kuke

I have a 87 camaro rs with a blown 2.8 V6 and a auto trans. Now I can get a 2.8 motor with a 5 speed manual out of a 93 s10 for cheap. Would this motor fit and I want to swap to manual from auto. Would this trans work?

Maverick H1L

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Now, I could swear that the '93 S10 had a 4.3, but I could be wrong. Either way, the 2.8 is exactly the same, but you WILL want to swap over your top end to the S10 engine, or you'll lose power. The trans will bolt up fine. However, you might want to look into getting the flexplate from a 3.1 due to the fact that the 2.8 from later models was internally balanced, and your existing flexplate probably has a balance weight on it...

Dale

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Depends on which trans you are wanting to use. The s10 5sp will NOT work in your camaro. Now your auto trans will bolt to the s10 motor. But as mentioned, you will want to get an auto flexplate for the s10 motor. Its questionable if yours will work.

Mav, s10's came with:
2.5 iron duke
2.8 carb
2.8 tbi
4.3 carb
4.3 tbi
4.3 cpi
4.3 vortec
4.3 turbo

89305formula

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yea i think the s-10s stopped using the 2.8 in like 88 or 89

Six_Shooter

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Wow, such bad information.

After 1986 all genI 660s used the same heads, so there's no "lose of power" in using the S-series heads. The intake will need to be changed simply because the S-series 2.8L is TBI, and yours should be MPFI.

The internal balance of the 660 was 1987 and later across the GM line. The easy way to know for sure is to look at the flywheel or flex plate it self, if there is an extra piece of metal welded to the flex plate or a "notch" or "void" cast into the flywheel at small area.

The 5-speed tranny would work, if if the shifter position was correct, which it's not. The S-series has the shifter more forward on the trans case, where the F-body needs it at the end of the tail shaft. You will alos likely need an F-body bellhousing. I know the V8 cars had the trans tilted a few degrees towards the driver, I'm not entirely sure if the V6s were the same, but confidant they were. S-series trannies are installed straight up.
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Uhhh, NO.

The 4.3 was introduced in '88 IIRC, but the 2.8 was used for a number of years after that in the S-series.

Dale

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2.8 was stop used in s10's in 93. I have had 3 93 s10's with 2.8's.

In 94 they switched to the 2.2?? and 4.3's


sixshooter. Yes, the v6 bellhousing was tilted as well. I put a full camaro setup in my s10 and that was one of the problems I ran across.

Maverick H1L

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I thought the problem for those early engines was the intake? Somehow, I doubt that the engine gained 28 HP between 84 and 85 just by a simple resize of the valves... Heck, even between the 3.1 and 3100 you only got 20 HP, 140 to 160...

Either way, with the trans, he could use the trans if 2 things are met. 1. He swaps in an F-body tail housing and shifting assembly (including the top cover), and 2, he has the proper length driveshaft and tailshaft to mate up with the T5.

BTW, the V6 bellhousing has bolt hole mountings for both straight and tilted positions of the T5, except 2 of the holes for straight mount aren't fully drilled in some cases... I almost tried to put mine in the wrong way when I installed it for the first time... Maybe the S10 bellhousing has the reverse, being fully drilled for straight mount but not for our tilt (which doesn't make sense anyways because the trans still sits so high under there...).

kuke

How hard would it be to change to the f body tail housing and shifting assembly? And what would it cost?

Melosh

actually if i remember right combining the two transmissions results in a hybrid trans that is rather short with a far forward shifter. However i think that is with the fbody case and the s-10 tailshaft. Friend of mine used the setup for a 383 5-speed setup in a crosley.

Maverick H1L

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It's not that hard, you would just have to pop off the tail housing and the top cover off of the T5 and swap in the top cover and tail housing from an F-body T5, but, for the price, it would be easier to sell the S10 trans and just get one from an F-body in the first place. Especially since you will probably need an entire donor trans just for the parts (unless you get a GREAT deal on one that is frozen or something and is JUNK anyways). It's too bad mine disappeared a week after I swapped my 84 trans for the 85 trans... I would've gladly just about given you the case after I took the rebuild parts out of it.

Oh, and to correct what I said before: he is still better off swapping the intakes... 93 S10 with the 2.8 had 125/150... He gets 10HP and 10Tq just in the intake... And by top end, I was referring to the induction system.

Dale

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The two transmissions are the same length. But the bellhousing is made differently. The main part of the case is the same.

I installed a 3.4 SFI camaro motor, with a s10 bellhousing, and 90-92 camaro trans. I had to use the s10 bellhousing because how the slave cylinder mounts up and how the truck layed frame. I then had to modify my cross member for the tilt of the rear mount. Then install bucket seats and cut a hole for the shifter. Then make a custom shifter(modified the s10).

Now as for doing what I did backwards. 1. The s10 bellhousing will likely not physically fit in a camaro. Where the slave cyl goes will hit the underpan of the car. 2. W/o changing the rear half of the trans, the shifter hole will be where the radio is, and the shifter will be tilted..... iirc to far to the right. 3. You will have to redo your cross member mount.

As for HP ratings. Your fogetting the cam is ground differently. I doubt he will gain power with just an intake swap. But I will say, with a truck cam, and long runners, hes gonna have a GREAT intown car. May not be all that on the highway/topend.

The motor will fit fine and replace your existing motor. Your best solution is to keep your current trans.

kuke

Ok thanks for the help. Ill probally get the motor and either keep my trans or get a 5 speed out of a camaro.

dwillis

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Sent you a pm bout a transmission

Toyota h8r

WRONG! i am a proud owner of a 1993 s10 powered by a anemic 2.8L/t5 combo

they used them up to 1993 when the released the "2nd gen s10" 1994 got a weak 2.2L I4 or sad 4.3L

the 4.3L became somewhat powerful in later years

923.4v6

The 94 s10 cpi 4.3 run good. A friend of mine has a bone stock 94 4x4 s10 4.3 cpi 5-speed that runs 15.8-15.9 with 31-10.50 tires. I think thats pretty good for a stock 4x4.

Toyota h8r

i grew up with s10's and have 4 right now

4.3's are dogs until 98+

only 4.3L that moved out is my old man's 01 xtreme that is a 4.3/5spd with 3.42 gears from factory. its quick but no race truck. The cpi trucks are known for bad fuel injection "spiders"

only way to build a 4.3L is boosted with megasquirt computer

923.4v6

I agree with the injectors won't last but about 4 years but what i've seen the 94-95 cpi trucks were faster than the 96 up trucks.

Smokeyb215

hello, i have a 92 s10 with a blown iron duke and my buddy has a 2.8l v6 out of his 91 s10. Im wondering if his engine will work in my truck with my 5 spd trans and everything.

Six_Shooter

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That question is best answered on an S10 forum.