nissan's being "faster"..."faster" does'nt mean anything more than a mere few more horses, and just that...it's like saying you have a stock 307 instead of a 305 that you're gonna race a 400bbc with: the gains are very minute and no matter what, in the end, YOU'RE STILL GONNA LOSE!!! :lala:
HOWEVER, now since I'm thinking about it....I wonder how well an RB25 series, RB26 series(including the DETT version), and even a VG30DET powered Nissan would fair against a 3rd gen...meaning, how much less each engine would cause the Nissan to lose by(OF COURSE!!! )
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Where did you get that from? Are you looking at the Porsche GT #s. Theres no way a 2005 Mustang GT is turning anywhere near 11's. The Cobra won't even do that nor will the new corvette or viper.
Where did you get that from? Are you looking at the Porsche GT #s. Theres no way a 2005 Mustang GT is turning anywhere near 11's. The Cobra won't even do that nor will the new corvette or viper.
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I raced one at the track with my '95 MC Z34 and lost, a 15.0 to my 15.5. Then I raced him with the Camaro and returned the favor!
I raced one at the track with my '95 MC Z34 and lost, a 15.0 to my 15.5. Then I raced him with the Camaro and returned the favor!
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Originally posted by prOject-IrOc
yah i have dual cats. i am going to get the slp 1 3/4's sometime this month. i'm just trying to decide whether i want to take my cats off, or get some hi flow cats....?
no emissions for me!!
yah i have dual cats. i am going to get the slp 1 3/4's sometime this month. i'm just trying to decide whether i want to take my cats off, or get some hi flow cats....?
no emissions for me!!
The dual cats probably offer the best flow you could ask for, shoudn't need to take them off.
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L98 v. RB26DE...?!?!
Any thoughts on this one guys(and girls!)!?!?!?
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the l98 is a awsome motor and i think this race would be one sided.those altimas only look good on the dyno they dont really move that great .
the l98 is a awsome motor and i think this race would be one sided.those altimas only look good on the dyno they dont really move that great .
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i agree wit you 81. I just drove a 2001-2002 Nissan Maxima (Maxima is faster then the Altima) And i wasnt impressed and ppl make it such a hot shot car. I compared my L98 to the Maxima and the Maxima isnt in the same league. Jmo, Man i gave it some pedal, and just seemed not that fast. It just doesnt have *****
i agree wit you 81. I just drove a 2001-2002 Nissan Maxima (Maxima is faster then the Altima) And i wasnt impressed and ppl make it such a hot shot car. I compared my L98 to the Maxima and the Maxima isnt in the same league. Jmo, Man i gave it some pedal, and just seemed not that fast. It just doesnt have *****
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An '01 Maxima isn't going to be faster than a 04 Altima 3.5SE
An '01 Maxima isn't going to be faster than a 04 Altima 3.5SE
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