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87 T/A vs 05 Mustang GT
Well I was actually worried about this one but I had to try him out, It was my buddy and his 05 Mustang GT 5 speed, i know these things are getting pretty ballzy and hes already got a nice exaust on it(no clue what kind) so heres how it went down: started from a red light both launched with no wheel spin, he of course has the upper hand being a manual (and a pretty good driver), i get the jump on him immdiatly and by the time i hit 100 or so i think he had long gave up, so next we went from a roll i had the horn so we matched up about 2200 rpm in 2nd for me, and there the horn went, raped him even harder, again he gave up by the time i let off, so well all i have to say is that im not too afraid of the stock GTs anymore, and i wasted about 5 gal. of gas.
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Whats your 1/4? High 12's? I am running 13.5s with the stock heads and cam. So you must be alot quicker. I actually came across an 05 Mustang today. Wasnt in my car though, had the mothers GT. I like to steal it here and there lol.
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slip in a set of 3.42's and walk him a little more.
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Originally posted by 89IrocZ350TPI
Whats your 1/4? High 12's? I am running 13.5s with the stock heads and cam. So you must be alot quicker. I actually came across an 05 Mustang today. Wasnt in my car though, had the mothers GT. I like to steal it here and there lol.
Whats your 1/4? High 12's? I am running 13.5s with the stock heads and cam. So you must be alot quicker. I actually came across an 05 Mustang today. Wasnt in my car though, had the mothers GT. I like to steal it here and there lol.
Going from a 9 to a 10 bolt is a pain in the neck. Going from a 2.77 9-bolt to a 3.42 10 bolt cost me around 1,200.
Yea thank *** i dont have a 9 bolt on my t/a thats probably one of my next changes, the 2.73's can use some real help, thats the reason i never changed the gears on my camaro, should be easy on the t/a though
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My mothers got an 04 GT Convert with a 4-speed auto. Its not too bad. I think it runs in the 14.7 range.
My mothers got an 04 GT Convert with a 4-speed auto. Its not too bad. I think it runs in the 14.7 range.
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Going from a 9 to a 10 bolt is a pain in the neck. Going from a 2.77 9-bolt to a 3.42 10 bolt cost me around 1,200.
Going from a 9 to a 10 bolt is a pain in the neck. Going from a 2.77 9-bolt to a 3.42 10 bolt cost me around 1,200.
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why is it a pain? It's a direct swap and the rear end can be found used for about $100 bucks. Why the bloody hell did you pay $1200 for that? You got SOOOO ripped off lol
why is it a pain? It's a direct swap and the rear end can be found used for about $100 bucks. Why the bloody hell did you pay $1200 for that? You got SOOOO ripped off lol
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We actually now own a 2006 Mustang GT 5-speed car and my SOTP guess would be mid 13s in good weather. The car pulls better than the 99-04 cars (which I have seen plenty of high 13s to 14.0s bone stock).
Definately a nice kill as exhaust would make his car a bit faster, but you should have easily had him still!
Definately a nice kill as exhaust would make his car a bit faster, but you should have easily had him still!
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
We actually now own a 2006 Mustang GT 5-speed car and my SOTP guess would be mid 13s in good weather. The car pulls better than the 99-04 cars (which I have seen plenty of high 13s to 14.0s bone stock).
Definately a nice kill as exhaust would make his car a bit faster, but you should have easily had him still!
We actually now own a 2006 Mustang GT 5-speed car and my SOTP guess would be mid 13s in good weather. The car pulls better than the 99-04 cars (which I have seen plenty of high 13s to 14.0s bone stock).
Definately a nice kill as exhaust would make his car a bit faster, but you should have easily had him still!
How do you like it for a daily driver? Or how would you like it as a daily driver? whichever applies
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the 05/06 stangs actually dont have any more power than an older 93-97 LT1 car did. Their main advantage (and the reason they can run mid 13s bone stock) is the fact that when launched right are capable of pulling a 1.8 short time right off the factory floor, tires and all.
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Originally posted by urbanhunter44
the 05/06 stangs actually dont have any more power than an older 93-97 LT1 car did. Their main advantage (and the reason they can run mid 13s bone stock) is the fact that when launched right are capable of pulling a 1.8 short time right off the factory floor, tires and all.
the 05/06 stangs actually dont have any more power than an older 93-97 LT1 car did. Their main advantage (and the reason they can run mid 13s bone stock) is the fact that when launched right are capable of pulling a 1.8 short time right off the factory floor, tires and all.
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Originally posted by leeperryracing
slip in a set of 3.42's and walk him a little more.
slip in a set of 3.42's and walk him a little more.
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Well the factory doesnt have 20" rims, but dealers have been putting them on cars for a long time. The dealer we got ours at had a black 06 vert with 20s, Borla axle back, and steeda lowering springs on it!
As far as a DD goes, the car would make a very nice one I think. Its comfortable, good stereo (we got the shaker 500 not the 1000) and just feels good all around. Granted we only have about 200 miles on the car, but I think its only going to break in and feel better!
As far as a DD goes, the car would make a very nice one I think. Its comfortable, good stereo (we got the shaker 500 not the 1000) and just feels good all around. Granted we only have about 200 miles on the car, but I think its only going to break in and feel better!
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Well the factory doesnt have 20" rims, but dealers have been putting them on cars for a long time. The dealer we got ours at had a black 06 vert with 20s, Borla axle back, and steeda lowering springs on it!
As far as a DD goes, the car would make a very nice one I think. Its comfortable, good stereo (we got the shaker 500 not the 1000) and just feels good all around. Granted we only have about 200 miles on the car, but I think its only going to break in and feel better!
Well the factory doesnt have 20" rims, but dealers have been putting them on cars for a long time. The dealer we got ours at had a black 06 vert with 20s, Borla axle back, and steeda lowering springs on it!
As far as a DD goes, the car would make a very nice one I think. Its comfortable, good stereo (we got the shaker 500 not the 1000) and just feels good all around. Granted we only have about 200 miles on the car, but I think its only going to break in and feel better!
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People say the same about having 15s or 16s on our cars... I personally think the 05-06s can get away with 20s, but do love the look of my brothers stock 17s!
I will say this, you cant really appreciate this or any car unless you get near it, under it and in it. And I personally didnt start to love it until we got to the dealer and realized it was going to come home with us! Now I flat out love the car, and even with my drag racing blood, I am advising my brother to leave it stock for a while!
I will say this, you cant really appreciate this or any car unless you get near it, under it and in it. And I personally didnt start to love it until we got to the dealer and realized it was going to come home with us! Now I flat out love the car, and even with my drag racing blood, I am advising my brother to leave it stock for a while!
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why on earth would someone have 20's on a mustang? 20 inch rims from the dealer? never seen that before but then again i havent been lookin to hard. i wouldnt want 20's on my sports car.
why on earth would someone have 20's on a mustang? 20 inch rims from the dealer? never seen that before but then again i havent been lookin to hard. i wouldnt want 20's on my sports car.
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Truthfully, i do like huge rims, just not for any of my applications, my bro-in law has a silverado with 24's and i like the look and as long as you upgrade the hell outta suspesion you can get a good ride out of it still.
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My car had the austrian 9 bolt rear so you couldnt just drop anything in it.. I couldnt find any gears for it except 3.70's. So I got a 10 bolt and had to have it setup for disc brakes.
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Yea i currently have the same rear end on my camaro but with discs, i just never had the money back then to change it, with my t/a i can swap out gears fairly easily, but am gonna do a whole swap like mentiioned above.
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The new GTs are way too overrated. People think they are the best thing in the world and there not. It dosent suprise me that he killed it. My friend and I were in his 96 Sentra and his car has like 250k miles on it and we ran with a 05 V6 Mustang and the car beat us but barely. He had us by less than a car lenght. I know this isnt a V8 stang but my friends Sentra is pos!
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Originally posted by banditfirebird
The new GTs are way too overrated. People think they are the best thing in the world and there not. It dosent suprise me that he killed it. My friend and I were in his 96 Sentra and his car has like 250k miles on it and we ran with a 05 V6 Mustang and the car beat us but barely. He had us by less than a car lenght. I know this isnt a V8 stang but my friends Sentra is pos!
The new GTs are way too overrated. People think they are the best thing in the world and there not. It dosent suprise me that he killed it. My friend and I were in his 96 Sentra and his car has like 250k miles on it and we ran with a 05 V6 Mustang and the car beat us but barely. He had us by less than a car lenght. I know this isnt a V8 stang but my friends Sentra is pos!
OHHH what you have read on Fbody web sites, alright. When I need an EXPERT opinion, I will look you up!
I HAVE one sitting in the garage about 5 feet from me right now. I just got back in from driving it, and also know a lot of personal friends who have owned them, and gone fast with them... you might think Im Mustang biased (we do own 6 in my immediate family) but I also love Fbodies and all kinds of cars and can say for someone to say its over rated because their fiend raced a V6 and beat it... is pretty sad!
Ill let the people on the board here decide whose opinion to take, the kid who owns one, drives it, and has had past experience with them, or the kid whose friend raced a V6 version!
Edit: Oh yeah I gave your friend credit for beating the V6 when he didnt even beat it... Congrats!
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wooooh mr. mustang! i have an opinion and can state it. that is what message boards are all about, right? Dont get me wrong I like mustangs and have always dreamed of owning a Saleen, but i just dont like the new ones. In fact my next car/truck will most likely be a F-150 Lightning. I am a huge fan of Camaros and i dont like the new concept so dont think im trying to dis mustangs. AND im not making my opinion on when my friend raced the V6. I know the V6 mustang is not a performance car. Now the reason I think they are over rated is because of there price. Im not saying the GT is a slow car at all and i know that a Gt would smoke me with the tbi, i just dont think i would buy a Gt unless Ford dropped there price down about 10k. And for you to get all in my face like that because you dont like my opinion is bullcrap. I have the right to say anything i please unless if effects somelse in a violent or threating way.
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Congrats on beating a basically stock mustang with a heads/cam 350.
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they may run 13s with the right driver, but from what ive seen, the average driver has no chance of 13s.
Ive seen 3 05 GTs and the track. the coupe did 14.6 and the two verts did low 15s. consistantly
Ive seen 3 05 GTs and the track. the coupe did 14.6 and the two verts did low 15s. consistantly
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Originally posted by ZQ8Dude
they may run 13s with the right driver, but from what ive seen, the average driver has no chance of 13s.
Ive seen 3 05 GTs and the track. the coupe did 14.6 and the two verts did low 15s. consistantly
they may run 13s with the right driver, but from what ive seen, the average driver has no chance of 13s.
Ive seen 3 05 GTs and the track. the coupe did 14.6 and the two verts did low 15s. consistantly
Talk about bad drivers lol. Ive seen a stock 99 GT run 14.0. Thats with the 260 hp 4.6 motor. So the 300 hp motor should easily be in the 13's.
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wooooh mr. mustang! i have an opinion and can state it. that is what message boards are all about, right? Dont get me wrong I like mustangs and have always dreamed of owning a Saleen, but i just dont like the new ones. In fact my next car/truck will most likely be a F-150 Lightning. I am a huge fan of Camaros and i dont like the new concept so dont think im trying to dis mustangs. AND im not making my opinion on when my friend raced the V6. I know the V6 mustang is not a performance car. Now the reason I think they are over rated is because of there price. Im not saying the GT is a slow car at all and i know that a Gt would smoke me with the tbi, i just dont think i would buy a Gt unless Ford dropped there price down about 10k. And for you to get all in my face like that because you dont like my opinion is bullcrap. I have the right to say anything i please unless if effects somelse in a violent or threating way.
wooooh mr. mustang! i have an opinion and can state it. that is what message boards are all about, right? Dont get me wrong I like mustangs and have always dreamed of owning a Saleen, but i just dont like the new ones. In fact my next car/truck will most likely be a F-150 Lightning. I am a huge fan of Camaros and i dont like the new concept so dont think im trying to dis mustangs. AND im not making my opinion on when my friend raced the V6. I know the V6 mustang is not a performance car. Now the reason I think they are over rated is because of there price. Im not saying the GT is a slow car at all and i know that a Gt would smoke me with the tbi, i just dont think i would buy a Gt unless Ford dropped there price down about 10k. And for you to get all in my face like that because you dont like my opinion is bullcrap. I have the right to say anything i please unless if effects somelse in a violent or threating way.
Ok so you, a TBI owner, wouldnt buy one of the best bang for buck new cars out there (my brother got his on order for $24,500). So you want them to put the car out for $14,000??? Yeah, I guess Ford will miss their ONE customer in you!
I will let all you guys know what the car runs. My brother would be the average driver as he doesnt race and hasent been driving stick very long, and I will be what the car can run (I have been driving sticks for a Long time, and have yet to be beat by anyone in any car ) My guess by how it feels in this good air we have, is 13.5s! I have only launched it a couple times (300 miles on the car) and can say they come out of the hole very nice!
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Congrats on beating a basically stock mustang with a heads/cam 350.
Congrats on beating a basically stock mustang with a heads/cam 350.
25th, dont worry, too many people here hate mustangs because they have been beat by them too many times. Bang for the buck goes to the mustang. Has for a long time. Probably one of the main reasons there is no Fbody at this time.
Hopefully when the camaro comes back it wont be an overpriced POS.
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Yeah, The best bang for the buck in its class goes to the GT. Overall id give it to the new Vette. I think the new Camaros will be pricey. My guess would be around 35K with the LS2 option.
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Congrats on beating a basically stock mustang with a heads/cam 350.
Congrats on beating a basically stock mustang with a heads/cam 350.
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Im with you on this one.
25th, dont worry, too many people here hate mustangs because they have been beat by them too many times. Bang for the buck goes to the mustang. Has for a long time. Probably one of the main reasons there is no Fbody at this time.
Hopefully when the camaro comes back it wont be an overpriced POS.
Im with you on this one.
25th, dont worry, too many people here hate mustangs because they have been beat by them too many times. Bang for the buck goes to the mustang. Has for a long time. Probably one of the main reasons there is no Fbody at this time.
Hopefully when the camaro comes back it wont be an overpriced POS.
BTW: I have only been beat by one mustang, and that was one of my best friends whos family owns 4 Fox-Bodies, and that was when i had a 305, and his was on Drag Radials, and during the whole post i talked up the mustang. But i dont drag race any kid who revs on me, so i would have probably been beat by more than one if i did.
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
And your opinion is crap, I have the right to say that too, right??? Not violent or threatening, but pretty much common sense by now!
Ok so you, a TBI owner, wouldnt buy one of the best bang for buck new cars out there (my brother got his on order for $24,500). So you want them to put the car out for $14,000??? Yeah, I guess Ford will miss their ONE customer in you!
I will let all you guys know what the car runs. My brother would be the average driver as he doesnt race and hasent been driving stick very long, and I will be what the car can run (I have been driving sticks for a Long time, and have yet to be beat by anyone in any car ) My guess by how it feels in this good air we have, is 13.5s! I have only launched it a couple times (300 miles on the car) and can say they come out of the hole very nice!
And your opinion is crap, I have the right to say that too, right??? Not violent or threatening, but pretty much common sense by now!
Ok so you, a TBI owner, wouldnt buy one of the best bang for buck new cars out there (my brother got his on order for $24,500). So you want them to put the car out for $14,000??? Yeah, I guess Ford will miss their ONE customer in you!
I will let all you guys know what the car runs. My brother would be the average driver as he doesnt race and hasent been driving stick very long, and I will be what the car can run (I have been driving sticks for a Long time, and have yet to be beat by anyone in any car ) My guess by how it feels in this good air we have, is 13.5s! I have only launched it a couple times (300 miles on the car) and can say they come out of the hole very nice!
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U guys are seriously asses!! , people like you guys will just come in and talk **** on anyone or anything, LOOK HOW MY POST STARTED!!! ................
i should be able to talk to it without sarcastic bastards comming and being a$$holes. . next time should i put no jerks please in the title of the post?
U guys are seriously asses!! , people like you guys will just come in and talk **** on anyone or anything, LOOK HOW MY POST STARTED!!! ................
i should be able to talk to it without sarcastic bastards comming and being a$$holes. . next time should i put no jerks please in the title of the post?
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Are you still on this? I would hate to see you with a REAL problem you probaly wouldnt know what to do. When i went to a ford dealership i couldnt find a new gt under 30k. But hey that was a year ago. Oh and 87tpikid im extremely sorry how your post ended up. I guess ill just keep my opinions to myself on this forum because we got people that think its not ok to have them. (dont want to get anybody else pissed off!) oh, and if your so in love with your mustang(s) why are you on a GM forum?
Are you still on this? I would hate to see you with a REAL problem you probaly wouldnt know what to do. When i went to a ford dealership i couldnt find a new gt under 30k. But hey that was a year ago. Oh and 87tpikid im extremely sorry how your post ended up. I guess ill just keep my opinions to myself on this forum because we got people that think its not ok to have them. (dont want to get anybody else pissed off!) oh, and if your so in love with your mustang(s) why are you on a GM forum?
Does anyone really expect everyone to agree with their "opinions"? Get real.
Face it folks. Ford has done a lot of things right with the mustang. It outsells all of GM's "performance" cars combined. Overrated? Ha. That's funny. RWD, 300hp cool looks, lightweight, and readily available for $27k. Lets see what GM has to counter this.......uh......oh yea nothing. Sales figures don't lie people. I love GM to death but just because you have a car that may run 1 second quicker in the 1/4 than a competitor does not justify the huge cost. Ford is not begging people to buy the mustang. However, new GTO's that were 34k are now down to 29k in a desparate attempt to unload the last of this failing fleet.
This thread is dead. Peace.
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