1992_25t_1letpi

I was wondering how much more hp a cold air intake system would add to my car. Plus will this keep the engine temperature lower also? Don't know much about that stuff...

Ron Mullins

Couldn't tell you how much hp it added but it deffinetly cooled down my engine.
http://www.geocities.com/91formula/ramair.html

Z-Man 85

How does it cool down an engine??

Ron Mullins

Its getting cold air from the outside so it cools down the engine. Instead of getting hot air from under the hood around the engine.

Iroc n roll

As far as hp goes, don't expect cold air to give you more than 5. But, let remember that little things add up. I catagorize this under the "free mods". If you do it yourself a cold air intake is a must do IMO, even though your not going to pop wheelies or anything because of it

88gta305

Just finished installing the SLP CAI on my GTA, and I hate to say it, the difference is seat of the pants noticable.
Also, the installation looks really good (factory good)

Cheers

Richard

Iroc n roll

This is not to be offensive to anyone, just the psych in me
I am always very skeptical of seat of the pants results even in my own car. It's due to a phenomenon called a confirmation bias. What this is is our natural tendency to look for information to confirm our own beliefs. And it is extremely hard to get around. I am aware of it and still succum to it. I do something to my car and then drive it around, because I did somthing to it I'm looking for improvements. Because you are looking you actually find them. Maybe something sounds different or the car behaves a bit different and it can be translated into a feeling of more power.
Unfortunately the only dyno I've seen of a CAI was only about 5hp and it was on a big motor. I'll try and find it for you guys. Maybe if there was a difference it wasn't the cold air so much as it was just opening up a bottleneck in your system?

Do you have any pics of the system installed?

Gta-Paladin

Iroc n roll

If someone wants expects a SOTP difference, they can will themselves into it existing. No you're not all psychopaths now.. It's natural

Iroc n roll

Yes, thats exactly what I said. It's a natural phenomenon, not a sickness.

Gta-Paladin

MAn you know how it is on the Ghetto of the thirdgen.org boards (tosses up gang signs and props and peace signs and middle fingers and everything to al his dead living and future homies allies and enemies). You gots to watch yo back f00 becuz people be flamin n stuffs. its like a dogz wit rabiez foo everyone bite choo s00na or latah. Flames is da inevitable

RESPECT

Iroc n roll

I think I missed something

Gta-Paladin

No, nothing
*takes his pills*

88gta305

Iroc n Roll,
If you were referring to me about the pics, I will take a couple this weekend and post em.

Cheers

Richard

Iroc n roll

Yes I was, thank you. I have never actually seen SLP's intake installed on a car. Do you have the single or dual inatke?

88gta305

Its the single system. I still have the battery on the drivers side.
At the moment, I am still trying to correctly relocate the charcoal canister.
This weekend I will be installing an AFPR and new injectors, so I will do it then.

Cheers

Richard

mtccl

What he was trying to say is that you were coming off like a babbling overeducated idiot. Sorry it's just the ******* in me.

As for the CAI...you will notice a difference in performance particularly if you use a good filter such as a K&N. I would have guesstimated 10-12hp on mine.

Guesstimate: To make a reasonable assumption as to the approximate validity of ones assertion without the benefit of calibrated instrumentation.

Iroc n roll

I'm sure the Rednecks that are not ignorant are offended by your comment. What do you do when someone posts about physics or any other "over-educated" babble? Call them an idiot and say you "guesstimate" 10hp from removing the screens on your MAF?

Zepher

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Here is mine,
(do I get 10hp since mine is a dual cold air? )

Ron Mullins

I just got SLP's catalog today. They sell the complete dual kit and then all the peices seperate except for the piece I want. The "Y" piece that attaches to the TB. WTF.

That looks great Zepher....

Iroc n roll

I'm impressed. That does look very nice, and less restrictive than the original piece. Just a few questions. You look like you have a 85-87 setup....but where is your MAF? Did you convert to SD? Where would you even put your MAF with that CAI?

Zepher

iTrader: (1)

Thanks,

That is correct, my TPI is an 87. I converted to SD so that I could use this CAI.
If you have MAF, there is no way you can put the MAF in there unless you were to move the radiator forward about 2-3".

Iroc n roll

Ah-ha. So I guess this is for you SD guys only. I don't remember seeing that on SLP's site....must have missed it. What about the Single tube design?

88gta305

Iroc,
The single system leaves the MAF right where it is. The CAI box with the K&N filter sits where the original filter can and Charcoal canister used to sit.
The original bellows and tubing are replaced with new tubing which has guides rivetted into it to help guide the airflow.
I will post pics this weekend so you can see what is all included.
The quality of the SLP stuff is first class though. Just my opinion.

Cheers

Richard

Iroc n roll

Thanks for the info. I must admit it does look very nice and quality. It is expensive though.

mtccl

Zepher....that is one of the coolest looking CAI's I've ever seen. I'll be that thing gets you at least 10hp extra...what do you think IrocnRoll?

Iroc n roll

Well well if it isn't our ingnorant ******* little friend mtccl. I guess since we're taking the childish route here lets take a gander at your "sled". ........ well how about that.

Guido

:lala:

OMG!!

Thats hilarious!!! :hail: :rockon:

mtccl

Way to go....now you've upset all the gay guys on the board too. And its ignorant.....not ingnorant

Words can be so cruel.......a picture is worth 1000 words!

Zepher

iTrader: (1)

Well, going to pick up my y-pipe today, should have some vids of the car being drivable really soon.

Iroc n roll

Thanks Guido, I thought it was amusing. I thinks its about time this thread got locked up though. This has nothing to do with TPI. I apologize to Zepher, 88gta305, and the others who actually had useful stuff to say and pics to share. I'll start another thread if you guys have those pics and vids to post.

Zepher

iTrader: (1)

Not a problem, some humor is good every now and then.

Going to slap on the y-pipe and exhaust now, hope it all fits.

lancer5067

Hey everyone, sorry to get back to the topic of CAI but here it goes... I feel 10HP gain is minimum for a better than stock set up. The dyno can only tell you the figures of an engine not certain accessories peroid. The only way to verify performance is to line it up! Unless you have 50mph wind blowing at your CAI your getting the same hot engine air as stock or idle. Would you dyno your car after changing gears or tires?? Common sense is a beautiful thing, BTW that pink 'maro with yellow wheels is some hilarious stuff man, good job.:hail:

Iroc n roll

So an expensive machine like a dyno doesn't say anything....but common sense says 10hp right? Let's see some track numbers. We can all agree on that.

BTW... mtccl....the police are here to see you

Z-Man 85

:hail: Wayyyyyy too funny!!!

91-ZZ4-Z28

I got 2 tenths and 1.5 mph and the 1/8th with a Random Technology ramair

Iroc n roll

That's a ram air.... different effect. A ram air has outside pressure running air into your intake from your forward motion. We're talking about cold air. While a ram air will pick up cold air if positioned low my argument stemmed from the fact that its the ram air that gives improvement and that cold air can only be responsible for no more than 5hp. Opening up a restrictive intake will give you more power...thats not what we're talking about. Raming air into the engine will give you more power.....thats not what we're talking about. Why do you see SD guys running a cone on the end of their TB. Because it sucks in hot air and kills hp? People have seen similar track results with that as 91-ZZ4-Z28 has seen with his setup. There is my point. Your modding should be focused at getting more air to your engine, rather than getting cold air to your engine. Don't get me wrong, I run a ram air that gets cold air from the fog lights. The cold air effect is a real effect and will get you hp, but the track gains that you may be getting from aftermarket intakes come from more air....not cold air.

mtccl

No....colder air is denser and that is where you get the most benefit, although I will admit the moving more air thru the engine is the goal...it is better to move less cold air than more hot air. Hence, you don't want the K&N right on the end of your SD TPI (although it looks really good for show)

IrocNroll....thanks for the pic of you and your buds.

Iroc n roll

From what I've seen the opposite has been true. The more air the better. If cold air was so dense and gave a crap load of hp we would see intakes with peltier elements on them. There's a reason why intakes are geared more towards the ram air effect and getting more air to your engine with cold air being secondary. Cold Air is still important cause it has an effect....but its secondary.


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