jeff1367

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Can anybody tell me about these? They are only like $104, and I'm on kind of a limited budget! Will they bolt right in place of the stock manifolds? If not, how close will they come? I don't have to worry about air tubes or anything, and I will weld my own O2 sensor fitting in, I was just wondering if these are worth my money!
-Jeff

dirtybird

I have them on my car, yes they will bolt right on, you may have to unbolt one or both motor mounts and bring the engine up to drop the headers in. Make sure if you put them on, run your car outside because they smoke like a ****, the paint doesnt stay on at all.

jeff1367

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alright thanks for the help

dirtybird

Oh yea heres a pic

CAMp3RO

i didnt have to unbolt anything except the starter (which wasnt on to begin with). they pretty much just fell right in. make sure to pick up the y-pipe too (its only $100). i got an o2 bung welded in to mine, no biggie. fit pretty well. however, clean off the crappy paint they send em in, its only meant to protect during shipping. i painted mine up with high temp (1500+) paint. just make sure to clean em up good before you paint em, i neglected a couple spots and they are now starting to show up.

jeff1367

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Alright, thanks for all the help...looks like I'm gonna be buying these tonight! I wont need the y-pipe, because I have 2 cats after the exhaust manifolds, and then after the cats, it goes into one tube.

slickrock55

camp3ro is right. get rid of that paint if you want them to last any amount of time. i know its a small investment, but i stripped them and rattle-canned them with VHT hi-temp coating. Mine bolted right in, except for clearancing of a summit chrome oil pan. it should fit a stocker though

jeff1367

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Well, I got them, and I started sanding them, but I gotta go get some more sand paper tomorrow. I bought some 1500 degree paint from pep boys, so that should do the trick. Thanks again for all the help!

GTA400SBC

If you was to use a high temp primer and regular engine pain will it hold up? i was thinking of doing this to my headers

johnsjj2

I don't think that will work. THe temp will melt the paint, and if it is bonded to the primer, that will probably come off as well.

YellowDmon

Jeff,
Where did you find the hedman hedders for that price? I am looking in to getting some also. thanks
Kyle

jeff1367

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I got them from Jegs

YellowDmon

Ok.. Thanks

jeff1367

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No problem!

DURTYBIRD

Is mine the only car that didn't come with the 3-bolt flanges on the Y-pipe connector? Plus, the connections for the header to y-pipe are not in the same position as stock...meaning you need the hedman y-pipe - or a competent exhaust shop to customize the stock one.

GOFASTER

Just bought the same headers from summit. I got mine for $109, not a bad price. My last 3rd gen (1992 Z28 5.7 TPI) I ran the hooker comp headers that went for $150, needless to say I loved them and had great luck all around. This time around with my new project car, I spent all my money on the motor and forgot to save money for headers, so I had just enough to get the headman hedders as talked about. I hope they last and hold up against the HP my car will be putting out. I skipped the Y pipe thing, as I will run open headers until I get a custom "true dual" 3" exhaust system set up. Now to look into that...

Headers are headers to me, ran many different types and had no problems with any of them.

SilverTA

I just bought some Flowtech headers for my '87 TA. My mechanic talked me out of installing them because they didn't come with a cat and he says headers don't run well in cold weather.
Is anyone having trouble with cold weather running? Oh, and he also said they would produce a perpetual "check engine" light because of a lack of proper emissions fittings.
What are your experiences with this? If I can find a way to get some that run well in all seasons and don't screw up the engine computer, I'd really like the extra power.
tanks in advance.

GOFASTER

SilverTA, you just live about an hour from me, I live 20 minutes south of Lousiville.

Don't listen to your mechanic, have someone install the headers, they will run good reguardless of the cold weahter. Exhaust is going to get warm, if its stock or aftermarket headers it will get warm. You will be good, just install them and have a y pipe custom made to fit to your cats.

Headers are a good up grade, just get a nice flowing exhaust to match it.

In kencutky, you still have a few months before it gets really cold, so don't worry about it, get them installed and go with it.

Any questions, e-mail me, as I said I am just right down the street.

BikertrashDude

is it worth getting hedmans or spend the extra 50-60 bucks for a "name" brand. hookers, edelbrocks etc
thanks
biker

GOFASTER

Headman is a good name brand. Same headers IMO. Go with the headmans for $109, and save your $50 for something else, like a new flowmaster or something. The basic street hooker's, headman's and others are all the same. If you want super comp style headers, you will be paying over $300 for them.

SilverTA

Thanks Gofaster. As a matter of fact, I bought this car in Louisville. I got it from a nurse at the Jewish Hospital. She was the original owner and took excellent care of it. She had even put in a K & N filter and performance chip.
Here's a pic. It needs a little minor body and paint work, but otherwise, it's in great shape. I just want to make it GOFASTER!

GOFASTER

Dam SilverTA, looks like you got a good deal! I love that silver, and I love 3rd gen TA's.... We need to get together sometime. As I said right now I live 20 minutes south of Lousiville (Radcliff, KY FORT KNOX, KY). Anytime you want to do something like that, just e-mail me ryanflowe@cs.com

My 1991 RS is in the shop right under going a new 383 SB (with the works, over 500HP) and a 3500 stall. After that, the car will recive true 3" dual exhaust with flowmasters and 3" dumps under the car, eaton posi unit, 4:10 gears, shift kit, NOS, roll cage, auto meter gauges, possible cowl hood if I cannot clear the motor, 17-18" wheels, and more. The car is nice, clean and ready for racing. It's bright red with red interior and t-tops. I love this car, I had a 1992 Z28 5.7 TPI that ran low 12's with a stock motor, headers and NOS on slicks, but sold it for $7200 this past summer to start on something that would really move and in favor of a carb set up.

I should have my RS back around the 1st of DEC, after the motor swap, gears, posi, stall and shift kit are done. You should take a drive out here to check her out and let me see that great looking TA of yours.

Anyway, e-mail me later!

bluegrassz

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GOFASTER, SilverTA. Hey im from ky too. I live near london. About 75 miles south of lexington right off I-75.

I have a set of hedman long tubes that I am putting on my car. I had a set of the block huggers on a truck that I liked. The sounded good and were well built.

GOFASTER

Kentucky members coming out of the wood-work! We should all get together in Lousiville or something and show off our cars! Anyone go to the Ohio Valley Race track?

Lets set something up!

bluegrassz, e-mail me if you want!

bluegrassz

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You just got a pm.

GOFASTER

So did you.... E-mail me!

Where did the guy with the red ram air pontiac on your site you e-mailed me get them wheels from? Them look like corbra wheels, how did he mount them?


Thanks

Kingtal0n

Maybe its just my freaked up car, but where my Hedman header bolts to my Y-pipe (3 bolt flange) It rubs up against the starter and the side of the car in front of the firewall. During a cruise I hear it rubbing it makes an annoying noise... and im worried about my poor starter.

It didn;t start doing this however Until I installed some Auluminum Collector gaskets. The gaskets solved most of the leaking but I guess they take up more room than paper and they rub on my car.

Just my experience. Otherwise they work great (2 yrs. now)
But I would not hesitte to buy some long-tubes to complete my custom exhaust.

GOFASTER

I have been told that a little "tweaking" needs to go into long tube headers on our cars, however, it's worth it if your going all out and need that motor of yours to breath.

You just cannot beat long tube headers for the power, and considering the price ($109 compared to shorties that fit good and are 50 state legal at $300 or more) I would go with the long tube street type headers anyday.

Do a search on that rubbing with your headers and starter, I have read on this board before why that happens and what one member did to correct it.

Has anyone else sanded there headers and put high temp header coat paint on theres? Trying to figure out if it's worth the extra work.

bluegrassz

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I plan on using VHT on mine. The shipping paint seems to chip off easily so it should sand off ok. I though about using paint thinner and a towel. Just lay the soaked towel on the headers and leave it for an while and see if it helps. Just an idea I though I would try.

If I had an extra oven, I would use some of the coatings at
www.thermaltechcoatings.com

check them out.

GOFASTER

bluegrassz, can you tell me anything about the wheels on your friends red ram air pontiac on the kentucky f-body web page?

Corbra wheels? Where did he get them, how much, do they mount right up to our cars?

Thanks

bluegrassz

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I sent a e-mail about them, but it may have not sent.

anyway yeah they are cobra R's. I think he got them from

www.performancewheeloutlet.com

They have fitments for the f-body and also have 17-18" iroc wheels as well as the Z-06,ZR 1, and Y2K corvette.

Oh yeah he is also running spacers. Just pm badgta and he can tell you all about them.

SilverTA

Geez Gofaster, sounds like a helluva car you've got there! I'll bet it's a blast to drive. My TA just developped a phanton rattle from the right rear hatch area.
It seems the more I plan to customize it, the more stuff I have to fix. But it's still fun to drive and turns heads. Maybe you and Bluegrassz and I could meet in Louisville some Saturday afternoon and cruise....after you get your beast out of the shop and I get my carb replaced.

SilverTA

btw, Gofaster, what are "long tube headers"? Do those work with cats?

GOFASTER

Long tube headers are the regular old style headers, that are long and come all the way down, not like the new style headers you see on the newer cars, they are the shorty style headers, designed to fit tight places, like the newer cars are. Are cars will fit the long tube headers with cats, but you have to do some "tweaking" to the old exhaust to get them all to fit.

jamesbob02

GOFASTER, what sort of "tweaking" needs to be done to fit long-tube headers? BTW, I have a '92 z28 25th anniversary 5.7l 350, if that helps.

GOFASTER

Sometimes you have to mess with the floor pans where the header collectors are. They are to high and sometime bump the floor pan. Also, where the starter is needs a little work sometimes. It tends to hit or rub on the starter, so you may need a smaller or different starter. For additonial info try a search and read what others have said, that is where I seen that from.

badgta

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hello!!!! was you guys talking about me???? lol.....

i'm the only shmuck on here dumb enough to put a ford rim on a ta!!! lol.......

the only reason i like them is 1, i haven't seen anyone else running them on a thirdgen, and 2, theyre 5 spoke, which looks awsome on our cars..........

i wish i would have tried roh snypers, thats way i wouldn't have to worry about the spacers.....

hey, send me some pics and a mods list and let us post pics of you guys cars on our site, that will get e'm some exposure!!!

can't wait to meet you guys one day...... if i can ever get my pos car running.......

GOFASTER

SilverTA: Yeah, the car sounds like it will move! I am so excited to get her running I cannot sleep some nights. (HE HE). Once I get her running again you should e-mail me and we can met up and go crusing. However, my car will not really be ment to do any long drives, as it will be a drag car that makes TONS of noise on the road and shakes like a tug boat. With the solid motor mounts and the cam (solid) it will be a shaker at idel (you got to love that!).... Keep modding away, don't let a rattle in the rear deck get you down. Keep it so it can "GOFASTER!"

badgta: Yeah I was talking about you.. You car is the bomb. I love them wheels... They are perfect for our 3rd gens, if you do a search I was asking about mounting them wheels on my old 1992 Z over a year ago before they even started making them. I LOVE THEM... Best wheel choice by far, looks good! As I said, once I get my car up and running I will get pics to ya for the site. Also you should try to met up with SilverTA & bluegrassz and I in louisville area sometime. Shot me a chain e-mail (with all the Kentucky members) and will chat about it.

Laters,

GOFASTER......

badgta

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well, it looks like someone set a bomb off on it, but its defanantly not the pooo.... well, it smells like poo sense it's sit outside for 6 months...... i better stop rambiling........lol j/k!!!!!!

yeah, we've tried to get a meeting up in the past, and i'm sure that it will happen soon, but until me and wayne gets our stuff straightend out, it will be a while.....

i mean, i cant speak for z, but i'm sure he would want his car right so we all could have some fun!!

i was thinking about surronding the meet up around some sort of event, to help out the moral of the women...... i think our wives, and girlfriends, which ever ya have would get bored sitting around talking cars...... maybe, a big fair??? the options are unlimited.....

now if i can get that small base in and it clears........

ahhh one day hopefully.......

GOFASTER

Sorry, the "bomb" is some slang I picked up for cool, or great wheels. I love them wheels a lot! In fact, send me an e-mail I woud be willing to give you good money for them wheels so you could get them new ROH wheels you want? We could work something out so I buy them for what you need for the ROH's at no cost out of pocket to you at all? Let me know, send me an e-mail or something.

Your car looks great. Is that 2 bolt mains block going in your car? Are you going to make it 4 bolt mains? Looks like a clean motor. Give us details!

As far as a meeting goes, a fair or something like that sounds good to me. Maybe in a few months or something? My wife would NOT mind sitting around an talking cars, she is into them as much (almost) as I am. But, if your lady is not, we could set something up so the woman could go off and talk nitting or something like that (lol).

Let me know what you think!

SilverTA

My wife isn't interested in car stuff either, but she's pretty tolerant.
There's a weeky get together here in Lexington each Saturday evening at a local drive in called the Parquette. It's the unofficial weekly meetingplace of the local SCCA and the birthplace of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Unless a more central site is desired, we could just meet there.
We'd also have the pleasure of seeing some other interesting iron. Last time I was at the Parquette, there was a new jag and a kit Cobra there.

badgta

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i think i'll hang on to them....... besides, thats the only thing that gets my car attention is the cobras.....

the motor is a 383 i'm building.... it has all the goodies in my opinion.....

scat crank, scat rods, speedpro lightweight flatops, etc

sitting on top is afr 190's brething through a holley stealthram...... feeding this is brand new ford racing 30lb injectors.. also i still will have my nos 05151 kit with a 100hp shot.....

i would be driving it right now but the rods hit the cam pretty bad.... also the clearences are tighter with these rods in other places as well....... thats why i wanted to see you clearences on yours to compare to mine..... i wish now i just built a 355 and be done with it, but i wanted this one to be a torque monster....

hopefully the cam will be here soon and it dosen't hit i'll be in business....

well, i better get going, i'll see yaz later......