hey, has anyone here know anything at all about Earl Scheib paint shops? there supposed to be all over the place, is it like another maaco? or better yet does anyone have experience with these guys, pics would be great! anyway to the details...it's $500 for "our very best paint job" and i found a coupon for $300 dollars off....'6 year limited warranty, 100% acrylic-urethane euro-paint, integrated clear coat, pre sanding and base coat, infrared quartz finish dryer. <---anything wrong with any of that stuff? any information would absolutly kick a$$ right now, because i need paint bad and i don't even have a grand to spare on it....i'm poor lol anybody?!?!?!! thanks a lot guys, you're always more than helpful 
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I had some experiance with Earl sh$t paint shops years ago, I put my car in to have the "ambassador" paint job done. they did it alright, they painted everything on the car that would hold still, right down to the license plates. they even managed to get overspray on the inside of the car, go figure. it took quite a while to get that staightened out. BE CAREFULL.
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Run, run, run as fast as you can from Earl Scheib!!! Don't let the temptation of a cheap paint job tempt you!!! They make Maaco look like Rembrandt!!! 
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1991Z28 is right, Earl Schieb will make Maaco seem Heavenly.
My car was painted st Earl Schieb two years ago, right before we bought it. They used a one year warranty paint job, and it started peeling day after that one year was up.
It was actually peeling before that - they didnt sand anything down and they didn't do any prep work so the paint was just falling off.
You know the sad part....I saw a 78 Trans AM in the same shop where my car was done....I highly doubt that it will look good for long.
Save up about 1,000 - 1,400 and go to a local shop. You'll be happier, in the long run, if you do.
My car was painted st Earl Schieb two years ago, right before we bought it. They used a one year warranty paint job, and it started peeling day after that one year was up.
It was actually peeling before that - they didnt sand anything down and they didn't do any prep work so the paint was just falling off.
You know the sad part....I saw a 78 Trans AM in the same shop where my car was done....I highly doubt that it will look good for long.
Save up about 1,000 - 1,400 and go to a local shop. You'll be happier, in the long run, if you do.
hey thanks guys, i knew it was to good to be true, 200 bucks won't get you much when dealing with a car....thanks cause i will surely stay away from those guys....but i guess i'm still open to any positive feedback from anyone?!?! just out of curiosity. i guess it was the 6 year warranty that made me think it was a good deal, i mean it's gotta last 6 years right? or else they'd hav to fix it anyway....but i'd rather get it done right the first time and not have them screw anything else up on the car....again thanks alot positive opinions still welcome......if not, bad mouth Earl Scheib at will!! Thanks
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Frankly, there is no bright side to an Earl Scheib paint job. The misery during and after are not worth the savings. A warranty means nothing unless they can repair the problem. Honestly, anticipation of a problem is not something that you want to contemplate.
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my dad got his monza painted by earl scheib like 10 years ago and the paint still looks good and its been sitting in the az sun forever and on the other hand my mom got her car painted at maaco and they messed it up about three of four times and it's still not right. my opinion there both like gambling you may or may not be a winner. im getting my bird painted buy some guy that paints alot of race cars and street rods thats if i'm still in nebraska by then.
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I'm also pretty happy with my Earl Sch...whatever 
paint.
I had my bird painted two years ago, no clear coats if I remember correctly, and it doesn't show any signs of fading at all,
even though it's been left in the baking sun for days/weeks at a time. Sure, I have a run here and there, and some overspray on weatherstripping, etc.
But for $380 for some body work and their top-of-the-line paint job with a 6 year chip/peel/fade warranty, you can't really complain.
The only place where I'm starting to find problems are all the rubber 'things' (that's a sentence that would make an english teacher proud ).
For instance the TA wrap around wing/spoiler/whatever started to crack and peel, but that's not really their fault. They are known to eventually warp/crack/flex/deteriorate.
The only other place I have noticed that the paint is cracking is the, eh.... the rubber thing between the side mirrors and the car.
In other words, they don't paint rubber/very flexible plastic very well. At least not with their paints....
Ok, enough babbling. Now to the important stuff...
If you do decide to get it painted there, do as much of the body work/prep as you can. Also, remove the gfx and paint them seperatly, if you are going two-tone.
Try to stay with a color that is very close to what you currently have. Inside detailing is not included and honestly I don't know if I'd trust them with that.
(unless you are planning on tearing out the interior that is)
Using a fairly common color will allow you to do that stuff later on when time and money permits and it will also make it easier for you to do touch-ups and whatnot later down the road.
I don't have any nice and shiney pics of my car right now, but I could run out and take a couple sometime this week so you can see for yourself...
paint. I had my bird painted two years ago, no clear coats if I remember correctly, and it doesn't show any signs of fading at all,
even though it's been left in the baking sun for days/weeks at a time. Sure, I have a run here and there, and some overspray on weatherstripping, etc.
But for $380 for some body work and their top-of-the-line paint job with a 6 year chip/peel/fade warranty, you can't really complain.
The only place where I'm starting to find problems are all the rubber 'things' (that's a sentence that would make an english teacher proud
). For instance the TA wrap around wing/spoiler/whatever started to crack and peel, but that's not really their fault. They are known to eventually warp/crack/flex/deteriorate.
The only other place I have noticed that the paint is cracking is the, eh.... the rubber thing between the side mirrors and the car.
In other words, they don't paint rubber/very flexible plastic very well. At least not with their paints....
Ok, enough babbling. Now to the important stuff...
If you do decide to get it painted there, do as much of the body work/prep as you can. Also, remove the gfx and paint them seperatly, if you are going two-tone.
Try to stay with a color that is very close to what you currently have. Inside detailing is not included and honestly I don't know if I'd trust them with that.
(unless you are planning on tearing out the interior that is)
Using a fairly common color will allow you to do that stuff later on when time and money permits and it will also make it easier for you to do touch-ups and whatnot later down the road.
I don't have any nice and shiney pics of my car right now, but I could run out and take a couple sometime this week so you can see for yourself...
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....oh yeah, forgot a couple of things...
If you don't quite know if you can trust them with your car just yet, drop by a couple of times and ask if you can see any of their painted cars (and/or photos)
Actually, you could probably just check out the parking lot and see their newly painted cars. They love to park them so people driving by can see 'em.
Check out the detailing. Look in the wheel well and/or on the tires for overspray. Check the weatherstripping, windsheild, etc...
I agree that if you didn't tell them to remove any bugs from the bumper, they might just paint over them Make sure you mention EVERYTHING that you want them to do. Also make sure that they write EVERYTHING they are going to do down on the invoice/whatever before you sign anything. Don't think for a second that something is obvious and doesn't need mentioning. If it's not there in writing, you never had that conversation! 
Some of these places actually do a decent job (for the money that you are paying) and sometimes you can even find one that still has a painter that's passionate about their work.
But like I probably mentioned before, do the majority of the prep/body work, filling any holes or deep scratches. A paint job is only as good as the prep work. And they probably wont spend too much time on it. Most likley they'll only sand your current paint enough for the new paint to stick....
If you don't quite know if you can trust them with your car just yet, drop by a couple of times and ask if you can see any of their painted cars (and/or photos)
Actually, you could probably just check out the parking lot and see their newly painted cars. They love to park them so people driving by can see 'em.
Check out the detailing. Look in the wheel well and/or on the tires for overspray. Check the weatherstripping, windsheild, etc...
I agree that if you didn't tell them to remove any bugs from the bumper, they might just paint over them
Make sure you mention EVERYTHING that you want them to do. Also make sure that they write EVERYTHING they are going to do down on the invoice/whatever before you sign anything. Don't think for a second that something is obvious and doesn't need mentioning. If it's not there in writing, you never had that conversation! Some of these places actually do a decent job (for the money that you are paying) and sometimes you can even find one that still has a painter that's passionate about their work.
But like I probably mentioned before, do the majority of the prep/body work, filling any holes or deep scratches. A paint job is only as good as the prep work. And they probably wont spend too much time on it. Most likley they'll only sand your current paint enough for the new paint to stick....
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i took my car there like 2-2 1/2 years ago. i got their very best paint job for like $500. well not even 6 months later it was flaking off. not to mention the orange peal look it always had. plus they cant srpay worth a damn.. i mean.. my rims had a pink tint to them cause of the red.. and the even managed to paint my exuast pipes in the back.. and they are tucked behind the rear skirting!!! IMO DO NOT GO THERE!!! TRY SOMEWHERE ELSE!
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While not trying to be a "Nay Sayer," I do not think that a laundry list of quality expectation demands is going to be heard when you are shelling out a paltry $200.00 +/- for a paint job. Truly, you pay for what you get.
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Originally posted by forsete
I'm also pretty happy with my Earl Sch...whatever paint.
I had my bird painted two years ago, no clear coats if I remember correctly, and it doesn't show any signs of fading at all,
even though it's been left in the baking sun for days/weeks at a time. Sure, I have a run here and there, and some overspray on weatherstripping, etc.
But for $380 for some body work and their top-of-the-line paint job with a 6 year chip/peel/fade warranty, you can't really complain.
The only place where I'm starting to find problems are all the rubber 'things' (that's a sentence that would make an english teacher proud ).
For instance the TA wrap around wing/spoiler/whatever started to crack and peel, but that's not really their fault. They are known to eventually warp/crack/flex/deteriorate.
The only other place I have noticed that the paint is cracking is the, eh.... the rubber thing between the side mirrors and the car.
In other words, they don't paint rubber/very flexible plastic very well. At least not with their paints....
Ok, enough babbling. Now to the important stuff...
If you do decide to get it painted there, do as much of the body work/prep as you can. Also, remove the gfx and paint them seperatly, if you are going two-tone.
Try to stay with a color that is very close to what you currently have. Inside detailing is not included and honestly I don't know if I'd trust them with that.
(unless you are planning on tearing out the interior that is)
Using a fairly common color will allow you to do that stuff later on when time and money permits and it will also make it easier for you to do touch-ups and whatnot later down the road.
I don't have any nice and shiney pics of my car right now, but I could run out and take a couple sometime this week so you can see for yourself...
That'd be really cool of you...i'd really like to see some pics! thanks Originally posted by forsete
I'm also pretty happy with my Earl Sch...whatever
paint. I had my bird painted two years ago, no clear coats if I remember correctly, and it doesn't show any signs of fading at all,
even though it's been left in the baking sun for days/weeks at a time. Sure, I have a run here and there, and some overspray on weatherstripping, etc.
But for $380 for some body work and their top-of-the-line paint job with a 6 year chip/peel/fade warranty, you can't really complain.
The only place where I'm starting to find problems are all the rubber 'things' (that's a sentence that would make an english teacher proud
). For instance the TA wrap around wing/spoiler/whatever started to crack and peel, but that's not really their fault. They are known to eventually warp/crack/flex/deteriorate.
The only other place I have noticed that the paint is cracking is the, eh.... the rubber thing between the side mirrors and the car.
In other words, they don't paint rubber/very flexible plastic very well. At least not with their paints....
Ok, enough babbling. Now to the important stuff...
If you do decide to get it painted there, do as much of the body work/prep as you can. Also, remove the gfx and paint them seperatly, if you are going two-tone.
Try to stay with a color that is very close to what you currently have. Inside detailing is not included and honestly I don't know if I'd trust them with that.
(unless you are planning on tearing out the interior that is)
Using a fairly common color will allow you to do that stuff later on when time and money permits and it will also make it easier for you to do touch-ups and whatnot later down the road.
I don't have any nice and shiney pics of my car right now, but I could run out and take a couple sometime this week so you can see for yourself...
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Originally posted by 1991z281le
While not trying to be a "Nay Sayer," I do not think that a laundry list of quality expectation demands is going to be heard when you are shelling out a paltry $200.00 +/- for a paint job. Truly, you pay for what you get.
I agree 100% you do get what you pay for, i'm going to wait and maybe someone will post some pics...but so far i really don't like what i'm hearing about them....i mean worse than maaco? i think i'm going to hold off until i get a grand saved up, i really really really need paint though Originally posted by 1991z281le
While not trying to be a "Nay Sayer," I do not think that a laundry list of quality expectation demands is going to be heard when you are shelling out a paltry $200.00 +/- for a paint job. Truly, you pay for what you get.
and i don't want to go an finance a 4th gen, damn payments! pics please!! or any other recommendation to a better place would be cool too! thanks to all you guys! later Junior Member
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Originally posted by aziroc
i took my car there like 2-2 1/2 years ago. i got their very best paint job for like $500. well not even 6 months later it was flaking off. not to mention the orange peal look it always had. plus they cant srpay worth a damn.. i mean.. my rims had a pink tint to them cause of the red.. and the even managed to paint my exuast pipes in the back.. and they are tucked behind the rear skirting!!! IMO DO NOT GO THERE!!! TRY SOMEWHERE ELSE!
Well.... I guess that's why I suggested that he goes down there several times to see their work. Not trying to be an @$$ or anything. Originally posted by aziroc
i took my car there like 2-2 1/2 years ago. i got their very best paint job for like $500. well not even 6 months later it was flaking off. not to mention the orange peal look it always had. plus they cant srpay worth a damn.. i mean.. my rims had a pink tint to them cause of the red.. and the even managed to paint my exuast pipes in the back.. and they are tucked behind the rear skirting!!! IMO DO NOT GO THERE!!! TRY SOMEWHERE ELSE!
But they all are different. Just because they carry the same name doesn't necessarily mean that they all suck and should have their feet put in wet cement and be thrown off a bridge. (Well, not all of them at least) You CAN actually find one that is good. I did (kind of)
Just go to the place enough times (4+ times) so that you can see the overall, average quality of their work. Obviously you won't see all the crappy looking cars, but you'll be able to see if they consistently over spray on tires, lights, glass, tailpipes, etc...Quote:
Originally posted by 1991z281le
While not trying to be a "Nay Sayer," I do not think that a laundry list of quality expectation demands is going to be heard when you are shelling out a paltry $200.00 +/- for a paint job. Truly, you pay for what you get.
Oh believe me! You have to, and it works! By mentioning EVERYTHING and telling them what you want, are expecting, what you DON'T want, etc... They'll listen. And if they don't and screw something up, you don't have to take the car back until they get it right (if you have it in writing). It works. That way you are the one who's doing the screwing over, not the other way around like it usually is... Originally posted by 1991z281le
While not trying to be a "Nay Sayer," I do not think that a laundry list of quality expectation demands is going to be heard when you are shelling out a paltry $200.00 +/- for a paint job. Truly, you pay for what you get.
I'm not trying to say that he'll get a show room finish. But if he's a high school or college student, doesn't have a lot of money to spend, but doesn't want the car to look like total #$@*$#^) trash, this paint job is gonna be fine. Like I said before, if you do the prep yourself and remove everything that you can, there is no way that they CAN screw up... eh well, if you find a decent place that is....
All this info pretty much applies to any cheap-@ss place. I'm not trying to get business for these guys or anything. Just trying to help out. If you don't mind waiting and have already have a decent chunck of change, then yes... go to a pro! Obviously it will look 100 times better. But if you'd like to get something fairly soon and you plan on getting a new paintjob in about 5 years, then go with Earl/Maaco/whatever...
Oh, I'll try to take some pics on Wed/Thu. I *could* take some today, but I haven't washed or waxed her in awhile. Not the best selling point...
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Just give a 5 year old a couple cans of Krylon and let him have it. He couldn't possibly do any worse than Earl Scheib and you'll save 100's.
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Originally posted by Black84Z28
Just give a 5 year old a couple cans of Krylon and let him have it. He couldn't possibly do any worse than Earl Scheib and you'll save 100's.
Originally posted by Black84Z28
Just give a 5 year old a couple cans of Krylon and let him have it. He couldn't possibly do any worse than Earl Scheib and you'll save 100's.
It's funny you should mention that... I did some body work over the weekend and ended up going that route.... And you're right. I was pretty close to matching the paint! :sillylol: