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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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Founders Performance

great products and prices. especially their relocation brackets for the LCA's and adjustable Panhard bars.

shipping is VERY cheap, and products came very well packed and pretty quick.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Quick question. I just ordered the same kit from Founders also about 4 days ago and my order still at "Awaiting Fulfillment".

I sent them an email on the site asking for expected ship date so I can plan my weekends on some work, end links, shocks, panhard,etc... with no response.

I was wondering is this normal for them or is pretty quick shipping about two weeks. No big deal but did not want to complain unless something is out of the ordinary..
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Its not uncommon for companies to "build to order" I've delt with it and its worth the wait. Founders stuff is a lot cheaper than say UMI or BMR's suspension pieces
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

i bought the rear trailing arms and panhard bar,,,good price and parts..next is the strut mounts,,i wish they would make tubular lower a arms for 3rd gens ...i would get those too.
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Yeah my plan is to do that as well but I have some other things up front to fix first, (guy I bought from mig welded the header pipe to the exhaust at all points) so a little mess to fix.

Anyway back to topic. I figured it might take a while but just wanted to confirm... thanks
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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I ordered control arms and a panhard bar on Wed 6/22. I emailed and asked for tracking ans told they were closed and would reopen Monday 6/27.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Got a reply yesterday also. Was told it would ship today or tomorrow. So all is good...
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Well it took almost three weeks to arrive but I finally got the parts. They are well constructed. Looking forward to trying them out with the new kyb and endlinks..
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

I hate to question the quality of parts that people do seem to be happy with. But how are the Founders parts compared to a place like J&M Products at hotpart.com?

I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

I've heard good things about founder's quality thus far.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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i have been wanting to see how their quality is.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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well you can buy me some strut mounts and i'll let you know buddy
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

So far just having them in hand. The quality is way better than oem, not something I would use on a 1/4 track, but for a daily driver / a little fun I would say it falls in the mid-range class of performance quality. Plus it is made in the USA so they get my business..
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by UnderCover89TBI
well you can buy me some strut mounts and i'll let you know buddy
ill purchase the strut mounts for you if you purchase my brake upgrade kit.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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awww darn its goin to be like that....haha
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
I hate to question the quality of parts that people do seem to be happy with. But how are the Founders parts compared to a place like J&M Products at hotpart.com?

I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
those brackets are the only part i have bought from founders and they are very well made. I would buy them again long before i spent more elsewhere for them
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
those brackets are the only part i have bought from founders and they are very well made. I would buy them again long before i spent more elsewhere for them
Just bought a set of the RLCA relocation brackets myself and I am quite happy with the product. Mine had a TINY flaw in the coating, but not something I'm overly concerned about.

My order was shipped very quickly as well!
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

I just ordered my LCA, Panhard, and Relocation Brackets. Pretty Excited about my purchase. Can't wait to get it on the car.
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

I ordered the LCA, PHB, and relocation brackets. Everything came in well packed and shipped fast. I got these a couple of days ago. The hurricane stopped me from being able to put them on! I can't wait to put these on the car see how much different the car feels. Thanks to Founders for not breaking the bank!
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Well I have had mine installed for a solid month now. Handling is significantly better over stock. So for the price, and the gain over stock very impressed, now I wish they would make some SFC and tower braces...
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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i have had my strut mounts on for a couple of weeks now and i love them. now yes my old ones where way past due to be switched out but i do like the way the car feels with the new ones on. I will be ordering more things from them in the next couple of weeks very good product shipping and well customer service!!!!!
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Iam not happy with there lca. Looks to be welded nice but there zerk fittings were stipped out.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

If you have a problem, you can call us at 805-541-2254 or email us directly at sales@foundersperformance.com and we would be happy to resolve the issue for you.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by FoundersPerf
If you have a problem, you can call us at 805-541-2254 or email us directly at sales@foundersperformance.com and we would be happy to resolve the issue for you.
Yeah, I called and left a detailed message with my name and number. Knowone has called me back!.. It's not like i can just send them back i sold my stock ones to a friend that was in need. And these are on my everyday driver. "Was there a issue with the zerk fittings being faulty"?
BOUGHT ON 6-1-11 thru the pop up on here using pay-pal, my last name is KORN
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by KORNUTS
Yeah, I called and left a detailed message with my name and number. Knowone has called me back!.. It's not like i can just send them back i sold my stock ones to a friend that was in need. And these are on my everyday driver. "Was there a issue with the zerk fittings being faulty"?
BOUGHT ON 6-1-11 thru the pop up on here using pay-pal, my last name is KORN
I am the only one who manages the phones and I looked through all of my notes and back messages along with our caller ID phone records and I can't find anywhere that you called us and left a message. Please call us again and we will get you taken care of. The number again is 805-541-2254.
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Hey Founders Perf,

You guys having any sales for labor day?? I'm interested in the caster camber plates for my camaro and single adjustable rear lcas and panhard for the TA.
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Sorry but at the pricing we have we don't have any profit left to offer sales. Our hard material costs have been rising lately and we are doing everything we can to keep our pricing the same.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Hey Founders,
Any chance on a strut tower brace or sub frame connectors?

P.S. Love my panhard bar and LCA's.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

We do have plans on subframe connectors but nothing on the shock tower brace at this time. We do have our panhard rod relocation kits at powdercoat.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Brian do you care to explain this situation for us?

Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
Maybe hotpart would care to explain why they replied to a remark about Founders. Oh wait...I already know the answer!

It is because hotparts.com/J&M & Founders.com is the SAME company! Yep. Same company, 2 different names & 2 different prices for the SAME items! So is hotpart is talking down on his own company?

LCARBs
$47 from Founders Performance.
$80 from J&M/hotparts.com.
Why a $33 price difference for the same item?

Strut mount
$170 from Founders vs $218 from hotpart/J&M. Why a $47 difference? Different bearings?

Looking up the URL registrations you will find:
FoundersPerformance.com is registered to
CROUTCHER, BRIAN sales@foundersperformance.com
Founders Performance LLC

hotpart,com is registered to,
Croutcher, Brian brian@hotpart.com
J&M Products

Anybody can verify this for themselves by looking up the URL registration.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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looking forward to seeing those subframe connectors..
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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do the adjustable lca's come set at stock length founders? just wondering...

same for the panhard bar? im gonna order both with rod ends
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by tubbytownsend13
do the adjustable lca's come set at stock length founders? just wondering...

same for the panhard bar? im gonna order both with rod ends
We don't preset them at factory length.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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Whats the eta on the subframes? Price range? Round or box?
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by KiLLJ0Y
Whats the eta on the subframes? Price range? Round or box?
We have a couple of things ahead of them but hoping to have them ready in the next few months. We haven't decided yet on round or square. We will need to look at the car to determine which will be better.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

I recently purchased the LCA's and PHB set up with rod ends. Product was awesome, the only issue I had was the spacers were not the offset style as shown on their website. I contacted them about it and they had the correct ones to me in the mail within 2 days. Awesome to do business with, and will be buying more from them in the future!
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by 1MeanZ
Brian do you care to explain this situation for us?
Interesting to say the least. However, I don't know if that would stop me from ordering from them. I did check out LCA relocate brackets from both Founder's website and J&M and the particular item was the same item number, 23881R but with vastly different pricing. One was about $48 and the other about $90. That is quite a discrepancy. Makes me wonder if the cheaper ones are blems or some such thing. For a 50% discount I can put up with a little paint problem, heck, the things are underneath the car any way and one trip down the highway can scratch the jabeezus out of 'em.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZ3 Z28
Interesting to say the least. However, I don't know if that would stop me from ordering from them. I did check out LCA relocate brackets from both Founder's website and J&M and the particular item was the same item number, 23881R but with vastly different pricing. One was about $48 and the other about $90. That is quite a discrepancy. Makes me wonder if the cheaper ones are blems or some such thing. For a 50% discount I can put up with a little paint problem, heck, the things are underneath the car any way and one trip down the highway can scratch the jabeezus out of 'em.
i don't blame a company for wanting to make money.im just glad we are able to get the best prices.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

My stuff came yesterday, packed really well, look like great quality, cannot wait to get them on the car
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Just got and installed my panhard bar from Founders today. Great quality and they are great to work with. Highly recommended.

Mark.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Hey Founders, whats the ETA on those thirdgen subframes??? i see the 4thgen ones are out, fantastic price too.. i have money burning a hole in my pocket.. hurry up
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

i have a question. is it really worth the price difference from founders and umi? i matched up both brands with the same parts and founders is over 350.00 cheaper than umi. (panhard relocation kit, on car adj panhard bar, on car adj control arms, control arm relocation kit, and camber plates). any thoughts?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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i have a question. is it really worth the price difference from founders and umi? i matched up both brands with the same parts and founders is over 350.00 cheaper than umi. (panhard relocation kit, on car adj panhard bar, on car adj control arms, control arm relocation kit, and camber plates). any thoughts?

yeah, its called OVER paying. Founders are a great company that make quality parts, being that they are new and cheaper, people think they are sub-par. they are not. UMI was at one time, the only game in town for a few selected parts and their prices show that.

Now im not knocking UMI, i have bought plently from them in the past, I think compaired to Founders, their quality is just as good, so why pay more for the same quality? that, then, comes down to paying for the name.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

yea. i bought umi's new k member and tunnel mounted torque arm with crossmember. i might have to buy founders rear suspension and camber plates to save almost 400.00
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

What bothers me about Founders is that it is J&M/hotparts.com, just operating under a different name.

Why the 3 different names & 2 different pricing schedules, for the same parts? That being said...I probably will still buy the Founders parts, I just wish there was a little more honesty. Selling your same parts for half the price under a different name doesn't strike me as honest business.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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just be happy thier is a company like Founder's out there. I wish they were around awhile back when I did my suspension mods. Id have a couple hundred more dollars in my pocket.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover89TBI
just be happy thier is a company like Founder's out there. I wish they were around awhile back when I did my suspension mods. Id have a couple hundred more dollars in my pocket.

I'm happy with the PRICES. It isn't a "new" company. J&M/hotpart.com simply created a 3rd business name for themselves, Founders, & is selling the exact same parts for half their price. "Gimme $50 or $100 for this & that will tell me which company name decal to put on it."
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

im going to order the entire line of founders parts when taxes come in and umi for the rest
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Re: Founders Performance

Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
I'm happy with the PRICES. It isn't a "new" company. J&M/hotpart.com simply created a 3rd business name for themselves, Founders, & is selling the exact same parts for half their price. "Gimme $50 or $100 for this & that will tell me which company name decal to put on it."
and your still complaining. you can buy the same parts cheaper. why complain that is a good thing. instead your goign to make them raise thier prices. I figure if your dumb enough to pay more for the part when thier is a cheaper option out there than that is your fault not thiers
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