crazy3rdgen

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I've searched for awhile now and have seen tall fatties that arent wide, Wide tires that stick out, or simply a nice tire with fender gap. I'm not diggin the 18's anymore, time to get serious and do it right.

I'm liking the weld pro stars, their pretty cool looking. Which ever is the lightest and best looking will do. Not sure what i want, 15 or 16. I have a picture of exactly what I want the tire to look like in the rear. Yes I know this is mini-tubed but thats how the tire looks best imo, so slightly tucked perfect no gap. I would lower the car a bit to give the right effect and then go as wide as i can without cutting/hacking or banging in the well.

So here's that picture. I'm sure some of you guys have seen it on here.

Shagwell

I don't think you're ever gonna sit that low on that wide of a tire w/o some inner fender " messaging..."

crazy3rdgen

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never said with that wide of a tire. I said the tire in relation to the lip exactly like that , then as far over in width as i can go. No kidding i can't go that low with that wide of a tire, the guy has a mini-tubed rear section read.

CrazyHawaiian

What was it about your current setup that you dont like anymore? If its simply because of fendergap (which is pronounced when running low profile tires) then look into adjustable ride height w/ weight jacks. That way you would be able to set the ride height at what you determine to be perfect and eliminate gap.

xpndbl3

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i don't think my setup looks too bad. look at my sig pic

crazy3rdgen

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It's the fact that I have to run spacers crazyh, I'm wanting more of an aggressive look.

xpndbl3-Do you have any close ups of your set up? Like right at the fender. If you wanted to lower the car would you be able to have 0 gap if you wanted to like the "pro roc" up top? I went on your car domain and checked out the black camaro you have, and it looks like if you really wanted to you could cancel fender to wheel gap?

mw66nova

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15x10 weld prostars or draglites with a 5.5" backspacing with a 275/60/15 tire will give you the look your wanting....and to get it to sit that low onto the tire, you'll HAVE to do at least a little inner fender well massaging.

and for the record, here is what a 295/50/16 looks like on a set of irocs.

xpndbl3

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yes if i wanted to lower the car more there would be no gap and the wheelwell would be filled in. I'm running true dual exhaust so i'm not willing to lower the car much more than it already is presently thoug. The camaro is put away for the winter until spring and I can't get any shots of it until then. Since it has new paint I'm letting it sit untouched in the garage until then. Plus we're getting 6-8 inches of snow today so i don't think i could pull it out if i wanted.

crazy3rdgen

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no massaging is going to happen my friend.

" and for the record, here is what a 295/50/16 looks like on a set of irocs. "

Do you have any close-ups of that rear fender lip and tire? That looks mighty nice...Was any massaging done there?

mw66nova

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i rolled the fender lip and beat the hell out of the inner fender...why are you opposed to doing this? the car is also lowered by 1 coils worth with v6 springs...however the car had an iron headed 305 in those pictures...

here's the only other that i got with

crazy3rdgen

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i'm opposed to doing this because the next car i get it will go on and the car will be extremely mint factory rare car. And I will never beat a well or roll the lip. I rolled the lip on the rs and when things arent factory/perfect from my doing it bothers me.

Hmm what about a 285? I know i can get a 275 tucked in there

Night rider327

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Here's mine. You can see the tire cleance in the pics I posted in these 2 threads.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=341740

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=341498

In the 1st link which is cowl car is now. I have 235/60-15 tires up front and 275/60-15 Nitto Drag Radials on the rear.

In the second link I have the tires bagged up cause I was primering the car but still you can see the diff in the clearance. In that pic I have the same front tires, but 255/60-15 rear reg. street tires.

My car has new V-8 rear springs, worn v-6 front springs.

You can't always go by the 235, 255, etc size. The Drag Radials I have is alittle shorter but wider than a reg 275/60 street tire would be.

The 255/60-15 = 27.05" tall x 10.04" wide sidewall to sidewall
275/60-15 Nitto = 27.76" tall x 11.10" wide
reg. 275/60-15 would be 27.99" tall x 10.83" wide

crazy3rdgen

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would you mind please taking pictures close-up on the fender lip and underneath to get a picture of how wide she looks.

Night rider327

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crazy3rdgen... I can't really take any new pictures for you. The 255/60's I sent up in smoke a few mo. ago, and the car is sitting on jackstands right now, but I can show you some of the pics you want/need from what I already have took.

Look at the bottom 6 pictures on this page. http://community.webshots.com/album/128760525EctcPW/1 Picture 289 is a good low rear shot to show how wide they are

Those are the 255/60's

Here's more of those tires on this page. http://community.webshots.com/album/292239995aZYSVX/1

Look on this page.. http://community.webshots.com/album/477667330dZybfn
I have a pic of one of the 255/60's standing next to the new 275/60's, also there's 5 pics of the car from diff angles that you can see the 275/60

I don't have a low rear shot of the 275/60's on my webshot pages, but I do have one on my computer. It's not the best pic though. I shot toward the sun and got alot of glare, but you might be able to tell how wide they are from it though.

I also have one where I was putting on the panhard rod, the rear of car is sitting on ramps, but it shows the driver's side 275/60 tire real good. You can see how wide it is good on this one.

I'll put both of those pics in this thread

Night rider327

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Here's the one with rear of car on ramps

crazy3rdgen

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night rider them nitto's look pretty good, I just went and measured my 275/35 pirelli and got 10-7/8 close to 11. Do you think you could tuck in a 285? And with that 275 nitto tire set up in the rear, say you were to lower the rear end, Would the tire be out passed the lip or inside so if you hit a nice bump it wont mess anything up? Very nice pictures thanks for them btw.

Night rider327

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Wheel back spacing has alot to do with that. On the 1978 trans am WS6 wheels I have, the tires are alittle past the outside of the lip. If I lowered the car the lip would rub the tire no question about it. It's not sticking out enough to look bad or anything but yeah if lowered it would rub.

But I think my wheels has alittle less back spacing than stock third gen wheels has.

Your welcome for the pics, glad they could help you some

flrtin1

It all depends on how low you go!!!!!!
This is with no fender/well mods and is a snug fit for my index finger knuckle and the back fender wall

crazy3rdgen

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omg flirt1 fill me in on the tire info please that is such a beautiful machine!!!! Rims and tire info , could you please hook me up ? gosh she looks goood

flrtin1

Thanks crazy.....
The tires are BFG 275/50R15 rims are centerline 15x7 (not by choice long story) if I remember right it is 3 1/2 bs
Just remember my car is fairly low which helps with the look

crazy3rdgen

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they look wider then a 275?

flrtin1

Nope 275's....like I said the stance of the car has a lot to do with how they look also I am pretty sure with the car this low any wider and you would have to get the BFH out

crazy3rdgen

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hmm any shots from the rear?

flrtin1

lol just checked the pics I have loaded an none from the rear with this tire combo.....but if you go HERE and try the 85z3 video it is about the best shot I have

crazy3rdgen

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pretty nice, nothing better sounding then that for sure. Tires look like their in there nicely, so you doubt a 285 would be possible?

flrtin1

They might if the car wasn't as low or with a little massaging

Shagwell

how do I pull a pic out of "my pictures" to post it on here? - new to the picture posting thing...sorry

crazy3rdgen

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After you hit the reply button go to browse right above "submit reply" and search for the picture in "my pictures"

Shagwell

crazy3rdgen - thanks!

Shagwell

another angle - these are 315/35/17's on 17x11's. - The wheels are 8" back spacing, but I have a 4th gen rear, so maybe 6"?...

crazy3rdgen

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very nice car, i think the rims in the rear are sticking out alittle too much for me though. 315's are pretty big , I actually Have a 4th gen rear in the shop getting painted but I didnt want to run spacers up front did you have to?

Shagwell

Boyd Coddington billets is what I did. My front is something like 4.25 backspace. I wanted a little less out too, but I wanted the 315's more... - They're square w/ the top lip of the fender, but stick out front/rear w/ the body line...

- thanks for the compliments!

later, justin...

flrtin1

These are some older pics and those rear rims are 15x9 with 5 3/8 bs if I remember right those were 255's on it, I never had anything bigger mounted on those rims though. I still have those rims.... if I can find some junk 285's or 295's I will mount them and see how they fit

Shagwell

flrtin1 - gawd, thats gotta be a tire frier...
"...remember that one time I hit the gas and the back end went this way and that...oh yeah, thats everytime."

ZZ4 86 Z28

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lol, never heard anyone else use the term BFH before. in case any of you dont know it means "big f*uckin hammer" anyhow, i am looking into getting some centerline rims from someone on here and they are 15x10 and 15x4. the tires i have now are 275/60/sr15 and 215/65/r15. will these fir the centerlines? i have pictures of my current setup, but i think the wheels i have are set up with an s10 backspacing which is why they poke out a little much for my tastes.

the wheels are for sale if you are interested and i am local, if you like the look.









I think they only loook like the stick out on mine because of the lift the car has on it with the coilovers in the rear. maybe i should take them out and see how it looks.

Neil87Z28

15x8 Weld Wheels with L60-15 Mickey Thompson Indy Profile SS tires. The tires will soon be replaced with 275-60-15 MT ET Street Radials. The inner fender wheel required some clearancing and the lip was rolled. Car has been lowered quite a bit - the rear tire is 28" tall but the center of the rear fender lip is 26" off the ground.

KWIK84

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does anyone know where i can find more pictures of the "pro roc", I think i may be in love

Shagwell

- Neil87Z28

GAWD that is a thing of beauty...Tampa huh, you run at St. Pete?

mw66nova

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15x10's with a 5.5" backspacing...hope these pics help! they are my new rodlites!












and you can see here that the top lip is under the fender lip...just barely!(that straight edge is going from the fender lip to the bottom of the wheel)

Neil87Z28

Thanks Shagwell. I've only had it a few months but it's coming along. I have run the car at Sunshine Dragway on the St. Pete side and at Bradenton Motorsports Park.

83 Crossfire TA

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Well, I’ve got dozens of different pictures but a lot of what I was going to say already has a picture posted. If you have a specific request I’ll post it but almost all these combinations I’ve posted before somewhere on the board so you may want to do a search

295/50/16’s look exactly like what you see in your original picture, they’re about the same height or slightly sorter and on a typical 3/8” offset wheel pare spaced just like in that pic. The problem is that you’re not going to do a lot of street driving like that, in a big bump they will contact the outer fender lip right behind the top/center of the wheel arch, you’d have to roll or cut there, they don’t look like they’re going to contact anywhere else. With a set of factory offset rears (supposed to be 16mm offset but most that I’ve measured end up closer to ¾”) they’ll tuck in a little tighter, but I suspect that the inner wheel wells would have to be messed with.

275/50/15’s look wimpy in a normal tire but pretty decent in a drag radial (the DR’s in that size are a little more then an inch wider then they should be as per the size). I had pictures from the back that I used to use as a sig pic with some of those on the back, they look wide enough that you’d expect that they woudn’t fit, and I suspect that with a wheel that tucked them in completely you’d need to do some light massaging. I don’t think that you’ll ever quite get the look you’re looking for with them. The second thing is that they are stock height or slightly shorter which makes them hard to match up with a front tire that doesn’t look taller. I was running 215/65 15’s as “skinnies” up front with those and they looked a little funny, you weren’t sure if they were taller (by the published numbers they shouldn’t have been, but by the looks they probably were)

275/60/15’s are probably a good possibility for that really aggressive drag race look. They’re taller then the 295’s, and fairly beefy. I’ve only run them on a 3rd gen in a DR which again, is going to be wider then a normal radial. I found that I had some minor contact on the inside front like you do with any of the bigger tires and the middle of the tread touched the spare tire lump on the passenger side (the car is lowered a lot, probably somewhere in the range of a set of sportlines but stiff springs, slightly stiffer then pro kits). Neither was enough that I _had_ to do something about it, I drove it without doing something about either for probably about 2 weeks, I couldn’t hear or feel when they touched, there weren’t any marks on the tires but you can see where the undercoat was rubbed off. I suspect that they were touching when I backed out of the driveway and hit the dip at the end of it and cranked the wheel.

255/60/15’s on the back of a really lowered 3rd gen I think is about the perfect size, it looks like it was designed for it. It tucks under nicely, it’s big and aggressive looking, everyone looking at it assumes it’s a HUGE tire even though it isn’t, rides nice. Clears everything… the only disadvantage is really that there isn’t a good 255/60 tire available (same deal with the 295/50/15 or 16 or the 265/50/16, your stuck with something like a radial TA, it’s an OK tire but nothing to write home about).

If nitto made a drag radial (nitto DR’s are still just about the ultimate street tire for the back of a fast street car) in a 255/60/15, 295/50/15 or 265 or 275/50/16 I’d be running that on the back of my car and it would be easy to match something good up to the front, and my debating about this would be over.

mw66nova, every time I see your car I more and more seriously consider building a no body work camaro to swap my good stuff into, that thing looks great, and this is coming from someone that has never owned a camaro but has owned a bunch of firebirds/trans ams/formulas. And funny, I’ve been wondering what a set of rodlite’s or hoopsters would look like on an f-body, so get those mounted, I want to see. What size tires are you planning on running? FWIW, I think that you’re going to need more like 6” backspacing for them to fit right, but still…

ZZ4 86 Z28, more then anything that car sorely needs to be lowered, the wheels and tires may still not be what you really want on there, but they’d look much better if the car sat lower. Did you get your tranny issues worked out? Drop me an email and I’ll email you back a photoshop of your car lowered

mw66nova

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here are the 275/60/15 m/t ET Street radials mounted.

83 Crossfire TA

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huh, I have to say, I don't know if it's the lighting, the ride height or the angle you took those pics from but they actually look kind of small for that big a tire on that wide a rim... Kinda makes me want to lower the car or at least fog the inside of the wheel wells black...

Do you have pics with the front rims on also?

mw66nova

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no front wheels yet, will be picking those up in a few weeks.

i think it's the angle and lighting mostly. yeah, i'll be spraying the inside of the fender wells with some kind of semi-gloss black or something.

also, i have aluminum drums on my car. i slapped these wheels and tires on my buddies car to roll it around the shop and he is running the standard cast iron drums. there is a noticable difference in how much it pushes the tires out. so, i'll be swapping back to a set of cast iron drums and hope bring the tires in towards the car another 1/8"-3/16", which will be the EXACT look i'm going for....and maybe trim another 1/4 coil! cause yeah, it could definitely be lower, but i'll be doing the drum swap and painting the inner fender well first to see.

CrazyRunninIroc

I have an '89 Iroc that I am going to put a set of BFG 295/50-16s on the stock rim and do no mods to the fenders, (unless somebody thinks that is a terrible idea,) and I will let you all know the verdict of fitment and driveability.

xpndbl3

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295/50 is kinda large for a 16x8 rim, you'd be better off with a 255/50 if you wanted.

Joseph Andres

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Weld Pro Star: front 15 X 3.5 w/ 185 60 R15 radial
rear 15 X 10 X 5.5 b/s w/ 28 X 11.5 X 15 slick