TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
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TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
I have a 89 Iroc l98 motor and i just bought edelbrock performer heads 2.02 int 1.60 exhedelbrock TPI high flow intake scorpion 1.6 roller rockers comp cam .495 int lift .502 exh lift 110 lobe sep, all roller cam. i got new injectors and everything. hydro cam by the way. Ok the motor runs awsome while holding the throttle open a little but it wont idle for crap. all the sensors are plugged in and new tps and idle air. i drove it around the block and it has crazy power but it wont idle for crap. Im at aloss any help please
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
check for vaccuum leaks
check the voltage at the new tps, should be 0.54 volts closed and should increase to 4.0 volts as you open the throttle.
check the voltage at the new tps, should be 0.54 volts closed and should increase to 4.0 volts as you open the throttle.
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
ok thanks for the info. so just curious is the cam i put in it to big for the computer?
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
White'89 is right. You have to tune the ECM according to the new engine specifications.
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
Any Trouble codes or "check engine "light?
Is the IAS Motor working (yes, I realize it is "new"), that does not mean it is working? TPS voltage should be .54 V closed and around 5V @ WOT. Did you set your minimum idle speed?
Check the manifold vacuum, if your manifold vacuum is low (under 12-14") at idle, your ECM will not be able to compensate.
You also have replaced the injectors, did you go stock size or larger? Large injectors and low vacuum will cause all kinds of problems.
Is your fuel pressure set to stock levels or higher than stock?
Are you running the stock MAF System or a later Speed Density system?
Is the camshaft a "computer" type cam? Or something else. That is a lot of cam for a stock ECU to deal with. Don't get me wrong, that is not a HUGE cam, but it takes very little in the cam department before it starts causing problems.
Is the IAS Motor working (yes, I realize it is "new"), that does not mean it is working? TPS voltage should be .54 V closed and around 5V @ WOT. Did you set your minimum idle speed?
Check the manifold vacuum, if your manifold vacuum is low (under 12-14") at idle, your ECM will not be able to compensate.
You also have replaced the injectors, did you go stock size or larger? Large injectors and low vacuum will cause all kinds of problems.
Is your fuel pressure set to stock levels or higher than stock?
Are you running the stock MAF System or a later Speed Density system?
Is the camshaft a "computer" type cam? Or something else. That is a lot of cam for a stock ECU to deal with. Don't get me wrong, that is not a HUGE cam, but it takes very little in the cam department before it starts causing problems.
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
The 110 LSA on your new cam probably has alot more overlap than stock which causes low idle vacuum. The low idle vacuum causes the ECM to think you are under a load at idle and is probably dumping fuel into your engine thus bogging it down at idle. If you have access to a laptop with datalogging capability, you should be able to see the problem fairly quickly.
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
I almost have the same thing. Not to hijack but im interested to see what the solution is. My cam is a little different its a little lower on the lift but almost the same specs. The vacuum is low about 12". The only question I have is how do you tune the ecm but its best left to a different forum all together.
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I almost have the same thing. Not to hijack but im interested to see what the solution is. My cam is a little different its a little lower on the lift but almost the same specs. The vacuum is low about 12". The only question I have is how do you tune the ecm but its best left to a different forum all together.
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
what kind of tune did you get? no offense but if your got a good tune you wouldn't have this problem
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Re: TPI idle problems New heads cam intake
Thanks badmoon47 I'm leaning more towards tuning myself since its 85 I'm gonna change to a higher baud rate ecm and go tuning. Thans for the advise.
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