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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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My Cold-air Intake Idea! What Do U Think?

sorry my million dollar idea is no longer available for public view :lala:

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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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What are you, retarded? Seriously.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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Put your first drawing back up. It's even better.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:10 AM
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The stock TPI "horseshoe" breaths cold air from outside the engine bay. It uses 2 filters that when combined provide enough airflow for quite a bit of power. The horseshoe itself isn't a restriction until you hit 300hp+. The filters that come with those E-bay import kits are worthless. That right angle intake entry is also pretty lame. Just paint the "horseshoe" blue, red, or silver and call it a day.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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anybody else got any input other than this clown
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Acceld Z
What are you, retarded? Seriously.
Heh, didn't want to say it, but that was my first thought when I saw his design.

Guess I don't understand the idea of having 3 filters on your car. Nor do I understand why it's on the Appearance board.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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if i had a camaro again i would just gut the stock air box area and use high flow filters.

that's pretty close to a ram air effect..
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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sorry there easy speed for the flame wars.....man some people ya know? if you can do it that sounds like a cool idea. more air, more horsepower. Just careful on the way you duct it cause when a friend of mine did his on his camaro the wind from under it push the duct work onto his serp belt which cut the hell outa it. let me know how you plan out....curious to see how it looks.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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What about the MAF sensor?
i don't have a maf sensor lol
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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On a purely asthetic basis, that idea is ugly. The stock Camaro setup looks much better. I don't see the point in an extra intake in addition the stock one. I heard of some Camaro owners gutting out the bottom of thier air box to get a bit more air in.


With that design, you are only taking up more space in the engine bay, besides, weren't you thinking about a supercharger anyways?

If it were possible, I would go with the Camaro style intake for my Firebird.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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ya I agree with Acceld Z. what the $%^& were you thinking when you woke up today try putting an airfoil and a set of heders on and maby some slp runners or just leave a good thing ALONE
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Jesus...don't mind the flames, guys, it's only Canadians being our nice, polite selves...yeah, these guys aren't fans of each other on the Ontario Board. Who knew? Either way, Easy, I think there's been better, less complex ideas that you could use...can't hurt to try, I'd imagine.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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Just cut the baffels out of the stock snorkel and use K&Ns. And if you must attach dryer hose for that ram-air effect.
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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on another note, i'm on parole, woohoo
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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*off parole...
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Its certainly a different idea. I'll go with the 'more is better' idea on this one. Who knows it might make a difference. I plan to make my own cold air intake for my 90 RS, but its going to be very very different from what anyone has done before
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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Take a good knife, cut out the lower boxes... get a bit creative with the fog light box rears and voila true RAM air...

i already showed you how to do it, its not that difficult and the changes made will not reflect on the exterior at all, keeping that engine bay pretty... unless you really want to !@#!@# up and go for a fugly bay area lol
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Slade1
Take a good knife, cut out the lower boxes... get a bit creative with the fog light box rears and voila true RAM air...

i already showed you how to do it, its not that difficult and the changes made will not reflect on the exterior at all, keeping that engine bay pretty... unless you really want to !@#!@# up and go for a fugly bay area lol

I still agree too. More may be better, but in this case it is just unneccesary.
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 01:58 AM
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looks like something straight out of the "D".
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Azure
Jesus...don't mind the flames, guys, it's only Canadians being our nice, polite selves...yeah, these guys aren't fans of each other on the Ontario Board. Who knew? Either way, Easy, I think there's been better, less complex ideas that you could use...can't hurt to try, I'd imagine.
Azure, I think this upsets you more than Easy I'm just messing with him and he knows it.
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Whats to prevent the air coming from the horse shoe to go out the cone filter. It could happen.
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Azure, I think this upsets you more than Easy I'm just messing with him and he knows it.
don't make me beat you up little man haha

i'm gonna jump u at the next ontario meet
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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don't make me beat you up little man haha

i'm gonna jump u at the next ontario meet
THATS A THREAT!!!!! THATS A THREAT!!!!! BAN HIM BAN HIM BAN HIM!!!!

Bring it, kitten. I was bigger than you in the 5th grade

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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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THATS A THEAT, THATS A THREAT!!!!! BAN HIM BAN HIM BAN HIM!!!!

Bring it, kitten.
ahahaha you're jokes
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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Good idea Easy... you should do it...
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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Get a large air intake tube like mine,


That pipe is 4" in diameter, looks small in the picture though.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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stiffler you dumbass you just had to bring the post back from the dead.

remind me to run you over next meet. :lala:
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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I heard that cold air intakes can get water in your engine since it's near the bottom, with nothing to protect it from the rain or moisture on the streets, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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I have my fog light boxes converted into ram air for my car... I drove it all winter and had no problems.

The only problem I noticed was when I first started using it. I had on some square filters and they got water logged when it rained.

this is a good reason not to follow too close to other cars.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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What are you, retarded? Seriously.
my thoughts exactly. That intake design is more humorous than functional.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by Zepher
Get a large air intake tube like mine,


That pipe is 4" in diameter, looks small in the picture though.
I want one!! Where did you get that Zepher. I'll take one of those and send me that Joy chickei pooh too:hail:


As for that getup.. Alex! Don't hack your car up ..please! That is not the way to do it man.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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I want one!! Where did you get that Zepher. I'll take one of those and send me that Joy chickei pooh too:hail:


As for that getup.. Alex! Don't hack your car up ..please! That is not the way to do it man.
That is a tube from a Semi truck. I have no idea what part of the truck it's from or what year truck. My friend found it and it happened to be the exact shape for a perfect fit.
I traded him an old rear end I had for the tube.
We cut the battery tray last night for it and it looks like it is going to look really nice. Just need to repaint it, probably going to go with black.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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Well here is my old set up before I switched to the suncoast hood.

No the radiator did not make the incoming air hot...most of the air came in thru the ducts which were routed below the car on either side of the radiators air dam.

No it did not trap heat in the bay either. The car ran cool even in stop and go traffic in the summer.

Also I side the bracket that bolts to the raddiator support on birds, that used to support the upper rad hose and intake box, to hold the accordian hose and to keep it out of the belt. The cone filter was held to the lower sway bar via some large hose clamps. The ducting was built around the filter and held in place via hose clamps to the sway bar and to the preexisting holes left be the air dam on either side of the radiator. I cut clearance holes in it, again to the side of the rad to not hurt cooling.

The following pics will explain... now a v-8 may not have enough clearance for this, but its an idea that worked quite well. Mass air was used in the center ducting...
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Filter in duct...
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Picture of below in a mirror....
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Laugh if you will, it was a bit bazokaish looking. But it was actually very functional and could take one heck of a beating and still work. See, I hit an armadillo on the way to FL a year ago. No way to avoid him... It actually ripped the filter off...Once we found it the darn thing it was beat up and squished, a semi had picked it up and carried it a few miles...But with some coaxing, we got back to shape and was reattachable. The darn thing got me the rest of the way to FL and back and the engine never coded or ran poorly. The whole system was replaced when I got home, since I had just gotten the Suncoast hood and Ram Air System.

The new system is much pleasing to the eye and is very efficient....
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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At first i didnt see the picture you guys were talking about, but now yes... step away from the crack pipe... that is the 2nd most dumbest idea on this site so far.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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...what's so funny? Looked good to me....
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Oh...wait...maybe you're referring to the original post intake and not Redraif's?
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Nice lt1 zephyr

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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Ok maybe he was refering to the first post.

IMO...Basically when you design a cold air system the simpler the better. Until you reach speeds over 100mph the Ram air system is simply a cold air system. The less twists and turns the smoother the incoming air is. Then the air will move thru the intake much more efficently.

Zepher has a great idea for a system. A smooth pipe with smooth turns. The less turns the better. That smooth pipe keeps the air as undisturbed as possible. Keeps down the turbulance.

Yes, multiple pipes will allow more air in, but it will cause turbulance and could mess up the incoming air to the intake. At sppeds under 100 (aprox) the car sucks more then the air pressure can push thru the system...but at 100+ speeds there could be all kind of turbulance. The whole point adding a cold air system is to elliminate the restrictive stock system that only draws dead or hot air.

Simple is better!
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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if i can reply to easySPEED's original post; why wouldnt you just use the existing design, but get intake tubing about 1/2'' bigger all around. that little extra amount has got to flow some impressive numbers.
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