Pic of my eng bay
real nice car what year is that? 91 or 92
real nice and clean engine bay; also, did u get rid of ur a/c or did your car not come with it?
i have a 91 black firebird formula 350 just like that, real nice car, is that the slp dual intake, did your car come with that? or is that a mod? what other mods do you have?
one more question, on your doors where it says formula 350, didnt in 91 and 92 they were only suppose to say formula and then 5.7 efi on the power bulge hood?
real nice and clean engine bay; also, did u get rid of ur a/c or did your car not come with it?
i have a 91 black firebird formula 350 just like that, real nice car, is that the slp dual intake, did your car come with that? or is that a mod? what other mods do you have?
one more question, on your doors where it says formula 350, didnt in 91 and 92 they were only suppose to say formula and then 5.7 efi on the power bulge hood?
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This comment probably won't go over well based on what everyone else had to say but I think the car looks like a hack job. You can see from the picture that the nose doesn't even match the rest of the car. What, was that a Maaco paint job or what. The car looks clean, the eng. compartment looks clean but it is clear it is all hacked up. What is the purpose of the dual air filter/air intake? Yeah, it looks good but does it serve any purpose. What is the ACTUAL year of the car? Don't just pick a year from one of the pieces you put on it either.
MeanV8. Ill take criticism as well as compliments. The car is an 89 Formula 350. I made it look like the 91/92 style because I love that look. Trying to find a 91/92 Firebird w/350 and T-roofs is near impossible so I made my own. The paint on the nose,headlight doors,wing/hatch was repainted(not macco and hard to match) and its a tinge brighter but its as close to the actual paint on the car as I can get without repainting the rest of the car. I rather it be brighter than darker/yellower. The dual air intake system is in fact a huge improvement(two airboxes pulling alot of air from the fender area) from the old factory system(that sucked thru a small inlet hole). Actually the eng bay is pretty well organized along with alot of other things(no other way for me/too meticulous). The dual air inlet system was designed for speed density but I was able to modify it to work with MAF. I dont think it looks or is "hacked up". It certainly isnt your average stock Formula and alot of engineering went into the car. Whatever mods that are done to this car I tried to keep it "stock looking" and tasteful. Like if it belonged there in the first place. The car has to be seen in person to really grasp what Im talking about(sorry if the photos are not the greatest). Thanks for the opinions being positive or negitive. STEVE Z
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Hmm... I for one didn't notice the colour differences. Uh, thanks for pointing that out MV8.
It looks great! The dual air inlet is an interesting idea... It certainly doesn't scream "aftermarket' (although granted, it obviously is). Might I ask where you came across such plumbing?
It looks great! The dual air inlet is an interesting idea... It certainly doesn't scream "aftermarket' (although granted, it obviously is). Might I ask where you came across such plumbing?
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Car: 1987 Camaro Z28 IROC-Z
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Axle/Gears: 3.42:1
Originally posted by MeanV8
This comment probably won't go over well based on what everyone else had to say but I think the car looks like a hack job. You can see from the picture that the nose doesn't even match the rest of the car. What, was that a Maaco paint job or what. The car looks clean, the eng. compartment looks clean but it is clear it is all hacked up. What is the purpose of the dual air filter/air intake? Yeah, it looks good but does it serve any purpose. What is the ACTUAL year of the car? Don't just pick a year from one of the pieces you put on it either.
This comment probably won't go over well based on what everyone else had to say but I think the car looks like a hack job. You can see from the picture that the nose doesn't even match the rest of the car. What, was that a Maaco paint job or what. The car looks clean, the eng. compartment looks clean but it is clear it is all hacked up. What is the purpose of the dual air filter/air intake? Yeah, it looks good but does it serve any purpose. What is the ACTUAL year of the car? Don't just pick a year from one of the pieces you put on it either.
Nice ride BTW!
(The only thing that tipped me off that it was an earlier formula was the rear bumper)
I don't think I am being a tool at all. I do think the car looks good from a distance but even in the poor quaility pictures he has on here you can see the multiple shaded paint job. Now that you pointed out the wing I can see that isn't even original. You say you like the look of the 91/92 but can't find one so you made your own. Is it that you can't find one or that you are to cheap to pay for it. I have seen them everywhere on the internet for sale. But I guess if you can go to Home Depot and get the parts to make your own cheaper that is good. Where did you get the parts for the dual air intake, the plumbing department? I have no problem modifying car but use ACTUAL aftermarket parts, not hardware store parts.
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Originally posted by MeanV8
I don't think I am being a tool at all.
I don't think I am being a tool at all.
Originally posted by MeanV8
Where did you get the parts for the dual air intake, the plumbing department? I have no problem modifying car but use ACTUAL aftermarket parts, not hardware store parts.
Where did you get the parts for the dual air intake, the plumbing department? I have no problem modifying car but use ACTUAL aftermarket parts, not hardware store parts.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...RTNUMBER=21030
Geez, that part looks familiar?
As far as the paint, yes, it does look a little off in some spots. The car still looks good though, and he attempted to get a match on it. That is far more than I can say for some of these cars I have seen around that just stick various parts on a nasty car in a stunning array of multicolor. Dare I ask what your car looks like?
Actually you can ask what my car looks like. I don't have a digital camera or I would post pics. I have a MINT TTA. It has 17,348 miles at this time. That is why I was able to spot this kids car out so easliy, I know what an 89 is supposed to look like. I just get aggravated when I see people piecing together cars because when they are on the road it makes the rest of ours less valuable. I have read some of SLZ's other posts and I guess that is why I considered his car hacked up. If you search his name you will see his other posts too. He fashioned some turn signal lens. He has problems with his brakes and suspension. He has different tail lights on the car. Come on. All I know is when I drive down the street and see a Mustang that has been poorly modified or hacked I think to myself, "what a piece of crap". I don't want the same thing to happen to us. It is people like SLZ that will make that happen though.
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SLZ, your car gets my vote! You have a clean car that you had added some very tasteful and effective modifications. I respect anyone who works hard to get their car to look and perform the way THEY want it to. People put SS badges on SS cars all the time and I have seen my fair share of IROC and GTA clones. As long as your car has the performance to match its looks then I think you are doing good. My car is a real IROC but the hood and fenders are a diff shade of white due to age and a repaint from a fender bender. Who cares about a little non-matching paint, atleast it has paint! I would take almost any shade of white right now on my roof since it is peeling faster than a banana in a monkey's hand. I work full time and go to college full time and I have done everything on it myself on my car. I fully understand wanting a paticular car with a certain combo of options is very hard to come by, when you find a really clean car at a good deal that you can turn into the car YOU really want, go for it! But like I said, make sure you have the drivetrain and performance to back it up. Just dont put IROC wheels and badges on a 6cyl!
A picture of my non-matching paint IROC
A picture of my non-matching paint IROC
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My "Hacked Up" car
I suppose my car is hacked up too because I have Weld Wheels on it.
If you are worried about other 3rd generation cars that aren't perfect because it's defacing the value of your car, you should of bought a Ferrari or something because GM made a whole lot of these cars.
I'd personally rather be the guy that pulls up in that "Hacked Up" car at a light and shows you his "Hacked Up" tail lights.
If you are worried about other 3rd generation cars that aren't perfect because it's defacing the value of your car, you should of bought a Ferrari or something because GM made a whole lot of these cars.
I'd personally rather be the guy that pulls up in that "Hacked Up" car at a light and shows you his "Hacked Up" tail lights.
No your car doesn't look hacked because it had different wheels on it. It looks like a 6 cyl. Firebird with Fancy wheels. Your car looks good. I am not saying all cars are hacked up if they have been modified. But, SLZ's car looks hacked. It is a poor quality pic and you can still see the different shade of paint. Imagine how bad it looks close up. He has other threads and they are all about fabricating stuff to fit his car. Why not buy the aftermarket things available instead of making it the Home Depot special.
You must not know much about the TTA though. If you think your going to be the car showing me your tailights your crazy. The only way I would see your taillights is if we races on a round track and I was about to lap you.
You must not know much about the TTA though. If you think your going to be the car showing me your tailights your crazy. The only way I would see your taillights is if we races on a round track and I was about to lap you.
Originally posted by MeanV8
It is a poor quality pic and you can still see the different shade of paint.
It is a poor quality pic and you can still see the different shade of paint.
Personally I dont like the look of the 91-92 nose but whatever tickles your fancy. Nice car otherwise though. My bird is the same way with the paint, they couldnt match the yellow exactly and i couldnt afford a whole new paint job.
As a matter of fact I do have signifcant mods to my car. Not that it matters I would be you stock unless you have something else done to your car that isn't listed. What, you think adding Nitrous makes that big a difference? By adding Nitrous the only thing you are now able to do that you weren't before is see my car as i cross the finish line.
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Car: 87 Trans Am
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Troll alert is right!!
I saw SLZ's car at the Summer Nationals last saturday. The Bird looks even better in person. Very nicely done.

I guess my cars hacked up too with a Ram Air hood and 91-92 Tails and Wing.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=115814
I saw SLZ's car at the Summer Nationals last saturday. The Bird looks even better in person. Very nicely done.
I guess my cars hacked up too with a Ram Air hood and 91-92 Tails and Wing.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=115814
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I don't think I am a troll. I am just trying to keep up the standards of the cars we love. It is that simple. GTAlover just decided to start talking about beating my car so clearly I had to defend it. I just voiced my opinions about SLZ's car. Simple as that. Sorry if it wasn't what everyone wanted to hear. Maybe his car is better looking in person. From what he displays on this internet for everyone to see and judge it looks like crap with the 2 tone white. Maybe my standards are just higher than the rest of you. Obviously, I am clearly driving a better, faster, and more valuable car.
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Originally posted by MeanV8
Obviously, I am clearly driving a better, faster, and more valuable car.
Obviously, I am clearly driving a better, faster, and more valuable car.
p.s. I guess my car is hacked up with Formula 350 Door panels
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not everybody is stuffed with enuff cash to go out and buy all those expensive parts off of slp and summit ect,ect. some people where not born into rich famliys where dady buys you every thing that you have always wanted or with enuff luck to have won the lottory. so if you just happen to not have this luck and really want to get a paint job and can't afford to get the hole car pianted, THEN SO WHAT. would you really perfer hem to drive his car around with five deffrent colors of paint untill he has enuff money saved up to paint the hole car or just get what ever needs painting, painted asap?
meanv8.. you are a troll
meanv8.. you are a troll
Thanks for all the compliments. Your cars look great as well. MeanV8 has his opinions although he is very off about the "hacking" theory on my car. He sounds just like someone I know that has opinions just like that, that would classify as troll like. Nothing but a troublemaker. Cheap? Home Depot special? Come on down to Worcester and Ill show you what I got. Im proud of what Ive accomplished(its all part of engineering). I have a feeling you know where I am too. By the way, 90-92 Firebirds w/350 didnt come w/t-tops from the factory(handful of 92 Formulas sneaked thru though). So they are nearly nonexistant. You cant shake my tree. By the way, since you have a TTA(love those cars as well) and even the simple things start breaking on it(GM discontinued alot on those cars now unfortunetly), you will have to modify your own things to make it work as well(if you have the inginuity and not afraid to get dirty in the work). Or have someone else do it and pay big $$(sometimes its nessesary). Ill try my own way first. STEVE Z
Originally posted by MeanV8
... He has other threads and they are all about fabricating stuff to fit his car. Why not buy the aftermarket things available instead of making it the Home Depot special...
... He has other threads and they are all about fabricating stuff to fit his car. Why not buy the aftermarket things available instead of making it the Home Depot special...
That's sarcasm in case you can't tell.
I can see a color difference, I can also see a color difference on just about every other car with plastic bumper covers out there. Anyway, this thread was about his engince compartment, not the color of his bumber cover.
You say you like the look of the 91/92 but can't find one so you made your own. Is it that you can't find one or that you are to cheap to pay for it.
Sorry, some of us are not as rich as you MeanV8.
I had to buy a $500 car to start with. With my house payment,
car payment, insurance payment, pool supplies, and all the other
things that go along with being on your own. I guess when I get
done with my car, it will be "hacked up" as well. Even though my
plans are to keep it as stock as possible.

Sometimes people on message board surprise me. SLZ, I loved
your fabricated turn signals, and I love your car. I would gladly
trade you anytime you like.
~castrol
quote: Rich kid alert.
Sorry, some of us are not as rich as you MeanV8.
"Rich" is a word that sounds very familiar for this guy I know of that likes to start crap but then hides when confronted. Hmmm, my suspicions are strong with this one. Happy Modding and Have Fun. STEVE Z
Sorry, some of us are not as rich as you MeanV8.
"Rich" is a word that sounds very familiar for this guy I know of that likes to start crap but then hides when confronted. Hmmm, my suspicions are strong with this one. Happy Modding and Have Fun. STEVE Z
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slz what did you do whit your battery? do you have any pics of it?
oh and by the way nice car
oh and by the way nice car
The battery was relocated to the right side of the well area. This way I can still retain the spare tire area for a spare. Its in its own battery box with a kill switch I mounted on the box itself. Looks great. I have a pic but I need to upload it. The negative goes right to the chassis and the positive goes to the starter. The positive cable and the alternator lead that went to the old batt area goes to a mod block I installed for the connection right behind the steering box(have pic too.) Thanks for the nice words, STEVE Z
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yeah dude if you can post them or e-mail them to me that would be cool
I have been wanting to do that to my car because i am going to change my rs from tbi to tpi and i want ot get a could air intake so i would have to change my battary location to the back some where and i have never sean it doen before so if you can do me the favor, thanks.
I have been wanting to do that to my car because i am going to change my rs from tbi to tpi and i want ot get a could air intake so i would have to change my battary location to the back some where and i have never sean it doen before so if you can do me the favor, thanks.
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hahaha never mind the last post dude i was replying to it when you posted the pic:sillylol:
bye the way thanks
bye the way thanks
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wheres "meanV8's" car, its probably a old chevy truck, i think the car looks good and wouldn't be cutin on someone elses car when all you can say is "its built" whats that mean it has a chrome aircleaner and a jeggs sticker
humm all about a hack job... oh really and a slp intake is all the sudden a hack job.. and i found a nice pic to go along with your tta prolly about the same quality since your tta is not a hack job and oh yea please do not state this again "Obviously, I am clearly driving a better, faster, and more valuable car" or i will be forced in to laughing my *** off again
MeanV8,
I guess my car has a Maaco paint job on it too. I just don't remember reading anywhere that GM subcontracted Maaco to perform factory paint jobs. I might need to look into that further...
Notice my front urethane is different colored too. It's called a different paint process for urethane than for metal. Also, you'll notice slight color differences on both sides of my gas door. This is from the factory with only 10k miles on it!
Idiot!!!!
I guess my car has a Maaco paint job on it too. I just don't remember reading anywhere that GM subcontracted Maaco to perform factory paint jobs. I might need to look into that further...
Notice my front urethane is different colored too. It's called a different paint process for urethane than for metal. Also, you'll notice slight color differences on both sides of my gas door. This is from the factory with only 10k miles on it!
Idiot!!!!
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Details on SLP dual CAI with MAF
ummm, righhttt
Ignoring all of the crap in this thread... SLZ - looking good. I am interested to know more about your mod of the SLP dual CAI kit to work with MAF. Would you please describe what you did and, if possible, post some additional pics of the detail.
Thanks a lot.
-Schultzy
Ignoring all of the crap in this thread... SLZ - looking good. I am interested to know more about your mod of the SLP dual CAI kit to work with MAF. Would you please describe what you did and, if possible, post some additional pics of the detail.
Thanks a lot.
-Schultzy
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I dont know if anyone else noticed, but MeanV8 has a whopping 12 posts. I dont think his opinion has much weight.
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firbird, i love your type r spoiler whier did you get it from? summit?
hahaha j\king :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
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Hmm... MeanV8... Driving a TTA (not a V8). Somebody's bluffing, dontcha think? Someone who can not only afford a TTA but can also afford serious mods can't find a way to get a pic on his computer? And he's jumping all over a nice 'bird just because he knows that it has the wrong front end for the year (notice this "expert" didn't even notice the spoiler at first)? Yeah, real credible lad, better luck next time.
SLZ, beautiful car. Don't let some jealous kid detract from it. I'd still love to hear about that aftermarket airbox though...
SLZ, beautiful car. Don't let some jealous kid detract from it. I'd still love to hear about that aftermarket airbox though...
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