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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Why all the rims?

I guess I'm the only one who likes the stock rims still . I found a website that sells replica's of the stock rims in the larger sizes, shined up like an aftermarket rim. I think i'll get some 17" ones to replace the 15 inchers on my RS. For some reason all these aftermarket rims just don't match our cars at all in my opinion. I polished my rims and everyone at school thinks I have these awesome aftermarket rims now, even though they're the stockers.

Does anyone else agree these "torque thrust" or the corvette wheels or whatever they may be just look terrible? I mean, the designers chose that style for a reason.

I also have rear window louvers *Gasp* though, and I think they look awesome as well, so maybe i'm just weird.

Here's a picture of my car, before the polished rims. I'm proof that not every 16 year old first time car owner trashes their vehicle. I care for it like it was a child. No mods yet, I had to pay for most of it, so i'm broke.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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I personally love the look of your car, and I also agree that stock rims are the best design for a thirdgen, but I like those torque thrust rims, and some corvette rims look quite cool too, anyways awsome car
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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I think your alone on that one, I like the stock rims on my 88 iroc, but theres always bigger and better looking rims that make our cars look even better! oh yeah, nice car man, keep takin care of it!
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Stock wheels, mudflaps AND the rear window louvers........

3 strikes and your out...

Have your own style, if you like the stock wheels keep them on there, your own style is what makes your thirdgen yours........
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Thanks for the praise guys. And flyinlow, with that r*cer wing on your car you struck out a long time ago . I'm just messin with ya. You've got a badass car, i'd trade my L03 for your LS1 anyday, i guess that makes up for it.

I'm not a huge fan of the mudflaps either, but then again, I live in washington.... It rains, and rains, and rain and rains. They serve their purpose.

Technically if i got those bigger replicas, I could say i didn't have stock rims . Anyway, it runs well, and i'm 16 year old backyard mechanic with a minimum wage job, I do want I can.

Thanks for hearing me out and not flaming me guys, and don't take me seriously flyinlow, your car rocks.

Another pic.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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I don't think that it's a matter of not liking the stock rims it's a matter of liking aftermarket rims SO much better... it's not that I don't like my 15 by 7 turbo-fin wheels it's just that I like bigger and chrome better than smaller and stock any day. Also, I hate window louvers and mudflaps. And you can add me to the list of 16-yr-olds who pamper their cars... I had to pay for ALL of mine ($6250) and pay insurance and gas and for all the work I do to it... I won't even drive my car to school unless it's an emergency. Oh, and if ppl at ur school think ur stock RS rims are aftermarket... wow... that's sad.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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One more for the heck of it... This is how I got it, it needed waxed.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Daytona T/A
Oh, and if ppl at ur school think ur stock RS rims are aftermarket... wow... that's sad.
Yeah, my school = R ICE!. Or trucks. They don't have a clue about domestics though. The only domestic sports car i've seen at my school, besides mine, is a 2000 v6 mustang. School population somewhere around 2000.

I've actually had a girl say to me "camaro, thats a sedan, right?"

..... What the heck do you say to that?

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by ajbutowicz
\"camaro, thats a sedan, right?"

..... What the heck do you say to that?

ummm shoulda said... you blond? last time I looked your hair was brown. what dye U use?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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I'm a 15 year old...I bus tables on saturdays and school and football during the week...I pamper my car to...after I rebuild my trans and fix the dent in the door , I think im gonna get some 17's but not sure what kind of rim yet, And I didn't pay for the car, but I pay for everything I do to it.. it helps having a job but no where to spend the money, I've got a lot saved up...


Heres my car...
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Iroc..... Two questions.

1. How did you find someone that would insure you.

2. How do you pay the insurance.

The only thing that stopped me from getting a 92 Z28 was the insurance. Most people wouldn't carry the paper, and if they did, it was something like 800 a month (don't remember the exact number, but it was massive).

Keeping in mind i'm a 16 year old male, not a single traffic infraction or law infraction at all.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Under my parents name, since I don't have my license yet, just permit, i'm never in the car without my parents so its under they're name...and parents pay the insurance I pay for any mods I want for my car, and gas whenever I drive it..
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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Hawks was the website with the larger rims.... Can't believe i didn't remember that.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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what color is the car it looks sweet, is it a candy?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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I think your alone on that one
...no sir, I'm with him too!

Stock ***** unite!:hail:
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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i personally love the look of the stock IROC rims. the RS 15's are a little small, but i like having the extra sidewall (personally i think it makes the car look muscular). as soon as i get my car painted and stripped of gold decals, i wanna polish my stock rims and stick em back on there. i had looked high and low for good looking aftermarket rims (i do like the zo6 and the zr1 rims), and i would have to say the best wheel/tire combo is the stocker, but again this is all IMO. at the very least stick with GM designed rims!

BTW i like the bigger IROC aftermarket rims too, i would love to get 17's in that style. i also would love a supercharged LS1 and a t56, a killer sound system, and an 8 point with leather racing seats and 5 point harnesses
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by JeffW
what color is the car it looks sweet, is it a candy?
Its the original color. I can't tell you exactly, because GM likes to reuse its paint codes. The book at my local paint shop said the closest match was a metallic burgundy. They had to mix a special paint for it. The can says "brilliant red poly".

1fastz28 has a 91' Z28 that has the exact same paint. You could try to find him and ask.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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I like the stock wheels to. Mine will probably get replaced with something bigger eventually though.

BTW, where in Washington are you? I'm in T-town.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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Re: Why all the rims?

Originally posted by ajbutowicz
. I found a website that sells replica's of the stock rims in the larger sizes, shined up like an aftermarket rim.
Do you have a link to the site?
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by RSFreak

BTW, where in Washington are you? I'm in T-town.
The capital . Trust me, the paint gets ripped up without those flaps, at least on the rides i've seen.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Re: Re: Why all the rims?

Originally posted by Apeiron
Do you have a link to the site?
Its hawk's thirdgen. They're a thirdgen.org sponsor. Click the orange banner at the top of the thirdgen.org page. They're under the wheels section, it show "stock iroc wheels" near the top, all shiny, in the original sizes, plus 17X8 and 18X8

You can get them chrome as well. Blang Blang! (sorry for that, i couldn't resist)

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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stock is nice and all but it won't get you noticed.........which is a personal preference and also is why every car is unique to their owner.

i loved my stock wheels but i couldn't have large brakes. so when i see small 15-16" wheels i think of a slow car and typically keep walking.

again it's all preference, a stock thirdgen with clean original wheels can look beautiful in it's own right.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z

i loved my stock wheels but i couldn't have large brakes. so when i see small 15-16" wheels i think of a slow car and typically keep walking.
You may want to take a second look at some wheels Jeff, my 13" C4HD's are just as good as most aftermarket brakes. and fit nicely in my 16" rims

I am a semi stock **** as far as the exterior goes. Its what you can't see that I like to change and surprise people with. (Engine not withstanding)

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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I agree with Kandied for the most part on this. We all want our car to stand out from the crowd. However, one contridiction I have noticed is that once people discover something that they like (aftermarket product or otherwise) everyone pretty much migrates towards it. As a result, everybody's car starts looking all the same again. Constratingly, I myself try to envision my version of the perfect thirdgen and a lot of stock parts fit the bill nicely. I am not out to create the best most unique car on the planet--unless you got the money to do so. If I did, I probably would buy a Corvette or 300zx...
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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i loved my stock wheels but i couldn't have large brakes. so when i see small 15-16" wheels i think of a slow car and typically keep walking.
Ah, some of us want you to think that, until we fire up the car...... j/k!

Honestly, I would love to put on some 18's, it's just not in the budget at this time.

I DO think that the factory IROC wheels are some of the best wheels to come from an OEM though. Probably why they are copied so much.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Kandied, I would agree that your car certainly deserves all the attention it gets, but 87David has a point, everyone migrates towards ONE idea. How many cars here all stock appearing, except for larger rims? LOTS, and it's not just here, just drive around any town.

I can't tell you how often my car gets attention, either at a show, or at the grocery store, and 9 out of 10 times, people comment on how impressive the car looks without huge rims and tires.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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I have 15 inch stock rims too. I would like 16 inch iroc rims single line style but I heard it would throw my speedo off. Heres a pic.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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it's all preference just as i said.....personally there isn't another car i'd rather have beyond a few imports that reach 6 figures so i build my thirdgen exactly how i like it.

stock is nice, modified is really nice....to me.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I love the stock rims and have them still on, but theres always bigger and better like i said...I'm thinking about gettin some 17" polished IROCS after a while...

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z
it's all preference just as i said.....personally there isn't another car i'd rather have beyond a few imports that reach 6 figures so i build my thirdgen exactly how i like it.

stock is nice, modified is really nice....to me.

i agree, and to go a little further, if you decide you are gonna show your car, stock gets boring after awhile seeing the same car over and over and over. its refreshing to see something different (but not to gawdy....like some people view my iroc as being).

but once again it always does go back to personal preference and what you intend for the life of your car....daily driver, or show car..

take your pic..thats what defines us as thirdgen owners...we all have one common interest...

THE LOVE OF A GREAT AUTOMOBILE!!

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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I heard it would throw my speedo off
If you switch from 215/75/15 to 245/50/16 tires your speedo will change about 2 mph at 60 mph. So if you are going 62 mph your speedo will tell you 60 mph.

BTW- Did you repaint the 15'' wheels ajbutowicz? They really look nice. Sweet car man. One more representing the teenagers, im 17.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Red1992V6Rs
If you switch from 215/75/15 to 245/50/16 tires your speedo will change about 2 mph at 60 mph. So if you are going 62 mph your speedo will tell you 60 mph.

BTW- Did you repaint the 15'' wheels ajbutowicz? They really look nice. Sweet car man. One more representing the teenagers, im 17.

Ryan
Nope, in the picture they're same as from the factory. I just took a rag when i was washing it and wiped them off. One of my center caps is missing the emblem though, have to go to the junkyard and get a new one.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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I like the stock wheels too...but...if you do a major appearance modification...like an SS hood, or Cowl hood...and you have the stock 15 or 16 inch wheels....the wheels just kind of look out of place...that's what I really noticed on my car anwyays...
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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i agree, and to go a little further, if you decide you are gonna show your car, stock gets boring after awhile seeing the same car over and over and over.
....I almost agree, except I think it's the big wheels that get boring after seeing them over and over. Look at Overhaulin', look at Pimp my Ride, look at Rides. Look at HorsePower TV, EVERY build has big wheels.

I don't know about shows in your area, but here, my stock appearance is in the minority. I think I mentioned earlier, but I can't tell you how many people comment on how much they like my stock rims. Old hotrodders and coolie kids alike. I've had several younger guys tell me that they would've NEVER left the stock rims on a thirdgen, but can't get over how good they look on mine.

I actually like big rims, it's a perfectly acceptable mod. I just hate seeing coffee stains on a seat somewhere, decent (but not great) paint, and $3000 dollars worth of wheels and tires. Keep in mind Kandied, Graboid, Iroc2nv, you guys are NOT the norm. I fully respect your cars and think they look great. Heck, you can't have airbags and still have stockers!!!! One day I'd like a Impala SS with bags on some 18's. I just chose not to do it to the roc.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Kandied91z

i loved my stock wheels but i couldn't have large brakes. so when i see small 15-16" wheels i think of a slow car and typically keep walking.
Just because i have stock 16" wheels on my car...means i can't go fast...hhhmmm..i think i'm going to have to ponder on that one Jeff.

Tomorrow...high noon...and we'll see.....


later
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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There were 3 reasons I changed my wheels;
1) I want my car to be custom.
2) I really like the look of the wheels I baught
3) My stock wheels were faded badly, so if I was gonna put money into the wheels it was going to be for new ones.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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larry i can't.....damn becool and their inferior "direct fit" bs.

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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Nope, in the picture they're same as from the factory
I know, i was using my wheel swap in that example.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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....a friend and I were just talking about this, and I think I have a better way to describe my opinion.

I have no problem with the big wheels. It's that there are SO MANY places to put the money, all of which help performance, handling, appearance etc., yet it's not the "cool" thing to do, so many chose to put it into wheels. Kinda like the carraige before the horse if you ask me...

...but then again, we each do our own thing, and that's cool!
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Would be a boring *** world if we all had the same opinions and likes/dislikes.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Would be a boring *** world if we all had the same opinions and likes/dislikes.
awww jeez! Another guy with rims and a BONE STOCK car! JK

Mark, your car look simply amazing.....even without the 383/T56!!!!
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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ok, I also don't think people buy rims for their car because it's a "trend." I know I personally am not spending 2 g's on a set of boyd coddingtons because it's the cool thing to do.. I work way to hard for my money. I'm spending the money because wheels can make or break a car. If you have a car with a really nice paint job and sh*tty wheels the car is going to look like sh*t. If you have a car with an ok paint job and NICE wheels the car is going to look pretty good. I also think that wheels completely change the look of a car which is why it makes or breaks them, and nice rims REALLY set off a nice paint job. JMHO.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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yep.....

i know i want to look good when i'm going fast!

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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Right along with Daytona here, the wheels are the best things to change to look individual. Everyone knows Jeff's and CrazyHawaiian's cars by their Boyd wheels, everyone knows FLYNLOW92rs' car because the wheels are freakin huge, and nobody knows my car cause the wheels look like this:
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Count me in on the stock rim factor. Just redid some IROC's for my 83 this last week . . .



I think they fit the body lines of these cars better than anything else out there.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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i love stock wheels, pretty much love stock anything. I personally love the 91-92 Z28 wheels
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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ive got stock rims too, but only cuz i cant afford to buy better ones, i think im gonna paint em black soon since they wont shine, what do yall think?
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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polish them, would look great with that paint...
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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i like the stock rims too, however i will probably go with some fatties/skinnies in the not-so-far future.
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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I think aftermarket rims make these cars stand out. i think that every 3rd gen should have come with nothing smaller than the 16x8 wheels offered in the IROC and base versions. I had the 15x7's and they made the car look dull and silly. I went for the snyper wheels because i didn't need "bling" at the time but I needed a rim that matched the lines of the car, was functional, and looked like they came on the car stock.



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