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Old 03-14-2007, 09:18 PM
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Engine: 350 Vortec
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Can I beat these cars?

Alright, there are a few cars around that I would like to know if i can beat.

My car is a 1985 Trans Am, mods:

1.Freshly rebuilt 350 .040 over
2.Edelbrock 600 carb
3.Hooker Competition Shorty Headers
4.Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake
5.Fresh Rebuilt 700R4 trans with 2500 stall and Transgo Shiftkit

The cars I am wanting to know if I can beat are:

1.2000 Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC 5 speed (stock)
2.Mazda RX8 (stock)
3.1998 Mustang GT 4.6l 5 speed (stock)
4.1997 Mustang GT 4.6l 5 speed (may be slightly modded, not sure)
5.1985 Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z 305 (stock)
6.1994 Pontiac Trans Am LT1 (Ram Air hood and exaust)

Any help would be appreciated. If anyone would like to tell me how much horsepower my cay might have I would appreciate that as well.
Old 03-14-2007, 09:53 PM
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my opinion is

1.maybe
2. probably not
3. no
4. no
5.yes
6. no

assuming you have a factory stock 350, stock cam/compression ect, and having no idea what year engine, comp ratio or anything about you motor its hard to tell. a standard new GM 350 is around 205 horse.

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 85T/A350
Alright, there are a few cars around that I would like to know if i can beat.

My car is a 1985 Trans Am, mods:

1.Freshly rebuilt 350 .040 over
2.Edelbrock 600 carb
3.Hooker Competition Shorty Headers
4.Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake
5.Fresh Rebuilt 700R4 trans with 2500 stall and Transgo Shiftkit

The cars I am wanting to know if I can beat are:

1.2000 Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC 5 speed (stock)
2.Mazda RX8 (stock)
3.1998 Mustang GT 4.6l 5 speed (stock)
4.1997 Mustang GT 4.6l 5 speed (may be slightly modded, not sure)
5.1985 Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z 305 (stock)
6.1994 Pontiac Trans Am LT1 (Ram Air hood and exaust)

My opinion;

1) yes
2) Drivers race
3) no
4) no
5) yes
6) no
Old 03-15-2007, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 85T/A350
Alright, there are a few cars around that I would like to know if i can beat.

My car is a 1985 Trans Am, mods:

1.Freshly rebuilt 350 .040 over
2.Edelbrock 600 carb
3.Hooker Competition Shorty Headers
4.Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake
5.Fresh Rebuilt 700R4 trans with 2500 stall and Transgo Shiftkit

Your heads and cam arn't mentioned, and those are key to whether or not your setup is gonna be real quick. I'll leave my guess's until you post that info up... right now I think you'd beat all but the 94 LT1 car, and the RX8 IF the guy can really drive, that car takes a lot ot really get the most out of it.
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Car: 1987 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 350 Vortec
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
The heads are 305 heads. Do not know the castings. They have been machined but not ported or polished. The cam is new but not much or at all bigger than stock. Would I really have that much trouble out of a stock 4.6 Mustang? To the one guy, Im pretty sure my motor makes more than 205 horsepower. Just a guess tho. Also,my car has 2in true duals an glasspack mufflers if that means anything.

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i would think that 2" duals are restricting the engine a bit
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Anybody else got an opinion?
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Car: 1986 Camaro SC
Engine: Bolt-on/cam 305
Transmission: 700R4 w/ 2500stall
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Originally Posted by 85T/A350
The heads are 305 heads. Do not know the castings. They have been machined but not ported or polished. The cam is new but not much or at all bigger than stock. Would I really have that much trouble out of a stock 4.6 Mustang? To the one guy, Im pretty sure my motor makes more than 205 horsepower. Just a guess tho. Also,my car has 2in true duals an glasspack mufflers if that means anything.
Well, glasspack mufflers blow, that was my first through. 2" each on the duals should be ok.. Stock cam and heads, I'd bet you're around 220hp, with a pretty generous amt of torque. You didn't mention your gears, I'll assume non-posi 2.73's, which arn't doing you much good. The 4.6L stangs you mentioned arn't rocketships either, but with the 5spd and good driving should launch as well as you, and pull on the top. The LT1 Camaro will certianly pull you. The '85 Iroc should be a nice race, and the Civic and Rx8 could both be drivers races, those cars both require good technique to pull a solid launch, so from a dig is your best bet, the Rx8 will certianly pull you on top, the Civic is probably about even from a roll, but you should easily out-launch him.
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My rearend is a non-posi 3.08. One of the Mustang drivers cannot drive his car hardly at all.
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1.WIN...NO DOUBT!! they ARENT that fast...
2.id say a close race...
3.win...not the DOHC 4.6 ur fine
4.close race again...especially not knowing what mods are done...
5.close race...but i think you will win since your 350 is built up a bit
6.call me foolish, but if you know how to really drive your car...im gonna say close race! i know the lt1 ram air is a quick car...but your not exactly stock either...and i think that someone estimation of 250hp on your motor is a bit low...especially if your heads arent stock...but your cam specs would help more as to find out what you are exactly putting out...
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Your details are pretty vauge. No one can say for sure with that little amount of information.
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

you can probably beat all of them except the trans am
Old 03-20-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

if you can beat teh 305, you can get the stangs, my 02 stang used to pull my L03 when stock, and it pulled on NPI stangs stock

civic: rape
RX8: they are handeling cars, not really all that fast in a straight line, i think you have em

only thing i think u have problem with is the LT1
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

The ricers no prob...

The mustangs will kill you though...
We need mroe info on the car...
Spend $225 and put a freakin cam in it!!
Then there will be no mor questions
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

i just performed an engine swap in my camaro... my 350 has just about all the same crap as his and i got the bigger edelbrock cam and lifter kit... but i don't have a carburator i'm using the original 305 TBI. same trans and all... bored .40 over... headers... uh... vortec heads... when i got it from the guy he said it had "performance pistons" in it, whatever that is... he showed me a pic of the engine open with them in it... can i kick these cars asses? can i beat the guy who started this thread just cuz of the cam? i got the same trans but no shift kit... would that really help me out? would posi traction help me out alot too? about how much horsepower gain could i get from posi and a shift kit on my trans... thanks

oh and i wanna turn it into a 383 stroker... about how much is this gonna cost me once i got the 400 crankshaft... does it really add on a large amount of horsepower also?

would a holley carb help me out...

sorry so many questions, i know i'm ramblin' on lookin' stupid... just lookin' at my options... seeing what are good choices.... thanks for the help anyone
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

Carb will help you, posi and gears will help you, shift kit will help you. Do those before you spend any more money on the engine internals.
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

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sorry so many questions, i know i'm ramblin' on lookin' stupid... just lookin' at my options... seeing what are good choices.... thanks for the help anyone
More reading, less talking.

In all seriousness, TBi without a tune on a larger bore cammed motor is probably leaving a vast amount of power on the table. I wouldn't do a thing until it was tuned. Then gears, posi, shiftkit, and converter - those won't increase your horsepower a bit, but they'll help make the most of it. A carb might be easier than TBI, and ultimately can be tuned easier, and support higher power levels w/ less $ invested.
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

Originally Posted by 1990_RS350
oh and i wanna turn it into a 383 stroker... about how much is this gonna cost me once i got the 400 crankshaft... does it really add on a large amount of horsepower also?
It will add more torque than horsepower and probably cost you upwards of 1K.
Old 03-24-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

I appreciate you jacking my thread. Anyway, the guy with LT1 Trans Am and he also owns one of the Mustangs in question sold them both and bought a 4th gen Z28 LS1. I am not going to even ask about that.lol
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Re: Can I beat these cars?

If the civic is just a stock Civic, non Si, than you should be able to beat it no problem.

Just a SOHC VTEC motor....my acclaim from back in the day beat one, so no doubt a T/A can.

I just love how someone said you'd beat the rice like it was a rape.


Obviously they havent been to their local dragstrips recently....
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