Founders Performance
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,642
Likes: 2
From: Pleasant Grove, Utah
Car: 1993 GMC Typhoon
Engine: 4.3 Turbo
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Founders Performance
great products and prices. especially their relocation brackets for the LCA's and adjustable Panhard bars.
shipping is VERY cheap, and products came very well packed and pretty quick.
shipping is VERY cheap, and products came very well packed and pretty quick.
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Car: 1989 Iroc Z 28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Founders Performance
Quick question. I just ordered the same kit from Founders also about 4 days ago and my order still at "Awaiting Fulfillment".
I sent them an email on the site asking for expected ship date so I can plan my weekends on some work, end links, shocks, panhard,etc... with no response.
I was wondering is this normal for them or is pretty quick shipping about two weeks. No big deal but did not want to complain unless something is out of the ordinary..
I sent them an email on the site asking for expected ship date so I can plan my weekends on some work, end links, shocks, panhard,etc... with no response.
I was wondering is this normal for them or is pretty quick shipping about two weeks. No big deal but did not want to complain unless something is out of the ordinary..
Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 491
Likes: 1
From: Lapeer, MI
Car: 86 IROC, 89 GTA
Engine: 350 blocks, both of em
Transmission: 700r4s
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt and 9 bolt, 3.73, 3.23
Re: Founders Performance
Its not uncommon for companies to "build to order" I've delt with it and its worth the wait. Founders stuff is a lot cheaper than say UMI or BMR's suspension pieces
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
From: montreal-canada
Car: 1985 camaro Z/28
Engine: 305 V/8 4bbl carb
Transmission: T5 WC
Axle/Gears: 3-23 posi with 4 wheel discs
Re: Founders Performance
i bought the rear trailing arms and panhard bar,,,good price and parts..next is the strut mounts,,i wish they would make tubular lower a arms for 3rd gens ...i would get those too.
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Car: 1989 Iroc Z 28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Founders Performance
Yeah my plan is to do that as well but I have some other things up front to fix first, (guy I bought from mig welded the header pipe to the exhaust at all points) so a little mess to fix. 
Anyway back to topic. I figured it might take a while but just wanted to confirm... thanks

Anyway back to topic. I figured it might take a while but just wanted to confirm... thanks
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 857
Likes: 5
From: Niles, IL
Car: '91 LS6/T56/9"
Engine: LS6
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Currie 9"/4.11, detroit truetrac
Re: Founders Performance
I ordered control arms and a panhard bar on Wed 6/22. I emailed and asked for tracking ans told they were closed and would reopen Monday 6/27.
Trending Topics
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Car: 1989 Iroc Z 28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Founders Performance
Well it took almost three weeks to arrive but I finally got the parts. They are well constructed. Looking forward to trying them out with the new kyb and endlinks..
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 4
From: Central Texas
Car: GTA
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Aussie 9-bolt/3.27 posi
Re: Founders Performance
I hate to question the quality of parts that people do seem to be happy with. But how are the Founders parts compared to a place like J&M Products at hotpart.com?
I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
Supreme Member
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,260
Likes: 5
From: Manteca,California. Nor Cal.
Car: SOLD IT. Mopar guy only now.
Engine: gone
Transmission: gone
Axle/Gears: gone
Re: Founders Performance
I've heard good things about founder's quality thus far.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,260
Likes: 5
From: Manteca,California. Nor Cal.
Car: SOLD IT. Mopar guy only now.
Engine: gone
Transmission: gone
Axle/Gears: gone
Re: Founders Performance
well you can buy me some strut mounts and i'll let you know buddy
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Car: 1989 Iroc Z 28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Founders Performance
So far just having them in hand. The quality is way better than oem, not something I would use on a 1/4 track, but for a daily driver / a little fun I would say it falls in the mid-range class of performance quality. Plus it is made in the USA so they get my business..
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,812
Likes: 110
From: Central NJ
Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 408 stroker sbc
Transmission: TKO600
Axle/Gears: Moser full floater m9, 3:70 trutrac
Re: Founders Performance
I hate to question the quality of parts that people do seem to be happy with. But how are the Founders parts compared to a place like J&M Products at hotpart.com?
I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
I was looking at the LCA Relocation brackets for $47 vs $80. For 60% of the price, are they 60% of the quality too?
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Car: '89 GTA
Engine: 5.7L LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.27
Re: Founders Performance
My order was shipped very quickly as well!
Junior Member

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Augusta, Ga
Car: 91 Z28, 2014 ZL1
Engine: 383, LSA
Transmission: WC T-5, T6060
Axle/Gears: 3.73 in both
Re: Founders Performance
I just ordered my LCA, Panhard, and Relocation Brackets. Pretty Excited about my purchase. Can't wait to get it on the car.
Junior Member

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: Augusta, Ga
Car: 91 Z28, 2014 ZL1
Engine: 383, LSA
Transmission: WC T-5, T6060
Axle/Gears: 3.73 in both
Re: Founders Performance
I ordered the LCA, PHB, and relocation brackets. Everything came in well packed and shipped fast. I got these a couple of days ago. The hurricane stopped me from being able to put them on! I can't wait to put these on the car see how much different the car feels. Thanks to Founders for not breaking the bank!
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Car: 1989 Iroc Z 28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: Stock
Re: Founders Performance
Well I have had mine installed for a solid month now. Handling is significantly better over stock. So for the price, and the gain over stock very impressed, now I wish they would make some SFC and tower braces...
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 540
Likes: 1
From: Fort Worth TX
Car: 89Z28 Vert
Engine: 350/tbi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.27 Posi
Re: Founders Performance
i have had my strut mounts on for a couple of weeks now and i love them. now yes my old ones where way past due to be switched out but i do like the way the car feels with the new ones on. I will be ordering more things from them in the next couple of weeks very good product shipping and well customer service!!!!!




Re: Founders Performance
If you have a problem, you can call us at 805-541-2254 or email us directly at sales@foundersperformance.com and we would be happy to resolve the issue for you.
Re: Founders Performance
If you have a problem, you can call us at 805-541-2254 or email us directly at sales@foundersperformance.com and we would be happy to resolve the issue for you.
BOUGHT ON 6-1-11 thru the pop up on here using pay-pal, my last name is KORN
Re: Founders Performance
Yeah, I called and left a detailed message with my name and number. Knowone has called me back!.. It's not like i can just send them back i sold my stock ones to a friend that was in need. And these are on my everyday driver. "Was there a issue with the zerk fittings being faulty"?
BOUGHT ON 6-1-11 thru the pop up on here using pay-pal, my last name is KORN
BOUGHT ON 6-1-11 thru the pop up on here using pay-pal, my last name is KORN
Supreme Member
iTrader: (7)
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,468
Likes: 0
From: Minnesota
Car: 89 IROC-Z
Engine: 370 LSX, LS3 Top End
Transmission: Built T-56
Axle/Gears: 9" Aluminum Center 3.89's
Re: Founders Performance
Hey Founders Perf,
You guys having any sales for labor day?? I'm interested in the caster camber plates for my camaro and single adjustable rear lcas and panhard for the TA.
You guys having any sales for labor day?? I'm interested in the caster camber plates for my camaro and single adjustable rear lcas and panhard for the TA.
Re: Founders Performance
Sorry but at the pricing we have we don't have any profit left to offer sales. Our hard material costs have been rising lately and we are doing everything we can to keep our pricing the same.
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 529
Likes: 1
From: Tennessee
Car: 1988 IROC
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4 Silver Dart
Axle/Gears: 3.70 posi
Re: Founders Performance
Hey Founders,
Any chance on a strut tower brace or sub frame connectors?
P.S. Love my panhard bar and LCA's.
Any chance on a strut tower brace or sub frame connectors?
P.S. Love my panhard bar and LCA's.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,984
Likes: 37
From: North Central Indiana
Car: 86 IROC
Engine: 383
Transmission: TKO 600
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44 IRS
Re: Founders Performance
Brian do you care to explain this situation for us?
Maybe hotpart would care to explain why they replied to a remark about Founders. Oh wait...I already know the answer!
It is because hotparts.com/J&M & Founders.com is the SAME company! Yep. Same company, 2 different names & 2 different prices for the SAME items! So is hotpart is talking down on his own company?
LCARBs
$47 from Founders Performance.
$80 from J&M/hotparts.com.
Why a $33 price difference for the same item?
Strut mount
$170 from Founders vs $218 from hotpart/J&M. Why a $47 difference? Different bearings?
Looking up the URL registrations you will find:
FoundersPerformance.com is registered to
CROUTCHER, BRIAN sales@foundersperformance.com
Founders Performance LLC
hotpart,com is registered to,
Croutcher, Brian brian@hotpart.com
J&M Products
Anybody can verify this for themselves by looking up the URL registration.
It is because hotparts.com/J&M & Founders.com is the SAME company! Yep. Same company, 2 different names & 2 different prices for the SAME items! So is hotpart is talking down on his own company?
LCARBs
$47 from Founders Performance.
$80 from J&M/hotparts.com.
Why a $33 price difference for the same item?
Strut mount
$170 from Founders vs $218 from hotpart/J&M. Why a $47 difference? Different bearings?
Looking up the URL registrations you will find:
FoundersPerformance.com is registered to
CROUTCHER, BRIAN sales@foundersperformance.com
Founders Performance LLC
hotpart,com is registered to,
Croutcher, Brian brian@hotpart.com
J&M Products
Anybody can verify this for themselves by looking up the URL registration.
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: phillipsburg, nj
Car: 87 iroc
Engine: mostly stock 5.7
Transmission: jasper stage 2 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: Founders Performance
do the adjustable lca's come set at stock length founders? just wondering...
same for the panhard bar? im gonna order both with rod ends
same for the panhard bar? im gonna order both with rod ends
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,642
Likes: 2
From: Pleasant Grove, Utah
Car: 1993 GMC Typhoon
Engine: 4.3 Turbo
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Founders Performance
Whats the eta on the subframes? Price range? Round or box?
Re: Founders Performance
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 831
Likes: 1
From: Midwest IL
Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: Alky 360
Transmission: TH400, Freakshow 9.5"
Axle/Gears: 9" 4.71
Re: Founders Performance
I recently purchased the LCA's and PHB set up with rod ends. Product was awesome, the only issue I had was the spacers were not the offset style as shown on their website. I contacted them about it and they had the correct ones to me in the mail within 2 days. Awesome to do business with, and will be buying more from them in the future!
Re: Founders Performance
Interesting to say the least. However, I don't know if that would stop me from ordering from them. I did check out LCA relocate brackets from both Founder's website and J&M and the particular item was the same item number, 23881R but with vastly different pricing. One was about $48 and the other about $90. That is quite a discrepancy. Makes me wonder if the cheaper ones are blems or some such thing. For a 50% discount I can put up with a little paint problem, heck, the things are underneath the car any way and one trip down the highway can scratch the jabeezus out of 'em.
Supreme Member
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 1
From: stallings,n.c.
Car: 1989 camaro rs convertable
Engine: 305 tbi
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 7.5"3.42 gears forth gen 2000 camar
Re: Founders Performance
Interesting to say the least. However, I don't know if that would stop me from ordering from them. I did check out LCA relocate brackets from both Founder's website and J&M and the particular item was the same item number, 23881R but with vastly different pricing. One was about $48 and the other about $90. That is quite a discrepancy. Makes me wonder if the cheaper ones are blems or some such thing. For a 50% discount I can put up with a little paint problem, heck, the things are underneath the car any way and one trip down the highway can scratch the jabeezus out of 'em.
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
From: FL
Engine: 355 Super Charged
Transmission: B&M Streetfighter
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 342
Re: Founders Performance
My stuff came yesterday, packed really well, look like great quality, cannot wait to get them on the car
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 374
Likes: 2
From: Ankeny Iowa
Car: 84 Camaro
Engine: 357
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 4.10's / Strange LSD
Re: Founders Performance
Just got and installed my panhard bar from Founders today. Great quality and they are great to work with. Highly recommended.
Mark.

Mark.
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,642
Likes: 2
From: Pleasant Grove, Utah
Car: 1993 GMC Typhoon
Engine: 4.3 Turbo
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Founders Performance
Hey Founders, whats the ETA on those thirdgen subframes??? i see the 4thgen ones are out, fantastic price too.. i have money burning a hole in my pocket.. hurry up
Re: Founders Performance
i have a question. is it really worth the price difference from founders and umi? i matched up both brands with the same parts and founders is over 350.00 cheaper than umi. (panhard relocation kit, on car adj panhard bar, on car adj control arms, control arm relocation kit, and camber plates). any thoughts?
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,642
Likes: 2
From: Pleasant Grove, Utah
Car: 1993 GMC Typhoon
Engine: 4.3 Turbo
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Founders Performance
i have a question. is it really worth the price difference from founders and umi? i matched up both brands with the same parts and founders is over 350.00 cheaper than umi. (panhard relocation kit, on car adj panhard bar, on car adj control arms, control arm relocation kit, and camber plates). any thoughts?
yeah, its called OVER paying. Founders are a great company that make quality parts, being that they are new and cheaper, people think they are sub-par. they are not. UMI was at one time, the only game in town for a few selected parts and their prices show that.
Now im not knocking UMI, i have bought plently from them in the past, I think compaired to Founders, their quality is just as good, so why pay more for the same quality? that, then, comes down to paying for the name.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 4
From: Central Texas
Car: GTA
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Aussie 9-bolt/3.27 posi
Re: Founders Performance
What bothers me about Founders is that it is J&M/hotparts.com, just operating under a different name.
Why the 3 different names & 2 different pricing schedules, for the same parts? That being said...I probably will still buy the Founders parts, I just wish there was a little more honesty. Selling your same parts for half the price under a different name doesn't strike me as honest business.
Why the 3 different names & 2 different pricing schedules, for the same parts? That being said...I probably will still buy the Founders parts, I just wish there was a little more honesty. Selling your same parts for half the price under a different name doesn't strike me as honest business.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,260
Likes: 5
From: Manteca,California. Nor Cal.
Car: SOLD IT. Mopar guy only now.
Engine: gone
Transmission: gone
Axle/Gears: gone
Re: Founders Performance
just be happy thier is a company like Founder's out there. I wish they were around awhile back when I did my suspension mods. Id have a couple hundred more dollars in my pocket.
Supreme Member
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 4
From: Central Texas
Car: GTA
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Aussie 9-bolt/3.27 posi
Re: Founders Performance
I'm happy with the PRICES. It isn't a "new" company. J&M/hotpart.com simply created a 3rd business name for themselves, Founders, & is selling the exact same parts for half their price. "Gimme $50 or $100 for this & that will tell me which company name decal to put on it."
Supreme Member
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 7,260
Likes: 5
From: Manteca,California. Nor Cal.
Car: SOLD IT. Mopar guy only now.
Engine: gone
Transmission: gone
Axle/Gears: gone
Re: Founders Performance
I'm happy with the PRICES. It isn't a "new" company. J&M/hotpart.com simply created a 3rd business name for themselves, Founders, & is selling the exact same parts for half their price. "Gimme $50 or $100 for this & that will tell me which company name decal to put on it."



