1985WS6transam

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I have never raced before and I think I should get advice before looking to race my friends mustang on the street. We have a 1/4 mile spot set out with no cops so thats not a prob, but since i have never raced I dont really know how to do it, this probably sounds stupid to you guys but it is true. Should I just give it full throttle or what?
My second question is would I win against a 01 V6 mustang? no mods at all and not a great driver?
My car is a stock 305 TPI WS6. Any advice is greatly appriciated.
TIA
Dennis

Nate86

Step 1: Line up
Step 2: Press pedal to floor

Nate86

And yes, you will win.

Flash

Lol you forgot a few.

3. Hang on tight
4. keep her straight
5. DON'T LOSE TO A V6!!!

TBI92Camaro

dude you iwll ***** that V6. 305 TBI auto cars have no problem taking them down.....so you can kinda guyess where you stand. In good tune, youll ***** it pretty badly.

Wind Charger

Is the guy your racing pretty confident? If he is lay down some money and take it from him with a smile on your face. Heck, I know I would.

1985WS6transam

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No hes not confident but he does have some money so he probably wouldent mind laying some down. I always thought that the newer V6's were pretty fast. (lol I never told him I thought they were fast) I also thought that there was like a certain "way" to drive when racing besides putting my foot on the gas and going. Sounds good to me, I will be racing him when I get my car insured.

Nate86

Well, automatics are called that for a reason; that is, they do the shifting automatically for you. When you get into 5-speeds, it takes a while to learn how to get the best launches out of them. On the other hand, an auto car you can pretty much stomp it and go. Usually in a street race, a good 5-speed driver would beat an auto driver with an equally powered car.

Also, in high horsepower applications traction becomes an issue. Drivers have to know how to launch fast with as little traction loss as possible. You probably won't have to worry about this.

In drag racing, people usually try out different tunes and settings which may include powerbraking (bringing the revs up on the motor while holding the brake) to improve ETs, but on the street, I doubt that it will make that big of a difference.

Wind Charger

Go out and practice this a few times before you race. When your getting ready to launch, put your foot on the brake. Then gently put your foot on the gas untill right before you start power braking. After the third horn blast or light change, whatever your using to go put the go petal to the floor.

matt3383

Unless you have a shift kit or some work done to your trans, i would shift it man. That means lineing up with the guy and dropping the shifter to 1st. Do a power break, take it up to about 2krpm's and wait for the go. Launch it and get into the peddle slowly if your spinning, if not push a little faster. Once you hit near red line, before 5k RPM for me, click the shifter up to 2nd. By this time you should have walked him bad enough that he is going to want to try it from a roll $$

ShiftyCapone

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This is a good first race for you and you should win.

WaOnFiRe

Hahaha, funny comment...

WaOnFiRe

Seriously, you should hold the brake pedal and bring up the RPM just before it wan't to spin. When you need to go, let off the brake first and push the gas pedal from where you where holding it, to the floor. Should make you launch harder since your engine will be higher in the RPM range

1985WS6transam

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Thanks you guys, I will have to try this.

phoenix305

Don't do what freestylzz said you will destroy your tranny.

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

I don't call $2k transmission replacements a big suprise.

DuronClocker

iTrader: (1)

A stock car should never powerbrake to 2000RPM without the tires spinning. If you can hold the brakes enough to keep from spinning at 2000RPM, you'll fry the stock torque converter in no time.

I also have no idea why everyone says to put the shifter in first when you're going to race somebody. By no means does it make your car faster unless you have some serious work done. Take for example, my car, I have the stock automatic with no work done behind essentially a cammed LT1. Makes power to 6000RPM but the trans wants to shift at 4800RPM or so. So if I wanted to race the car to its full potential, I suppose I would hold it in first til around 6k and then hit 2nd. In a stock car, manually shifting an automatic will probably make you slower (assuming you hold first gear out past what the stock shfit point is). Especially on a TPI, you don't want the engine to be struggling for air from 4700RPM til 5000RPM or so and then drop down in RPMs and be 300RPM higher than you would've been normally. TPIs make power down low, so let the trans shift when it wants to and it'll shift you better into your powerband.

Hold the brake and press the gas enough to bring your RPMs to around 1200-1300RPM or so. When the light turns green, roll into the gas (not to the floor or you'll be spinning) and pop off the brake..

Demon355

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Exactly what Duron said...DO IT!

Sidewayz28

your better win or were all goign to be dissapointed!

Nate86

Actually, after looking at the specs of the 01 Mustang, the 3.8L V6 they have in there is pretty stout. 190 HP @ 5250 RPM and 220 ft/lbs. @ 2750 RPM. It has a 3.27 rear gear ratio.

You'll still win, I'm sure... I just underestimated the amount of power these little Ford V6s were capable of.

Sidewayz28

i was just kidding..but beat him

stu

190 hp out of a V6 is good? Really?

Nate86

Not that good, but when you consider my V8 has only about 150 HP...

Ray87Z

Did we establish if it's a 5spd Stang yet? If so the race could be very close. The 99+ 190hp or better V6 Stangs aren't much slower than a 305 TPI car. Your saving grace is you have a 85 w/ the better cam or you would likely lose.

Make sure your car is in tune, and really practice the launch technique set out here. Get it down to launching as hard as you can w/ very little tire spin and you'll be set to win hopefully, assuming your car is in tune. If you don't have a posi rear, or it's worn out, traction will be an issue. Don't just show up and race not knowing how to launch your car. Because if you blow the launch and the Stang doesn't you could easily lose this race.

1985WS6transam

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No, the Mustang is an automatic, but i forgot to mention that it is a convertable. I do have a posi rear. I just did a tuneup on my car and I am getting ready to insure it within the next month, which is when i will race him, it is running great when it is warm, now all i have to do is install my new Cold Start Injector for it to be perfect. I didnt know that the 85 had a better cam, I always thought that it was just the TPI that made them better thanks for the info.

One question though, my car has 120,000 miles on it, it appears that it was taken care of well though, if I dont spin the tires but still launch hard will it ruin my tranny or rear end??

Wind Charger

as long as you dont neutral drop it or something like that a couple of times shouldnt hurt the car any.

rocluvr0013

Nahh unless your using slicks

urbanhunter44

iTrader: (3)

I think you can take him. Those ford autos are sucky and the 'verts were heavy, not to mention you have about 20 hp on him and alot more tq.

rocluvr0013

Just to put this in perspective my full exhaust/free mods/decent tune 110k mile 89 350 iroc coupe with some relatively decent tires, will jump a car or two off the line on a brand new auto mustang and keep em there atleast...

Maybe its a fact freak i dunno you tell me, but either way you will have no problem. Learn to launch well (Key aspect of racing with TPI) and watch 'im in your rear view!

nidyanazo

You should pick on v8's...Since that's what you have. My girlfriend's 01 v6 stang feels 95% as fast as my thirdgen.