View Poll Results: coil overs or eibachs
coil overs



5
45.45%
eibachs



4
36.36%
chop the springs



0
0%
leave the car as it is



2
18.18%
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OK ALL THIS IS MY 300TH POST...
not as much as the post ***** mark(its ok man no bad things meant) but considering ive been here for a little over 2 months(i think) not that bad..
anyways...
i have a question and something to tell all the camaro guys...
first the question..
this has been asked b4 but nothing really answered me with my searches...
ive lowered my car via heating the springs...now...
i notice i have some minor rubbing..nothing big but it will eventually make my tire/s wear out faster..so what have some of you guys used to "properly" lower you cars.?
i know ground control makes coilovers, and they "say" that you can make it about 6 inches lower..thats all fine and dandy but the price bothers me $1100 canadain..now all you guys with your eibachs...ive never really used them..are they any good...
post your suggestions here...i want about a max of 2 inches from the ground stance...
2nd..i was just told via ?? amanda?? from fx designs (where i got my front skirt) that they will be making a ram air hood for the 82-92 edition of the camaros...(Sorry bird owners) i think that they will be alot cheaper then hawks and the other places...although i DONT know for sure...i know im getting one..just the amount and quality will be the deciding factor!!
(SLADE IF YOU READ THIS...IF I GET IT FROM FX THEN IT WILL BE ABOUT DEC OR SO UNTIL MY HOOD WILL BE FOR SALE)
thanks and sorry for the long lengthy post
iroc2nv
not as much as the post ***** mark(its ok man no bad things meant) but considering ive been here for a little over 2 months(i think) not that bad..
anyways...
i have a question and something to tell all the camaro guys...
first the question..
this has been asked b4 but nothing really answered me with my searches...
ive lowered my car via heating the springs...now...
i notice i have some minor rubbing..nothing big but it will eventually make my tire/s wear out faster..so what have some of you guys used to "properly" lower you cars.?
i know ground control makes coilovers, and they "say" that you can make it about 6 inches lower..thats all fine and dandy but the price bothers me $1100 canadain..now all you guys with your eibachs...ive never really used them..are they any good...
post your suggestions here...i want about a max of 2 inches from the ground stance...
2nd..i was just told via ?? amanda?? from fx designs (where i got my front skirt) that they will be making a ram air hood for the 82-92 edition of the camaros...(Sorry bird owners) i think that they will be alot cheaper then hawks and the other places...although i DONT know for sure...i know im getting one..just the amount and quality will be the deciding factor!!
(SLADE IF YOU READ THIS...IF I GET IT FROM FX THEN IT WILL BE ABOUT DEC OR SO UNTIL MY HOOD WILL BE FOR SALE)
thanks and sorry for the long lengthy post
iroc2nv
Originally posted by Mark A Shields
I'm not a post *****, am I?
I'm not a post *****, am I?
".....i know ground control makes coilovers, and they "say" that you can make it about 6 inches lower."
six inches lower and your car will have it's head lights where your fog lights are now.
but really i have no idea about lowering your car.
i was looking at flyinglows89 and he droped his...
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
I'm not a post *****, am I?
I'm not a post *****, am I?
Are you tryin for the #1 spot or what?
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Nawwww..
Nawwww..
whew! good thign you didn't add the "s" almost had me worried that you were gonna say that big bad word.
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whew! good thign you didn't add the "s" almost had me worried that you were gonna say that big bad word.
whew! good thign you didn't add the "s" almost had me worried that you were gonna say that big bad word.
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heat the springs? what were you thinking? lol i personally would either leave it be or just take maybe half a turn off the spring. if you do cut the spring, only do a 1/4 turn at a time and keep test fitting them all untill you like it. we are lucky, don't need a spring compressor to get the coils off!
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Originally posted by igotslicksNchix
...if you do cut the spring, only do a 1/4 turn at a time and keep test fitting them all untill you like it.
...if you do cut the spring, only do a 1/4 turn at a time and keep test fitting them all untill you like it.
one word GETTO
from what i heard and read that is the wrond thing to do when lowering your car.
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HEY METKISS....
NO POSTWHORING ON MY THREAD MISTER!!!!
KNOCK IT OFF
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NO POSTWHORING ON MY THREAD MISTER!!!!
KNOCK IT OFF
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From: boonton, NJ
Car: 84 camaro Z28
Engine: 434sbc
Transmission: powerglide
Axle/Gears: moser 9" with 411 posi
i just installed the eibach loweing springs. they were just what i was lookin for. it rubs alittle when the steering is at full lock. its not that bad
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is the ride as good as it was before heavy?? cuz my ride almost seems better...cept for tire noise..(rubbing on the inner wheelwell) and the drop is the only thing holding me back on the eibachs..not enough for me...that may change though...it kinda has now that i "hurt" my front skirt
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Car: 84 camaro Z28
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Transmission: powerglide
Axle/Gears: moser 9" with 411 posi
the ride is about the same. i haven't really gotten a chance to drive the car since i dropped it though. here is a pic of the car after i lowered it
will these eibach springs be a step down if you have ws6 suspension? i have a stiff stiff ride but the car handles like a dream. i would like to drop the car a few inches, but i don't want to actually take a step down in handling performace
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Is there really that much of a performance difference when lowering your ride? I'm not sure if its worth all that. I probably will never lower my car.
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Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird, flat black
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In the searching I have done the eibach system would drop my car about 1-2" if I remember right, but what keeps the car from leaning in the turn? I hate body roll. Any thoughts? By the way how much is the eibach system?
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dont come up as a url you post *****
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Originally posted by redbird_400
Is there really that much of a performance difference when lowering your ride? I'm not sure if its worth all that. I probably will never lower my car.
Is there really that much of a performance difference when lowering your ride? I'm not sure if its worth all that. I probably will never lower my car.
Quit that whoring around!! Lets get back to the topix. Anybody have a answer to my question above?
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What keeps the car from leaning in the turn? I hate body roll. Any thoughts?
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will these eibach springs be a step down if you have ws6 suspension? i have a stiff stiff ride but the car handles like a dream
will these eibach springs be a step down if you have ws6 suspension? i have a stiff stiff ride but the car handles like a dream
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as for hurting the performance, i don't think it will hurt the enginges performance. i will improve your handleing because you have a lower center of gravity.
Originally posted by heavy_chevy29
as for hurting the performance, i don't think it will hurt the enginges performance. i will improve your handleing because you have a lower center of gravity.
as for hurting the performance, i don't think it will hurt the enginges performance. i will improve your handleing because you have a lower center of gravity.
in the old days it was common to lower it buy cutting the springs, and shorting the the spring. but that causes problems. some cars came with "progresive-rate" springs, meaning that the first inch or soof compression occurred at a specific rate. after which the springs require a higher pressurs to compress. buy cutting it you are altering this. and affecting your handling and ride.
lowering the car changes the suspention and steering geometry. in the front end a lowered ride hieght results in what is known as "bumpsteer" the difference between the arc swung by the tie rod end and the arc swung buy the steering knuckle. when the veh hits a bump it causes the wheels to to turn inward slightly.
rear suspention is also affected
aftermarket sells kits to correct this buy repositioning the tie rods in the front and an ajustible panhard rod and torque arm in the back to correct the the misalignment.
got that from "motorbooks how to tune 82-92 camaros"
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Is this another reason to laugh at some riceburner who did it the wrong way just cut the springs and put the back on. When you see the tires are leaning inward and bald on the inside. LOL:sillylol:
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Hey
I have been looking at the ground control website and could not find those coil overs.
Could someone post a link to them
Thanks:hail: :hail: :hail:
I have been looking at the ground control website and could not find those coil overs.
Could someone post a link to them
Thanks:hail: :hail: :hail:
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From: pefferlaw ontario
Car: 1987 iroc-z custom
Engine: 355 tuned port
Transmission: 5spd baby, only way to go
Axle/Gears: 3.45
http://www.ground-control.com/index.html
go to the first url of application guide
just scroll down and youll see 82-92 camaro
iroc2nv
go to the first url of application guide
just scroll down and youll see 82-92 camaro
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Transmission: 5spd baby, only way to go
Axle/Gears: 3.45
click on the application guide for coil over kits (first url)
then scroll down until you see chevy...its the first option for chevy
its there i know it is..i just looked
iroc2nv
btw i didnt see the 6" drop on the net i called them and they told me that it "could" be dropped about 6 " so i dunno...ask revlimit..he has them now
then scroll down until you see chevy...its the first option for chevy
its there i know it is..i just looked
iroc2nv
btw i didnt see the 6" drop on the net i called them and they told me that it "could" be dropped about 6 " so i dunno...ask revlimit..he has them now
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From: pefferlaw ontario
Car: 1987 iroc-z custom
Engine: 355 tuned port
Transmission: 5spd baby, only way to go
Axle/Gears: 3.45
im in canada
price difference
459 usd-1100can$
sucks to be canadian "eh"
iroc2nv
price difference
459 usd-1100can$
sucks to be canadian "eh"
iroc2nv



screw that! Man I would get a nice set of heads for that price.