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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 01:18 PM
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can i put a higher lift cam on a tpi

i have a 87 trans-am with TPI i've had it bored out and i already have a slightly higher than stock lift cam....but i want to put in a cam with a 450" gross lift....will this affect the way the computer works??

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 02:07 PM
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Lift isnt what affects the computer, its duration. What is the duration of that cam? Lift only affects the valvetrain geometry, meaning too much lift and the pistons will hit the valves, or the springs will coil-bind if they cant handle the lift. .450" should be fine for a stock TPI head.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 06:05 PM
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I am running close to .500" lift with my LT4 HOT Cam, .498 to be exact with my 1.52 rockers. And I have to stock TPI set up, so yes, it will work. But the duration is what effects the computer. I wouldn't go over 210* of duration with a stock chip, and make sure the LSA is in the area of 110*-112*.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:01 PM
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I thought that the LSA had to be 112 or greater on a tpi ?

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:24 PM
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Yes, most of the TPI cams come out with a 112-114 lobe center angle. For TPI I don't think you would want anything under 112.
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Old Apr 2, 2001 | 01:18 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dan87IROC-Z:
I am running close to .500" lift with my LT4 HOT Cam, .498 to be exact with my 1.52 rockers. And I have to stock TPI set up, so yes, it will work. But the duration is what effects the computer. I wouldn't go over 210* of duration with a stock chip, and make sure the LSA is in the area of 110*-112*.

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Stock L98(most chev heads) will accept .490" lift without coil bind of the springs. So you must have changed your springs right?????? I have to respectfully disagree about the custom chip business though. It is true that a custom chip will give better driveability and a little more power, but if you are low on money, throw whatever cam you want in and worry about the chip later. I am building my L98 right now with the LT4 Hot Cam and I am not even thinking about the chip until I have more $ or problems with the stock one. I saw a post on here that some guy put an LT4 hot cam in an L98 with ported heads and some other crap and still had the stock chip. He said he beat his buddies LT1 car that runs 13.5's..... That's what I like to hear.....hehe

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Old Apr 2, 2001 | 05:53 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 87IROC350:
Yes, most of the TPI cams come out with a 112-114 lobe center angle. For TPI I don't think you would want anything under 112.</font>
Your LSA is also going to be affected by your duration. Keep it under 220/220, and you can run 110 with no problems, like I do.

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Old Apr 2, 2001 | 07:21 AM
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Since you already have good heads w/ better than stock valve springs, you should basically run as much lift as you can without going too crazy on the duration.

What cam are you currently running? Crane makes a couple roller CompuCams that are in the range I would run. The 2031 (208/214 dur. @.050, lift of .438/.452) and the 2032 (214/220 @.050, lift of .452/.465) are both good cams.

If you are still running the stock TPI intake and exhaust manifolds, I'd go w/ the 2031, in fact if you don't have those I wouldn't mess w/ the cam assuming you have a decent cam. If you want to avoid getting a custom chip I would probably also stick w/ the 2031, the 2032 is getting on the edge of having computer problems w/o a custom chip. I'm sure it would run alright, but you wouldn't be getting all you could. I think it would be the best cam however if you are setup to run it properly. Are your roller rockers 1.6s? If so you'll be pushing plenty of lift w/ either of those cams, but the springs should still be within their limits.

All that being said, again, if you haven't upgraded the stock TPI baseplate and runners, and aren't running headers I would do those mods before I changed the cam (assuming you have something comparable or better than the stock 5spd cam {202/207 @ .050, lift of .404/.415}).

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Old Apr 2, 2001 | 06:34 PM
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I have just installed a Crane CompuCam in my 88 Iroc-Z. The lift is .462 and the duration is 214*/220* and it runs fine. The computer automatically adjusts to the cam.
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Old Apr 18, 2001 | 06:50 PM
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I installed my ZZ9 cam before I converted to carb and had no problems whatsoever. The car ran strong. The ZZ9 is .488/.510, and I was running 1.6 rockers.
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