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Old 03-28-2005, 01:12 PM
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4th Gen VS IROC

Ok I have a friend, who has full exhaust, Ignition, ram air and a couple of suspension mods on his 2000 Camaro (V6), now my other buddy has an 89 IROC
With headers, catback, and K&N filters who do you think would win this one?
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What motor is in the IROC?
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would it matter? even a 305auto could take a v6
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i wouldnt be so sure, as i hear the 2000 cars 3.8 can go mid 15's which is past 305 LG4's
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Assuming "full exhaust" for the V6 means it also has headers/catback then I think the race would be pretty competitive between the two if the IROC has a 305 TPI auto with those mods. Does the v6 have a auto or 5spd, that would make a significant difference? Base power on the two engines would be pretty darn close (5 less hp but something like 40+ more ft-lbs for the V8). It then comes down to how strong each engine happens to be running with the mods and whether or not the V6 is equipped with a 5spd (which I think had a better stock rear gear, don't recall)...

If the IROC has the 305 TPI 5spd (hotter cam than the auto equipped 305 TPI with possibly better gears) or the 350 TPI with those mods I would think it would win pretty handily, assuming it's in tune and driven well, etc.

If it's one of the poor IROCs that go saddled with the 305 TBI it will probably lose, down on power pretty decently from the TPI cars...

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LG4's stopped production in 87 as that was also the first year of the LO3...Its most likely a 305TPI but you need to tell us morei nfo on the IROC. As long as its a decent running TPI car, it should have no problem taking down the 4th Gen, although they can roll for a V6.
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If there is a 350 in the IROC then I going to have to say the Iroc. but if there is a 305.... I don't know. to me that's a close call...
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my biased vote goes for the iroc, be it crammed with a 350 TPI, a 305 TBI, or a ****** ******* toad stool, the iroc will win
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any decent runnin TPI 305 should pull hard, especially if a manual car...
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why are we talking about l03's ? no l03 came in irocs.
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why are we talking about l03's ? no l03 came in irocs.
Yes they did. The 305 TPI was an option for a few years.
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Yes they did. The 305 TPI was an option for a few years.
*scratching my head* L03's are TBI's are they not? I don't think Iroc's had TBI's in them.......
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*scratching my head* L03's are TBI's are they not? I don't think Iroc's had TBI's in them.......
LO3's are indeed TBI. I have to look up the years but you could get an LO3 in certian year IROC's. In '92 you could also get the LB9 in an RS. However, GM made it an option and only like 100 or so were actually ordered that way.
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Originally posted by freestylzz
*scratching my head* L03's are TBI's are they not? I don't think Iroc's had TBI's in them.......
I've owned one before. It was only available in 88-89.
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so you could get a 305 TBI in an iroc?
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Well the IROC is a 305 auto, and the 2000 V6 is also auto.
We are going to run them tonight and see what the out come is.
My personal though is that they are going to run dead even.
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Originally posted by TraviZ
so you could get a 305 TBI in an iroc?
Sorry but you are wrong. iroc22 even said he owned one.

The tech data on the main page confirms this.

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MY 88 IROCZ is a 305 TPI with a T-5 transmission
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Scroll down to the 88 and 89 model year. 305 TBI IROC-Zzz.
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I dunno how my 89 305 tpi auto would do against a 2000 V6. Im only runnin 16.2 in the qtr. Newer technology would probably prevail. If it was an IROC TBI it would go down for sure. That is unless he throws down a 100 shot or so.
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damn i never knew irocs had tbi, thats sad
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damn i never knew irocs had tbi, thats sad
It is sad, but at least it was just the base option. There were four engine choices for the 88 and 89 model years.
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Well they raced last night. First race was from a dig and the Iroc ate the 6 out of the whole but the six caught up and only lost by about half a carlength. The second race was from a roll. The 4th gen picked up a car fron the roll and by 115 the V6 had the Iroc by a car.

So I guess from a roll the V6 is better than TPI?
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cuz tpi is a torque monster. sucks that lost in a roll. from what mph to what mph?
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they rolled from about 50-115
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damn i never knew irocs had tbi, thats sad
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so its a TPI 305 auto? if its not in perfect tune, cuz of being old and has some miles on it, it is to be expected... V6 4th gens are 15 second cars...
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Originally posted by MakeitQuick92RS
Well they raced last night. First race was from a dig and the Iroc ate the 6 out of the whole but the six caught up and only lost by about half a carlength. The second race was from a roll. The 4th gen picked up a car fron the roll and by 115 the V6 had the Iroc by a car.

So I guess from a roll the V6 is better than TPI?
sounds about right to me, remembering tpi kinda chokes itself to death up top.

Time for a HSR

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