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Old 08-22-2001, 12:40 AM
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hey V6 owner whats you opinion

I sick and tired of people out there just because they give us crap cause they thing our car sux or the motor sux or some other reason like that
I am sure you guys all know one of the people I am talking about you know the one that drive and IROC with a 5.7TPI but I'm not going to say any names here
it seems like a lot of you guys are fed up with it to. I men saying there car is better and stuff is not a problem with me a little friendly comp is cool but when you go around and try to rub it in others faces and keep going about saying other ppl suck well that is getting out of hand.
check out how many threads are closed just cause one person starts shieet
I like you V6 owners. same boat as I am in. the underdog but still have a sweet a$$ car
you know what I mean. sure some of you V6 owners have put the hurt on 8cyl out there. know a friend friends out there that have done so.

so come on guys lets here your stories of V6 kicking some A$$

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or if that does not work it is under the racing forum under norock and my 5.7

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lol well i would much rather have my v6 than a 4 banger

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hey if you are trying to make fun of my car just to let you know dont have a 4 banger. heck dont have pistons for that matter. but as for 4 bangers I would agree. only ones I car for are the s2000 and my damn 78 celica 240k no rebuild still tickin and has seen hell a few times over again. other then that they make good family cars and thats it

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hey hey i didnt mean it that way...
i did not see your name... and i too love rx7's ... i assumed u also had a v6 camaro
and dont get me wrong i like imports also

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nah
would not mind having one but after seeing iroc 5.7 and how he is makes me want to stay away from the V8's think the 2 extra cyl goes straight to his head.
but one of my best friends has a v6. I always liked the camaro and owned a 71 camaro myself at one time ( wish I still had that thing )

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as for 4cylinders, just remember ( and this has no bearing on any topic), the old lotus turbo esprit was a 4 banger
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I have a road and track (may 2001 issue) .They have a subaru Imprezza WRX it has a flat 4 227 hp turbo engine that runs 14.4 . It's a sleeper ....Make some headers for it , spray some NOS ,it could walk all over certain cars . hehehe
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I saw that and just had to mention it , a dam* subaru running 14s ..hehe
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Well, I don't street race anymore, but I had tons of fun. I could beat the V8's on the open road- but rarely from a stop. The V8's I could beat from a stop were the beaters with tint, a booming stereo, an exhaust, shiny wheels- and nothing else. Those were the guys that couldn't tell a pushrod from a connecting rod!

Like I always said; A v8-owning gearhead will appreciate our cars, and the work we've done. A v8-owning poser won't; he's the one to make fun of it all. I think we've come up with some ingenious stuff around here (Red91's 2.8 and Karl's 3.4 swap and 3.1Firebird's 3.4 headers, etc), and we've done stuff that most v8 guys haven't done (Graeme's auto-to-5spd swap, my 3.73/posi/disc swap, etc). When you think of it, there's really nothing advertised for our f-body engines. We've had to dig it all up, and if it's not out there, make it, mod it, or swap it- and I'm proud of that (as you guys are, too)! It ain't easy to do.

And that's probably why the gearheads show us some respect (if not at least "humoring us"), because they know what it's like to do hard work on an engine. However, for someone that has no clue, they'll start the little "my engine's bigger than yours" fights, and ask us the famous question- you know the one- lets all say it together- "why don't you just put a v8 in"?


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WaynesRS:
I have a road and track (may 2001 issue) .They have a subaru Imprezza WRX it has a flat 4 227 hp turbo engine that runs 14.4 . It's a sleeper ....Make some headers for it , spray some NOS ,it could walk all over certain cars . hehehe </font>

Now I have to agree, thats a bad ****.

TomP....

Don't judge me as a non-gearhead just because I disagree with people utilizing a V6 FBody for anything other than transportation. Its my honest opinion.

Would you rather I come in here and kiss all of your behinds and put on an act like I like the cars? Sure they are nice cars, and excellent daily drivers with lots of "pep". But they were never meant to be modified. Why do you think 90% of them came with open differentials? Not for performance. And you 89TTA guys. I love those cars too. They were built to go fast. They weren't built as daily commuters, they were built to pace a race.

You guys start juding people without even know me. You jump to conclusions.

You also post things flaming me when I try to let things rest. You don't know when to stop. And you say I act immature?

I am just trying to get a few of you guys to take your head out of the clouds and realize that your cars were never intended to be modified. With all of the $$ you put into them , you could have a car that was built for performance, put in the same amount of money, and go much faster doing so.

Have a nice day. And quit flaming beofre we all get kicked off the site.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:
your cars were never intended to be modified. </font>
No flames intended...
That is very true. But it applies to your type of car as well. Many of the modificatons that we 3rd gen owners do were never supposed to be done and are actually illegal. Doing things like switching PROMS, gutting cats and the like alter the emmisions equipment on our cars and the EPA doesn't like it (ie. illegal).

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:
With all of the $$ you put into them , you could have a car that was built for performance, put in the same amount of money, and go much faster doing so
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No flames intended...
That is also correct. But it makes no difference. Working on my car (no matter what engine it has) and learning is the real reward.

I am proud of what I have done with my V6 even though it is not the fastest car out there.

Great cars are not bought, they are built.

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and v8s aren't suposed to be modded either, that why they left the factory 8 cylinders, not 6. so then, what was GM even thinking when they gave the sunbird/cavalier a turbo 4? What's the point?
why mod an 8? to go faster, quicker, handle better.

why mod a 6? see above

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Nice return Volley IROC.
Keep it up.
BUT, you can play with the v-6 and get some good results from them.
AND alot of overhead costs can be contained by using the V-6 foundation.
I used my V-6 foundation as away to get past smog police. In CA, that's mandatory thinking, step number one. Anything else leads ya to look for a way to buy the result of the smog test. And for me, it wasn't even an option.
I got more power, a cheap engine swap and a easy smog test. AND no machinist costs or PARTS involved in my swap/build up. Finally a win-win situation.
IF I expected my V-6 to beat every car, I'd have lost my life or license by now or killed innoncent people.
Incidentially I have other weapons for other purposes, if I so need to utilize them for that purpose. Yes, some do involve V-8 power.

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I'm going to borrow one from the Rice burners on this one, you may have your big bad a** v8 but every mile you drive or every minute you stand still at a stop light you are paying BIG TIME in gas millage, and the way gasoline is these days that is $$$$$.

Part of the appeal of a V6 is if you can do the 3.4L swap with a stroker kit and have 200 HP at the wheels, and still have NICE PRICES at the pump.

During the 3rd Gen. F-body years over 63% of the cars made came with a V6, gee I guess we all are looking for a GOOD LOOKING bargin.

H*LL I can beat a rice burner, look good, get great gas mileage, have lots of fun MAKING MY OWN bolt ons where a V8 guy has to buy everything, man o man V6 is looking better each minute.

HMMMM I guess I get the BEST of all worlds.

V8 guys eat your hearts out!!!!!
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OK. Hear me out for a minute Iroc.

Many of us here are college students, have faster other vehicles, or just really don't care that much about power.

Personally, I plan on getting a 9 second bike. Plus, I'm a college student. And YES, I make enough money to afford insurance on an Iroc. Personally however, I hate Iroc's. I really do. Especially when owners like you feel above everyone else. Iroc, here's a news flash::: YOUR CAR IS SLOW BY TODAYS STANDARDS. As is our cars. Back in the day, our V6's could stand with any NA V6 on the road. Now, of course, that's difficult, but why do we modify them? Because some of us like to be different (ME), some of us can't afford it, and some of us really don't care. I like to be different so much, if I was going to drop just a lil cash on a new car, I'd grab my friend's 98 Camaro. 15.2 bone stock, and they're coming out with a Cam/Head package for it within the next 3 months. You know....that's one NA 6 that I'd almost bet money would take your L98.

People on this board are trying to fix their cars, modify them for more speed, or just trying to have fun, yet you come in here and slam on them for owning a V6 car. Why? Because we DECIDED to own a V6 instead of a V8. Tell me why I even need a V8 and I'll consider it. Does speed make me any better of a person? If I go 70 down the freeway and your V8 goes 70, are you going to get there faster because you have 2 more cylinders? Nah, I highly doubt it, but I'll bet you one thing. When you're out of gas on the side of the road, I'll keep on rolling. And I'm sorry my friend, but at this point of my little interaction with you, I'd just look and laugh instead of gladly offering a ride or use of my cell phone.

Just to let you know Iroc, from this point on EVERYTHING you say I will look at. My first step when I get on my computer is to look at this board and search for your name. Anything that is non-helpful or derrogatory will be edited (if there IS some helpful or nice information in it) or deleted. You rant about free speech, but yet you don't realize that this is a privately owned board. You are lucky that you haven't been kicked off as of yet. So feel free to keep coming in and posting. I don't really care. I have a T1 line, I'm always on the computer, and I have PLENTY of time to watch this board.
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thats one of the reasons i'm sticking with my 6, because people like him make me want to so i can build my 6 to beat an 8, and ya they are kinda slow by today's standards, what do you expect on a car that has 10+ year old technology in it. And I can attest to how fast the WRX's run, i ran against one at the strip last thursday, pulled up to him and thought it would be a cake walk, once that tree turned green all i could see was his tail lights getting smaller and smaller in the distance, maybe i'm exagerating a wee bit but its mainly true he beat me by i good whole second or two

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Well for starters , you came in here the wrong way "trying to get our heads out of the clouds " You get much futher with people with being nice , not being rude .Second ,There is no laws or rules saying that any car can't be modded b/c of its engine . If V6 cars weren't meant to be modded , they why do they make performance parts for them ? 3rd , Im happy with my V6 , I love it , yes I do want an 8 , but Im never getting rid of my 2.8 .Plus I can modd it to run high 14s , low 15s .I could sell my car right now and get a IROC if I wanted to but Im very content with my car , its a nice car , good paint , The 2.8 is not a rocket , but its fast for a 2.8 cus i have it mildly modded , plus it s a new engine .i was thinking of getting an IROC for my next car to modd and make some runs at the track .But instead I might get a used dodge viper ,you can find 92-93s right now for 40 grand.Does this make me better than you ? No How about V6 guys no !A nice car is a nice car regardless of engine .Im a bigger fan of the viper's style than engine , Id prabably drive one with a V6 in it .....Wayne
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TomP....

Don't judge me as a non-gearhead just because I disagree with people utilizing a V6 FBody for anything other than transportation. Its my honest opinion.

Would you rather I come in here and kiss all of your behinds and put on an act like I like the cars?
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Face the facts: you've been judged for what you are- a wanna-be hotshot, bench-racing, v8-owning POSER. You are far from the gearheads I've known.

And actually, I'd rather you didn't come in here at all. You came in out of nowhere, and asked who was the "fastest of the slow"! What the f-ck is that? You're not a gearhead, you're a complete a$$hole! If you don't want to see us mod our cars, then fine- but get the hell out of here, ****!

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Why do you think 90% of them came with open differentials? Not for performance.</font>
(laughs) That makes no sense! You think every V8 f-body car came with a posi? The posi axles aren't a popular item behind v8's, dummy.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">You also post things flaming me when I try to let things rest. You don't know when to stop. And you say I act immature?</font>
FIRST OF ALL: I wasn't flaming you. I didn't mention your damn name! I didn't make ANY reference to you at ALL. To think that I was flaming you proves that you're pretty full of yourself.

SECOND OF ALL: Remember your little "comment" on the "Major Power First thing in the morning?" message? (That's message link https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/002425.html ) Bri3212 asked a simple question- one I've heard v8 owners ask MANY times- and you came out with both barrels firing! You weren't helpful or polite at all. Bri3212 is a new member to thirdgen.org, and you insulted him! What the hell was that about?? I hope you didn't chase him away. We're a THIRD-GEN F-BODY CLUB, Mike, we're all supposed to HELP one another, AND make new members feel welcome.

THIRD OF ALL: We tell you to go away. You don't. You keep coming back. Like I said, you're like the little pain-in-the-butt whiny crying kid that keeps trying to hang out with older kids, but the older kids don't want him around. The little whiner keeps coming back, and back, and back- and annoys the hell out of the others, until it comes to a point where they don't think twice about bashing him. You've annoyed us- now, go away!

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I am just trying to get a few of you guys to take your head out of the clouds and realize that your cars were never intended to be modified. With all of the $$ you put into them , you could have a car that was built for performance, put in the same amount of money, and go much faster doing so.</font>
Our heads aren't in the clouds! Hah! You self-righteous sonofabtch! You really think you're our savior, don'tchya! Do you dream of us on our knees, crying out "All bow to IROC57TPI, he's made us see the light!" Well who the hell asked You? Can'tchya figure it out, boy? WE KNOW A V8 IS MORE POWERFUL. It's basic engine design! Like I said before, a V8 has two extra power strokes. (That was probably news to you, eh?) If there was a V6 and V8, both inducted and exhaust and sized the same exact ways, the V8 would have more power. Just because we have V6's does NOT mean we have no clue of what's going on.

Yes, I choose to work on and improve my v6 f-body. It's my money, my work, and my time; it's not your "destiny" to interfere with.

Do you pull the same crap with TBI and LG4 f-body owners? Do you rag on them? I've seen a few of you TPI guys do it, so I'm sure you have. "Ditch that LG4, it wasn't made for performance." "TBI? That's just made for gas mileage. Swap to TPI. Don't bother modding it." I bet you do.

We want to work on our V6's. We all have our reasons. Leave it at that, and get the hell out of our message board, ya damned poser! From now on, your btchy little self doesn't exist to me. I'm ignoring you from now on- your intelligence (and undoubtedly, skill & experience) level is far below ours, your attitude completely sucks, and I'm not about to let one little whiney v8 poser cause us to lose OUR V6 message board!


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well tomp long and lengthy but a good point.

And who says our cars do not BEAT V8's??? Mine does. Even though they are the LG4 varity, they are still 8's and I still beat them pretty bad if they got nothing to go with. if they are stock I WALK ALL OVER THEM PERIOD. And get the afore mentiopned great gas milage!. Whats the best milage you've gotten 5.7??? the last time I filled up I went 353.8 miles. I filled up with 12.326 gallons. You do the math I know I got close to or over 30 MPG'S! IN THE CITY WITH A/C. Granted I had just done a complete tune up and reset everything, but that does not matter I still got that MPG BABY! AND with gas at 1.50ish for the low grade and 1.76 for gold THAT MPG IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

I have said many a time now V8's are no longer gods. Period. They are in the down grading, phase out situation. It's about to the point if you want an 8 you have to buy a truck. You wonder why??? its because there are noe 4 bangers that can way out perform your precious L98 motor, hell even the infamous LS1, LT1, LT4 and many many others. If you can have an engine(looking at the latest issuse of Street Performer) a '99 Mistu eclipse with 491HP and 38-390 Ft Lbs outta a factory bottom end turboed motor and be reliable(the most reliable one they tested that month as per quote) then why is you big bad V8 any better?. yes he needs to stage at your red line(5-6K) but he'll blow your doors off. And blow past you at the pumps as well. In todays economy its no longer bigger is better. It's what performs best. And yes that 'vette LS1 has 405 ponies but its alot lighter then our cars is in a platform more aerodynamic and frankly alot more engineered. And even that 'vette would not stand a chance against that Eclipse. Though they may actually get around the same MPG... I think the Eclipse would get better personally (especially if he turns down the boost when not racing).

Anyway theres my .02. Hell guys like this 5.7 A$$ is the reason I am going to buy a little honda CRX or CIVIC and build it up to whip there a$$es...
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TomP, and Ovrclock350

I hear you two, Tom I aggree with everything you say.

Overclock, I hear you,(I am off to university, so that is why I have a V-6, and I have to sell it in the fall to get thru my first year, but I plan on buying a cheap V-6 Camaro. Even if I had the money I wouldn't buy an IROC.

I have a whole bunch of friends who laugh at my ideas of beating a V-8 with a V-6, so I want a cheap Camaro 2.8, then modd it (Turbo) and take a few V-8 cars down, then laugh at my friends.

I've learned from having a V-6, and this message board anything is possible, and it even without an 8.
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Iroc, i can actually say i agree with you, but why sit there and flame someone for wanting to be different? Someone whom modifies a V6 is the same as the engine builders across the country - see what it can do, develope parts and new ways to make power. Even the mighty V8 that we BOTH drive had to go thru the same thing at one time. You say you want to post your ideas or YOUR opinons - thats great we welcome that... But go back and view your first post... it was rude with NO explination of why - rather it was very "trollish" then to top it off you want to let it lay - but ya send me a personal email when i called ya on it that was less then friendly. Between what ya sent me and what you have posted you have changed the stories to suit you and your "cause". No one said you are the fastest, no one said you were anything until in atleast 3 posts i saw - you yourself became insultive. Its a V6 board here - that means V8 ideas stay the heck out as we talk V6 here. Not that everyone needs a V8 cuz for the 4K i spent to make my 3.1L firbird go 13.98 i could get a V8 to go 11's... who cares, its a V6 board... Now, if ya wanna talk shop, if ya wanna ask questions without the insultive tone or writing - then go for it. But if ya wanna preach your V8 ways on a V6 board - then get the hell out - we are not interested....


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:

Now I have to agree, thats a bad ****.

TomP....

Don't judge me as a non-gearhead just because I disagree with people utilizing a V6 FBody for anything other than transportation. Its my honest opinion.

Would you rather I come in here and kiss all of your behinds and put on an act like I like the cars? Sure they are nice cars, and excellent daily drivers with lots of "pep". But they were never meant to be modified. Why do you think 90% of them came with open differentials? Not for performance. And you 89TTA guys. I love those cars too. They were built to go fast. They weren't built as daily commuters, they were built to pace a race.

You guys start juding people without even know me. You jump to conclusions.

You also post things flaming me when I try to let things rest. You don't know when to stop. And you say I act immature?

I am just trying to get a few of you guys to take your head out of the clouds and realize that your cars were never intended to be modified. With all of the $$ you put into them , you could have a car that was built for performance, put in the same amount of money, and go much faster doing so.

Have a nice day. And quit flaming beofre we all get kicked off the site.


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Personally , I dont even think we need him to help us with our V6's. I read a post , I can't recall which one now , but he helped the guy , but at the end of the reply he had to add one more sentence to insult ,and Iroc you can say all you want it wasn't an insult , but it was .I dont remember what the topic was but I remember the insult was " you can put a V8 in it " ....I think we have enough V6 members here to help each other ,We dont need your help with an insult at the end .We have enough V6 members who don't insult . ....Wayne
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rx7speed:
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I raced a Porsche yesterday... Yes a PORSCHE. I don't know what model it was, but it was on the older side.

I had him beat until about 60 MPH, when it became apparent that he had a turbo and I didn't. Once he started pulling away I shut it down and cruised to the next light where it was red. I could have pulled up next to him and not admit defeat, but rather I switched lanes and pulled up behind him. I gave him a smile and thumbs up. I didn't kick *** , but h*ll, I raced a Porsche with a broken Camaro.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Xenodrgn:
I raced a Porsche yesterday... Yes a PORSCHE. I don't know what model it was, but it was on the older side.

I had him beat until about 60 MPH, when it became apparent that he had a turbo and I didn't. Once he started pulling away I shut it down and cruised to the next light where it was red. I could have pulled up next to him and not admit defeat, but rather I switched lanes and pulled up behind him. I gave him a smile and thumbs up. I didn't kick *** , but h*ll, I raced a Porsche with a broken Camaro.

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The attitude and opinion, really make a BIG difference.
We have so many pleasant times here.
I used to hang on Corvette Forum, but that got boring.
Here we're reaching to areas no one else really cares about, but US.
Yea, we do a lot of illegal things (gut cats, try to make headers, etc.) but, it's all FUN.
THE MAJORITY of your response have not been pleasant reading material, at all.
NOR THE ATTITUDE and the OPINION.
Wanna join us? Hang?
Drop the attitude.
I DO KNOW FOR BIG FACT the Detroit street scene is real strong into faster cars then should be on the streets. I've read about it since the early 70's.
I know that brings attitude, also.
Ever raced in Brooklyn?
Or Philly?
Or Van Nuys?
BUT READING YOUR ATTITUDE here, is not pleasant reading at all.
I keep tossing out an olive branch, MANY OTHERS HERE WON'T, ANYMORE/AT ALL, BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS BURN THEM.

Figure it out.

Real quick. I don't want this site to go where your attitude is/has gone.

Down the toilet.

I've seen a few other good sites go away because of people like yourself. THAT SUCKS IF YOU, MR IROC, KILL THIS FUN FOR US.
Why am I personal saying "you?"
Think about what you say to US.
AND HOW YOU SAY YOU RESPONSE TO US.
I kinda wish Billy COULD/WOULD HAVE YA KICKED OFF THIS PRIVATE BOARD.
BUT, I kinda recall someone else having to much power in his life time.

Hitler.

Yes, I AM STILL MIFFED AT YA FOR ALSO PULLING MY QUOTE OUTTA CONTEXT, too.
IF I knew how to waste time and search for past statements from yourself to pull outta context, I may do so.
For now...
Just stop your childness immature attitude against US.
Remember, we're asking you to stop your attitude. That's all.
But MANY ARE ASKING YOU TO BE BANNED.

I kinda can't blame them.
IF EVERYONE OF US CAME ONTO YOUR SITE THAT YA HANG AT (whatever that site that may be, I don't care to find out where it is) AND CONTINUED TO BASH YA, OR SEND HARRASHING HATE MAIL TO PEOPLES PERSONAL EMAILS....

Man, that's wrong.

I'll say this again.
Just stop.

There is TO MUCH HATRED OUT IN THIS WORLD.

Look at stupid countries fighting over "DOG" (their own personal versions of "DOG", no less). Like "DOG" thinks that's a right way to make friends.

Stupid people, mean people, thoughtless people really are worthless elements in society.

Just stop.

Just for fun, I will throw this out.
If YOU BROUGHT THAT ATTITUDE TO LA, you'd be dead.
You'd be killed in a heartbeat, by someone you pissed off. Real quick.
No not by me, so DON'T try to take that line otta context.
Just what I've observed in this city since the LA riots in 1992.
And I live by the beach to keep away from them, as much as I can. NOT BECAUSE OF MY ATTITUDE, I don't want to be caught in the cross fire. That happened once (Korea Town, on 8th St, evening time. My Girlfriend and I ducked behind cinderblocks. Next day saw the bullet holes, close). I pray never again.
I have a Wife and an 11 month old now.

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That was AWESOME Karl , Thankyou Karl .Thanx Wayne
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Drag part is...
I wish I NEED NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE WRITTEN THAT.
But, every once in a while of your life, someone comes along, you just wish they would just get a clue how they make other people feel.
And that's wrong.
But, it's a big world and there may be a proper place for that person. Just not by me or hangin with us.
Really kinda hoping this V-6 site doesn't go away.
It's to much fun.
I'm now afraid this V-6 site may be dead, because of this wasted anger.

AND THAT SUCKS BIG TIME
This is a rare spot.
CamaroZ-28 has a V-6 section.
It's NO WHERE AS FUN AS HERE!!!


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It wont close Karl , We all have to come together to keep it open Wayne
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by breathment:
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how many times do i have to tell you all that i have no power to ban anyone... thanks..
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:


But they were never meant to be modified.


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HAH! Would you say a '97 Civic Hatchback was "Meant to be modified"? I didn't think so either. Until a good friend of mine showed me his.... I looked at the dyno sheet for this thing. 297hp w/o NOS... 415 with NOS. That's one bad *** ****...

I watched it walk away from a '99 Vette not once, but twice... the guy was a hella sore loser too... he came over to our spot all talking trash and stuff, and I had to step up. So they all got me a t-shirt that says, "Big Steve" and a big *** sticker for the car saying, "This car protected by Big Steve".
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damn I started a riot :-D
now you fu.cking V8 boys dont pick on me nor my V6 people here.
if you want to help out that cool give us a hand give us some respect but sheeit dont come over here just to harrass us.

now guys I want to hear some stories about V6 kicking some V8 ***

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rx7speed:

now guys I want to hear some stories about V6 kicking some V8 ***

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I think it'll be a long time before someone posts an honest V8 kill. It just doesn't happen every day.

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noroc is correct, lets get some stories on 4banger rice killing v8.

v8, isn't that a friut drink?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:

I think it'll be a long time before someone posts an honest V8 kill. It just doesn't happen every day.

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How about this? It wasn't in my Camaro, but my 3.8L Cougar. I pulled up on a black guy in a early 90's model Chevy Silverado... we both took off from the light normally, then he took off... so I was like, "Hell no..." and stomped the gas. We got to the next light, and he looked over and smiled. He proceeds to powerbrake and smoke his tires. So, I return fire. Smoked my tires off (and I wonder why my tranny's screwed up? ).

So, I saw the other light changing to yellow, and I wound the Cougar up to 2500rpms, caught the perfect light and pulled a holeshot on this truck. I heard his tires chirp just a little when he left the line, he caught up to my tailights, then my car hit 2nd gear, and took off again.

Well, we get up to the next light and I looked over and wave, say, "Good run..." to each other, and I looked down and noticed something. It was a 2500 series truck. So I'm thinking, "No way I beat that truck... it's probably got a 454 in it." Well, he took off when the light turned green, and sure enough, he had the stock two pipes coming out behind the rear wheel... The rest of the night I was just like, "Holy sh*t... I just beat a truck with a 454 in it... no way..." So, obviously it was a tired motor... but still, he wanted to run.

Of course, there's still the matter of the HOTT blonde girl in the 6spd. WS6 T/A I lost to the other night...

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I got one for ya
a friend of mine I know who is running the same 1.3L I am was raced by a C5 the other day..... well the C5 got his assed whooped on hard. the guy in his rx7 is running 9.5 in the quarter and he is a daily driver all he has to do is turn the boost down. so for you guys out there saying imports suck and are unreliable how does 27 PSI of boost sound on a car pulling 9.5?
as for you norock I am sure he would not mind taking on you and your manly V8 and who you that bigger is not always better.
hey that would kinda funny to watch. your always raggin on our motors cause they are smaller and always picking on the import and yet you can be beat by both in one night

your running what 14 in the 1/4? not bad my rx7 is comming right up on ya high 14 myself. and I am all motor right now without even porting the block.

now IROC you can do one of two things give us a hand or leave our forum what would you rather do?

oh and yeah as for running bigger TB you can do it. just might need to upgrade the fuel system a little more depending on what the other mods are from what I understand. and worse case is getting a haltech or something

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How about this for a short sweet storie guys ? I've seen a hon** civic blow the doors off a 96 corvette at the track ,and I mean blew the doors off , beat him by 4 car lenghts .I wish I get my scanner working cus Id scan it . Wayne
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It's not how many cylinders you have .Its how your motor is built , and if you have a supercharger , or turbo , or twin turbo .
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Would you rather I come in here and kiss all of your behinds and put on an act like I like the cars?
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NO, WHY DONT YOU KISSMYASS IROC ?

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I got quite afew kill stories in my old 13.8 sec in the 1/4 mile 3.1L 1991 firebird... but again whats the use? he don't get it, he won't get it and its (trolling) is enjoyable) for him. I am off to find another board - i won't stand by a board that puts up with this type of stuff. Overclock - we love ya man, its not your fault - unfortunately its the higher up's not doing a thing. Hell personal emails, racial slurs and a continuance to troll.... what more do they need? for it to get personal? oh well... i am not interested any longer...


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