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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Amythyst
Ok i'm lost, what is PITA?
Pennies in the ashtray duh!
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

my swapped in 9 bolts makes a strange noise at 75 mph
my cupholder broke
i may need a new seatbelt buckle
can hear air rushing somewhere around my window

other than that i would never sell this car. i will get it back to its prime
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Can't stand that it wasn't built to accomodate a big man. (I'm 6'4 and 250). Seat relocation on the way
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by 87ohcamaro
Can't stand that it wasn't built to accomodate a big man. (I'm 6'4 and 250). Seat relocation on the way
I'm 6'3 and I don't have too many issues with height, I've also got t tops though, a hardtop is really uncomfortable for me, I think I sit in a weird way too but it works for me lol
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

I hate all the rattles my camaro makes, it's kind of emberassing lol. & changing the spark plugs is a pain in the ***
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by BluFBdy
I'm 6'3 and I don't have too many issues with height, I've also got t tops though, a hardtop is really uncomfortable for me, I think I sit in a weird way too but it works for me lol
So in other words, you barely fit too lol
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

So i have a 1989 firebird, and it does not run, has no interior what so ever, is rusted all around, has all spare rims, needs a new motor, and has no exhaust. But i still love it because i love the look of the body, no other car has such a sick *** body. My car is not on the road yet, but when i get my license, it should be fixed by then. But how about solving these issues? The heavy doors, do they make new doors for 3rd gens that are lighter? And the center consol with no cup holders, can that be modified and if so how? Does anyone know of anyway you can make the 3rd gens lighter by replacing specific parts? I dont know how many new parts they make that would help with weight, but i know the rear spoiler is a lot lighter than the rubber ones. other than that i cant think of any parts that can be replaced with lighter ones.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by punkmaster98
my swapped in 9 bolts makes a strange noise at 75 mph
my cupholder broke
i may need a new seatbelt buckle
can hear air rushing somewhere around my window

other than that i would never sell this car. i will get it back to its prime
Was I the only one who didn't get cupholders?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by CadeFirebird
So i have a 1989 firebird, and it does not run, has no interior what so ever, is rusted all around, has all spare rims, needs a new motor, and has no exhaust. But i still love it because i love the look of the body, no other car has such a sick *** body. My car is not on the road yet, but when i get my license, it should be fixed by then. But how about solving these issues? The heavy doors, do they make new doors for 3rd gens that are lighter? And the center consol with no cup holders, can that be modified and if so how? Does anyone know of anyway you can make the 3rd gens lighter by replacing specific parts? I dont know how many new parts they make that would help with weight, but i know the rear spoiler is a lot lighter than the rubber ones. other than that i cant think of any parts that can be replaced with lighter ones.
cut out the crash bars in the doors, and they get like 15 lbs lighter, a fiberglass hood and fenders are lighter but its as little as akes no difference, if you want a console with cupholders 4th gen camaro/trans am consoles have them and are a fairly easy swap, do a search its all been done
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

The only thing I didn't like about the car was the 305. Swapped it out this winter for an LSX 6 speed.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by POP6482
The only thing I didn't like about the car was the 305. Swapped it out this winter for an LSX 6 speed.
What do you have against the 305? They are a pretty good motor.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Nothing personal about the motor...It did run strong for what it is.....just looking for more hp. Out of all my friends and family, especially my dad and brother, my car was always the slowest.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

The problem with them is that they wore made during the EPA's reign of terror on the auto industry but they can be great motors if you just do a little modding. To be honest when I found out my Camaro had an 350 and not the stock LG4 305, I was pretty disappointed.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

It is definitly a good motor. I beat the hell out of it since I bought it back in 2001. Ran a best 14.8 at the track and that was with just an magnaflow exhaust. I had a blast driving it around, just needed to upgrade.
My 305 is actually in my friends 80's pick up truck right now. He knew it ran strong and wanted it once he heard I was yanking it out.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Thats pretty awesome
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

oh yeah, another thing I hate about these cars is that EVERYONE calls them IROC's even when they are not. grrrrrrr!
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

1. I'm not a big fan of the open diff (I get the "one wheel wonder" joke all the time).

2. Temp gets up there with the a/c running when I'm stuck in traffic.

3. Last 2 plugs on the passanger side are a PITA.

Besides those 3, car rocks!!! Overall love the car, NO car is perfect...
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Dakota W.
Was I the only one who didn't get cupholders?
I was wondering about everyone complaining they dont have cupholders lol. my cupholders are on the lower part of my door. I thought all cars had tht. i guess not lol.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 01:35 AM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Firebird models = cupholders
Camaro models = no cupholders
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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^ I ain't got no cupholders
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

I just find it funny that our cars were made to be modern but they don't have cupholders.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

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^ I ain't got no cupholders
My apologies for my inaccurate description. I know that some Firebird came with cup holders, I thought they all did. I know they were attached to the door panels. If your car didn't come with them it may be as easy as switching out the panels. No Camaro had cup holders stock in any location.


Originally Posted by Dakota W.
I just find it funny that our cars were made to be modern but they don't have cupholders.
Could you please explain how you determined that "our cars were made to be modern"? Its my experience that our cars were made to be sporty, fast, sexy, and an experience just to own one. Modern, even in 1990, would not be the word I would pick to describe my car.

Also yee-haw! Mother fudger. My driving is so good I got 13mpg on my last fill-up (of 91 octane 100% gas).
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

^ there is room to drill a hole for a cup holder in the rear side pannels if you had something for a linner, a larger plastic cup with a lip. Hmmm I have a new project
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Krik
Firebird models = cupholders
Camaro models = no cupholders
Firebirds are for yuppies! We don't need no stinking cup holders! Kidding guys..
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Damn squeaking front springs. Sounds horrible. Pretty sure it has to do with the Spohn A arms though. Didn't have the problem when I had the original control arms and springs
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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fancy polly bushing squeak if not lubbed up before install.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Dakota W.
I just find it funny that our cars were made to be modern but they don't have cupholders.
Cupholders weren't standard on cars until the mid 90's.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by 3318RS
1. I'm not a big fan of the open diff (I get the "one wheel wonder" joke all the time).

3. Last 2 plugs on the passanger side are a PITA.

1. You need to upgrade to the Posi that came factory on my car.

3. Ditto, I hate anything to do with the passenger side because it seems they tried to stuff everything on that side.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

[/quote]Could you please explain how you determined that "our cars were made to be modern"? Its my experience that our cars were made to be sporty, fast, sexy, and an experience just to own one. Modern, even in 1990, would not be the word I would pick to describe my car.

Also yee-haw! Mother fudger. My driving is so good I got 13mpg on my last fill-up (of 91 octane 100% gas).[/quote]

Our cars have loads of plastic, fancy electronics, fuel injection, and a few other things that were made to be more advanced for the time they were built.

Ha! I got 14.8 when I filled up earlier today!
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Also yee-haw! Mother fudger. My driving is so good I got 13mpg on my last fill-up (of 91 octane 100% gas).[/quote]

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Ha! I got 14.8 when I filled up earlier today![/QUOTE]

you guys are doing something wrong, my modded 350 is getting 18mpg on the highway! Carbed! hehe
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Ozz1967
Also yee-haw! Mother fudger. My driving is so good I got 13mpg on my last fill-up (of 91 octane 100% gas).
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Ha! I got 14.8 when I filled up earlier today![/quote]

you guys are doing something wrong, my modded 350 is getting 18mpg on the highway! Carbed! hehe[/quote]

All city driving and a 305 + lead foot = bad mpgs, I get about 28 hwy due to my 3.08's in the rear, need to put int 3.42's for city driving though...
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

gettin 23MPG mix of city n highway, though best part is the small tank, nice when you can put in $20 and get half a tank of gas

hate my wagon tank wise, big 22gal, but takes 30gals to get half a tank to read
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Gumby
fancy polly bushing squeak if not lubbed up before install.
Yea, so I've heard. I lubed up all the bushings. Sounds like squeaking metal rubbing against the metal anytime I hit a speed bump or anything like that.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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My 16gal tank runs out in about 2 weeks of going back n forth to school
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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winter time i was getting only 14mpg but now tht it is warming up im getting 23
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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last owners cut a hole in my lu5 hood...
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and i hear 700r4s being called a slush box. the th200...way worse lol
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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[and i hear 700r4s being called a slush box. the th200...way worse lol[/quote]


LOL, aint that the truth. At least you can build up a th700r4.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

I don't like that the front seats, when fully upright, lean back so much in thirdgens. I've owned 4, and they were all like this. I'm tall, but I'm not heavy, so I haven't broken down the seatback lol; the driver's seat still matches the passenger seat. They just lean back too far.

I'd guess they were designed like this to maximize headroom because the cars are so low and flat. But at 6'-1", I don't have any headroom issues, so I'd love to figure out a way to make the seats more upright. Outside of shimming the rear mounting points, I'm open to suggestions... So if anyone who might read this has any thoughts, please share.
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
I don't like that the front seats, when fully upright, lean back so much in thirdgens. I've owned 4, and they were all like this. I'm tall, but I'm not heavy, so I haven't broken down the seatback lol; the driver's seat still matches the passenger seat. They just lean back too far.

I'd guess they were designed like this to maximize headroom because the cars are so low and flat. But at 6'-1", I don't have any headroom issues, so I'd love to figure out a way to make the seats more upright. Outside of shimming the rear mounting points, I'm open to suggestions... So if anyone who might read this has any thoughts, please share.
Get new seats lol
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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i've found in mine that if you pull the lever to lean it back and put it all the way up, then let go and let it come back it will sit up a little further then before
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by LAFireboyd
I don't like that the front seats, when fully upright, lean back so much in thirdgens. I've owned 4, and they were all like this. I'm tall, but I'm not heavy, so I haven't broken down the seatback lol; the driver's seat still matches the passenger seat. They just lean back too far.

I'd guess they were designed like this to maximize headroom because the cars are so low and flat. But at 6'-1", I don't have any headroom issues, so I'd love to figure out a way to make the seats more upright. Outside of shimming the rear mounting points, I'm open to suggestions... So if anyone who might read this has any thoughts, please share.
you would hate my firebird then, the driver seat is messed right up, it sits extremely far back so you might aswell be sleeping while you drive, worst part is its power so its going to be fun finding a replacement, my camaro seats were much better then my firechicken seats
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Things I hate about my thirdgen?

The drivers seat that doesn't recline up all the way
The saging doors
The original retarded owner who broke almost every plastic panel and spray painted the interior black when it was tan....
the power mirror switch that refuses to work
the power locks that i have to press a million times to open the doors yet they sit won't unlock, the fact my truck lock cylinder is broken off, its leaking oil.....

Other than that I love my baby.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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Car: 1992 z28 Purple Haze
Engine: 5.7L Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 both spinning
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

I also hate that my drivers seat headrest WILL NOT stay up. It's fine until I start down the road, then it slowly drops back down.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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From: Aloha, Oregon
Car: 1991 Christine Z28
Engine: RV Cam and Intake 350 SBC
Transmission: 5speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 ls Posi
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by 87ohcamaro
Can't stand that it wasn't built to accomodate a big man. (I'm 6'4 and 250). Seat relocation on the way
I drove an 89 RS and my head hit the roof and I'm only 6'1" but in my 91 I have at least 3" of head room. I think the older models were shorter.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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Car: 1984 T/A
Engine: LQ4
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Ford 8.8 4.10 gears
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Dakota W.
I drove an 89 RS and my head hit the roof and I'm only 6'1" but in my 91 I have at least 3" of head room. I think the older models were shorter.
I honestly believe that lol. this kid at my skool has a bird also and it looks smaller compared to my 92 lol.

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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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From: Caracas - Venezuela
Car: 1992 Camaro RS - medium quasar blue
Engine: 5.0 l. 305 cid. TBI L03 VIN E
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 bolts 28 splines 7.625" 3.23
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

I donīt like from my L03:

The flex in the fbody
The rear drum brakes
The difficulty to change the fuel pump
Not having select track controlled by a switch from dash
The cluster design
The iron heads and intake manifold.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Car: 1989 Trans am GTA
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: t56 6 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

Originally Posted by Andy Fanshawe
And the bit you want to remove is held on by every other bit. And that bit is held on by another bit, and so is that one. To remove a bit of the trim at the back, you end up starting at the front.
Andy.
THIS. I suffered a great amount from this when redoing my old firebird interior.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

i hate the electrical when i try to honk my or or turn my lights on nothing will work or that wicked rattling im getting

89 iroc 5.7
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Old May 26, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

didnt know sports car had to have cup holders ?????
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Old May 27, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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Car: 1984 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: What do you not like about your thirdgen?

One thing I don't like is how my spoiler took flight today, I was driving around town and it was on my car then we parked at the beach and then it was gone, I just hope it didn't hit anyone, One thing I do like is how I almost beat a highly modded supra with the power of a truck 350 motor
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